What are your suprise teams for next year - The Orange Mane

Atlas · 04-25-2005, 03:26 AM

I have two.

In the NFC I think The Cowboys will rebound this year and get to 10 wins and securing a Wild Card.

In the AFC I look for the Bills to win the AFC NORTH. The Patriots might get a wild card this year.... maybe

Hercules Rockefeller · 04-25-2005, 05:18 AM

Any one who plays the Skins

TheDave · 04-25-2005, 06:42 AM

This sounds like those NFL Channel commercials...

DBroncos4life · 04-25-2005, 06:52 AM

Us!!!!!!!

scorpio · 04-25-2005, 07:06 AM

Cowboys and the Cardinals will both make the playoffs this year, just watch.

stoxman · 04-25-2005, 08:15 AM

Cowboys certainly are the sexy pick--how many times you gonna keep Parcells outta the playoffs?!?

AZ drafted pretty well this weekend--they are turning the corner.

I'd say the Bengals could surprise and maybe the Jets add another win or two (CMart is the big issue there).

Beantown Bronco · 04-25-2005, 08:25 AM

The Skins are going to surprise everyone by going 0-16.

Arkie · 04-25-2005, 09:38 AM

Cincinnati is a lot better than most think. They played poorly before they beat us, then they played great for the remainder of the season. Buffalo is another sleeper. These two teams will be a couple of the new AFC powerhouses in 2005. The NFC is still inferior.

NaptownChief · 04-25-2005, 09:41 AM

I think Jacksonville could be a real sleeper...If Leftwich takes the next step with consistency, which I think he will, then they could really move up...They will need Reggie Williams to step up and develop in his second year but overall I think they will have a very good defense and their offense with Taylor, Leftwich, Williams and Jimmy Smith will be pretty good..If Matt Jones becomes a weapon in year 1 then look out.

Sideburn · 04-25-2005, 09:43 AM

My sleepers are

NFC Minnesota. Losing Moss is addition by subtraction for them. If they don't make the playoffs Tice is gone.

AFC I hate to say this, but the fade. They're going to have the top offense in the AFC. Remember when the fade just chucked the ball down the field to Brown and James Jett, yeah deja vu.

sirhcyennek81 · 04-25-2005, 09:54 AM

in the NFC, predicting the Cardinals to win a weak NFC West. Green has made them better. AFC, Bengals will win the afc North. Just look like they are ready to do it.

Drek · 04-25-2005, 10:12 AM

Us.

Everyone is downplaying Denver for next season. I don't see where any of our rivals caused any real seperation in the division. The Chefs and Raiders still can't play D, the Chargers are hoping that Brees wasn't a one year wonder. We've added a lot of athletic corners and have a lot of high potential projects on the DL. So if we get some luck, avoid injuries and have some young players step up we could really take off.

stoxman · 04-25-2005, 10:37 AM

Forgot about MN..yes, they will be a force to be reckoned with.

Traveler · 04-25-2005, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

in the NFC, predicting the Cardinals to win a weak NFC West. Green has made them better. AFC, Bengals will win the afc North. Just look like they are ready to do it.

What he said!

Haroldthebarrel · 04-25-2005, 10:43 AM

Dunno if its a surprise pick, but I currently have Carolina as winning their division.
It wouldnt surprise me if they went to the SB either. They look on paper just as strong as Philly IMO, and their defense should be even better with healthy players, a better secondary and not to say the best DL in football.

In AFC the Bungles look even more improved offensively, and I believe their defense with Lewis as a HC should improve even more. Toughest obstacle is being in division with the Steelers and Ravens.
I agree about the Jaguars to tho.

-Slap- · 04-25-2005, 11:06 AM

Arizona is going to have so much buzz going into the season that they can't qualify as a surprise team. Especially in that crappy division. I was all over them last year, though. They could have snuck into the playoffs if Green wouldn't have flipped out and benched McCown, too.

I think Chicago will field one of the best defenses in the League next season. Nobody has more young talent on the defensive line. Team leader Mike Brown's healthy return from a torn achilles is key to their success.

Carolina is another team that is too good to qualify as a surprise team, but I still think they'll be better than most people expect next season. Injuries destroyed their season in September last season, but Fox kept the team together and they'll rebound in a big way this year.

There's much more potential for advancement in the weak sister NFC. The top teams in the AFC are more established and the overall quality of the conference will make it harder for any upstarts to make waves this season. I would say Houston has the best chance to surprise people. Carr and Andre Johnson need to both step up this year and show they can make plays when opposing defenses are focused on stopping them. The Texans are stuck in a very tough division, though.

Old Dude · 04-25-2005, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by -Slap-

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I think Chicago will field one of the best defenses in the League next season. Nobody has more young talent on the defensive line. Team leader Mike Brown's healthy return from a torn achilles is key to their success.
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On offense, Grossman was playing pretty well before they lost him for the season. I knew his backups were bad, but those guys took "bad" to a whole 'nother level.

