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Old 04-21-2005, 08:32 PM   #1
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http://www.cbc.ca/story/sports/natio...zzi050418.html



Todd Bertuzzi probably won't face Steve Moore when the reinstatement hearing for the suspended NHL player takes place next week in New York.

* INDEPTH: The Bertuzzi Incident

Todd Bertuzzi won't be in the same room with Steve Moore at his reinstatement hearing next week. (CP File Photo)

CBC News has learned the format of the meeting, which will be held April 26th, is being modified to accommodate the still lingering bitterness over Bertuzzi's attack on Moore in March of last year.

Though Moore says he won't stand in the way of the reinstatement process, he made it clear he does not want to be in Bertuzzi's presence at the hearing. Moore and his Toronto lawyer Tim Danson will likely meet NHL commissioner Gary Bettman privately.

* RELATED: Player bio: Todd Bertuzzi

Moore, a former Colorado Avalanche player, has been unable to skate or exercise since suffering a severe concussion when he was attacked by Bertuzzi during a March 8 contest in Vancouver.

Medical records documenting Moore's health and prognosis will be provided to the commissioner. When he suspended the Canucks forward last year, Bettman said Moore's condition would be a factor in determining when Bertuzzi would be reinstated.

* RELATED: Player bio: Steve Moore

Bertuzzi will be accompanied in New York by his agent Pat Morris, NHLPA legal counsel Ian Pulver and Vancouver Canucks general manager Dave Nonis.

Bertuzzi had hoped he could join Team Canada for the world hockey championship in Austria at the end of this month, but the hearing occurs only four days before Canada's first game in Innsbruck and its 23-man roster was set over the weekend with the final spot being filled by Scott Walker of the Nashville Predators.

Hockey Canada says that under international rules, as many as three players can be added after three tournament games but that has never been done.

Moore has filed a civil suit in Colorado against Bertuzzi, Vancouver team-mate Brad May, Canucks head coach Marc Crawford, former Canucks general manager Brian Burke and the Canucks organization.
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**** Bertuzzi.
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I second the motion.
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Old 04-22-2005, 11:35 PM   #5
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I used to really like him as a player (used to)..............but i third the motion!
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Medical records documenting Moore's health and prognosis will be provided to the commissioner. When he suspended the Canucks forward last year, Bettman said Moore's condition would be a factor in determining when Bertuzzi would be reinstated.

What for? According to Trevor Linden there isn't now or hasn't ever been anything wrong with Moore. Just one vengeful goldbrickin MF.

Why even go through with the charade? Bettman is going to bendover and squeal in ectasy while allowing Bertuzzi to further blacken the eye of the NHL. It's a given. The gutless Player's Association even rolled over on Moore to support Todd. That's what the league wants and that's what we'll get.

No wonder there isn't any hockey being played.
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Anyone remmember how I felt about this?

A refresher - http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthr...215#post251215
I posted that right after the thing happened just over a year ago.

If there is any justice in the world, Bertuzzi and Crawford both would have had hot rods stuck up their ass in addition with their 15-year prison sentances. SAdly, thats not how things work.

Bertuzzi should not be allowed to play hockey in the US again.

When you think about it, the NHL is a business... look at it like an other business - a person assaults a colligue, breaking his neck, causing concussion and ruining his carrer, that person get fired.

The big x-factor in all this was the Bertuzzi said he was going to hurt Moore before he did it. He had two weeks to think about it before he did it, and the fact the Bert never did anything to prevent injury after knocking out Moore shows that there is no possible reason for him to be remoarsefull.

He had two weeks to think about it. And if he didnt want to suffer the consequences, then he shouldn't have done it.

Is it so unreasonable to think that?

Then how come Bertuzzi has a barrage of support to bring him back?

Someone should have told Bertuzzi that felonious assault comes with repercussions.

A little short sided on Bertuzzis part, but when someone makes a decision that effects someones life the way his did, there has to be retribution.

As far as the hearing is concerened, I understand Moores feelings. However, if I were him I would be right there where that ****** couldent even look me in the eyes.

Just what I think I guess.
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You know I was just thinking.

Steve Moore still isnt well. They said that Bertuzzi's reinstatement will be based on Moore's recovery. Even though there wasnt a season last year, Bertuzzi must still be suspended for at least one year, because had there been a season, Moore would not have been able to play it.

I think that means that Bertuzzi shoul be suspended for any lost playing time that might have occured, because this still effects Steve Moores every day life.

Given over a whole year to heal without hockey and Moore still isnt well. That says a lot. Most injuries will heal up in a year.
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Medical records documenting Moore's health and prognosis will be provided to the commissioner. When he suspended the Canucks forward last year, Bettman said Moore's condition would be a factor in determining when Bertuzzi would be reinstated.

What for? According to Trevor Linden there isn't now or hasn't ever been anything wrong with Moore. Just one vengeful goldbrickin MF.

Why even go through with the charade? Bettman is going to bendover and squeal in ectasy while allowing Bertuzzi to further blacken the eye of the NHL. It's a given. The gutless Player's Association even rolled over on Moore to support Todd. That's what the league wants and that's what we'll get.

No wonder there isn't any hockey being played.
**** Trevor Linden! look how well hes represented the players during the CBA, listen trevor please dont talk anymore.
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Anyone remmember how I felt about this?

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Yes, we remember. We all felt the same way.
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Medical records documenting Moore's health and prognosis will be provided to the commissioner. When he suspended the Canucks forward last year, Bettman said Moore's condition would be a factor in determining when Bertuzzi would be reinstated.

What for? According to Trevor Linden there isn't now or hasn't ever been anything wrong with Moore. Just one vengeful