Mediator12 · 04-25-2005, 12:32 PM

I seriously think the AFC is going to beat on each other this year. No AFC team will have more than 12 wins IMHO. That means 11-5 or 10-6 could host second round playoff games. DEN going 10-6 yet again may not only get them a home game but maybe two.

Bills have a rookie QB. Bengals are in year two with Palmer. BAL gets an easier schedule this year. Jets are a huge "?". JAX and HOU will probably beat INDY this year. OAK, KC and SD are definitely improved and the AFC west will again beat each other down. NE and PIT are the only Two teams I see being a "LOCK" for the playoffs.

NFC is even in further disarray. PHI, ATL, and MIN look to be locks for the playoffs. ARI, DAL, STL, SEA, and maybe GB are in a next tier. And one of the rest could pull a SD type rise this year, probably CAR.

FADERPROOF · 04-25-2005, 12:47 PM

Cleveland Browns.

-Slap- · 04-25-2005, 01:01 PM

I believe Philly and Carolina will be on one tier in the NFC and damn near everybody else, except San Francisco and Detroit, are going to be pretty even. I'm probably underrating Atlanta, but I thought they were a team that caught a lot of breaks last year. If their luck balances out this season, so will their record.

Sean · 04-25-2005, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by -Slap-

I'm probably underrating Atlanta, but I thought they were a team that caught a lot of breaks last year. If their luck balances out this season, so will their record.

Do you think there will be repercussions in the locker room over the Ron Mexico incident? Are people going to be cool with getting into the same hottub, etc? If nothing else, it has certainly given ammunition to the opponent's fans. I think this year will tell us how mentally strong he is.

yavoon · 04-25-2005, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Solo

Do you think there will be repercussions in the locker room over the Ron Mexico incident? Are people going to be cool with getting into the same hottub, etc? If nothing else, it has certainly given ammunition to the opponent's fans. I think this year will tell us how mentally strong he is.

vick has herpes right? 25% of the adult population has herpes. I wouldn't be surprised if half of athletes have herpes.

Drek · 04-25-2005, 01:18 PM

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I seriously think the AFC is going to beat on each other this year. No AFC team will have more than 12 wins IMHO. That means 11-5 or 10-6 could host second round playoff games. DEN going 10-6 yet again may not only get them a home game but maybe two.

I'm not so sure. I agree with you that the AFC overall is tough this year, its where much of the talent resides, but I don't think the West quite qualifies. Look at our two best teams from last year, the Chargers and us. We got ran off the field by the Colts, while the Chargers got beat by the Jets, a team that barely made it in over Buffalo.

Now many of those teams have made improvements to at least match ours and the Chargers, so where does that leave us? As the AFC whipping boy's conference I'd say.

In the North all four of our division teams will loose out to the Steelers or the Ravens 4 out of 5 times.

In the South we loose out to Indy badly, and Jacksonville is on par with the best the West can offer.

The East will just embarass us, I don't think any of us are a pick to challenge the Pats any time soon, and the Bills and Jets are about on par with the best we can do as well.

We're not the feared division we once where. Put us in the NFC and we trounce teams, sure, but when we face the other premier AFC teams our whole division gets slapped around next year.

Sean · 04-25-2005, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by yavoon

vick has herpes right? 25% of the adult population has herpes. I wouldn't be surprised if half of athletes have herpes.

Well maybe you know more about it than the average football player that doesn't have it. All I'm saying is, I don't know much about it, and it would make me feel uneasy, without knowing if I could be at risk. I'm sure some of the players might feel the same.

yavoon · 04-25-2005, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Solo

Well maybe you know more about it than the average football player that doesn't have it. All I'm saying is, I don't know much about it, and it would make me feel uneasy, without knowing if I could be at risk. I'm sure some of the players might feel the same.

yes being uneducated leads to paranoia, I understand.

04-25-2005, 03:26 AM	#1
Atlas Draft Defense Early&Often Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 18,526	What are your suprise teams for next year I have two. In the NFC I think The Cowboys will rebound this year and get to 10 wins and securing a Wild Card. In the AFC I look for the Bills to win the AFC NORTH. The Patriots might get a wild card this year.... maybe

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Sideburn Thanks for the memories Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,389	My sleepers are NFC Minnesota. Losing Moss is addition by subtraction for them. If they don't make the playoffs Tice is gone. AFC I hate to say this, but the fade. They're going to have the top offense in the AFC. Remember when the fade just chucked the ball down the field to Brown and James Jett, yeah deja vu. __________________ The 2004 Neck Pony Nation / Orangemane Fantasy Football Champion Sideburn's Evil Head Brigade (14-1)

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04-25-2005, 05:18 AM	#2
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04-25-2005, 06:42 AM	#3
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04-25-2005, 07:06 AM	#5
scorpio Cubicle Pimp Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,498	Cowboys and the Cardinals will both make the playoffs this year, just watch.

04-25-2005, 08:15 AM	#6
stoxman "Some" LPGA gals are FINE My Future Wife-She golfs some too! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: St. Louis Posts: 577 Adopt-a-Bronco: BrandonMarshall	Cowboys certainly are the sexy pick--how many times you gonna keep Parcells outta the playoffs?!? AZ drafted pretty well this weekend--they are turning the corner. I'd say the Bengals could surprise and maybe the Jets add another win or two (CMart is the big issue there).

04-25-2005, 08:25 AM	#7
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,042 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	The Skins are going to surprise everyone by going 0-16.

04-25-2005, 09:38 AM	#8
Arkie Ring of Famer Gggggrrrrrr rrrraaaahhh Arrrrhhhn. Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 9,082 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quinton Carter	Cincinnati is a lot better than most think. They played poorly before they beat us, then they played great for the remainder of the season. Buffalo is another sleeper. These two teams will be a couple of the new AFC powerhouses in 2005. The NFC is still inferior.

04-25-2005, 09:41 AM	#9
NaptownChief Donkeys Nightmare Football Pimp Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7,490	I think Jacksonville could be a real sleeper...If Leftwich takes the next step with consistency, which I think he will, then they could really move up...They will need Reggie Williams to step up and develop in his second year but overall I think they will have a very good defense and their offense with Taylor, Leftwich, Williams and Jimmy Smith will be pretty good..If Matt Jones becomes a weapon in year 1 then look out.

04-25-2005, 09:54 AM	#11
sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,674 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	in the NFC, predicting the Cardinals to win a weak NFC West. Green has made them better. AFC, Bengals will win the afc North. Just look like they are ready to do it.

04-25-2005, 10:12 AM	#12
Drek Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,317	Us. Everyone is downplaying Denver for next season. I don't see where any of our rivals caused any real seperation in the division. The Chefs and Raiders still can't play D, the Chargers are hoping that Brees wasn't a one year wonder. We've added a lot of athletic corners and have a lot of high potential projects on the DL. So if we get some luck, avoid injuries and have some young players step up we could really take off.

04-25-2005, 10:37 AM	#13
stoxman "Some" LPGA gals are FINE My Future Wife-She golfs some too! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: St. Louis Posts: 577 Adopt-a-Bronco: BrandonMarshall	Forgot about MN..yes, they will be a force to be reckoned with.

04-25-2005, 10:43 AM	#15
Haroldthebarrel Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 402	Dunno if its a surprise pick, but I currently have Carolina as winning their division. It wouldnt surprise me if they went to the SB either. They look on paper just as strong as Philly IMO, and their defense should be even better with healthy players, a better secondary and not to say the best DL in football. In AFC the Bungles look even more improved offensively, and I believe their defense with Lewis as a HC should improve even more. Toughest obstacle is being in division with the Steelers and Ravens. I agree about the Jaguars to tho.

04-25-2005, 11:06 AM	#16
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	Arizona is going to have so much buzz going into the season that they can't qualify as a surprise team. Especially in that crappy division. I was all over them last year, though. They could have snuck into the playoffs if Green wouldn't have flipped out and benched McCown, too. I think Chicago will field one of the best defenses in the League next season. Nobody has more young talent on the defensive line. Team leader Mike Brown's healthy return from a torn achilles is key to their success. Carolina is another team that is too good to qualify as a surprise team, but I still think they'll be better than most people expect next season. Injuries destroyed their season in September last season, but Fox kept the team together and they'll rebound in a big way this year. There's much more potential for advancement in the weak sister NFC. The top teams in the AFC are more established and the overall quality of the conference will make it harder for any upstarts to make waves this season. I would say Houston has the best chance to surprise people. Carr and Andre Johnson need to both step up this year and show they can make plays when opposing defenses are focused on stopping them. The Texans are stuck in a very tough division, though.

04-25-2005, 12:32 PM	#18
Mediator12 OM analyst REAL Front Seven Bandwagon !!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INDY Posts: 9,701 Adopt-a-Bronco: Malik Jackson	I seriously think the AFC is going to beat on each other this year. No AFC team will have more than 12 wins IMHO. That means 11-5 or 10-6 could host second round playoff games. DEN going 10-6 yet again may not only get them a home game but maybe two. Bills have a rookie QB. Bengals are in year two with Palmer. BAL gets an easier schedule this year. Jets are a huge "?". JAX and HOU will probably beat INDY this year. OAK, KC and SD are definitely improved and the AFC west will again beat each other down. NE and PIT are the only Two teams I see being a "LOCK" for the playoffs. NFC is even in further disarray. PHI, ATL, and MIN look to be locks for the playoffs. ARI, DAL, STL, SEA, and maybe GB are in a next tier. And one of the rest could pull a SD type rise this year, probably CAR.

04-25-2005, 12:47 PM	#19
FADERPROOF Bucknuts Colossus Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Eastlake OH Posts: 17,338	Cleveland Browns.

04-25-2005, 01:01 PM	#20
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	I believe Philly and Carolina will be on one tier in the NFC and damn near everybody else, except San Francisco and Detroit, are going to be pretty even. I'm probably underrating Atlanta, but I thought they were a team that caught a lot of breaks last year. If their luck balances out this season, so will their record.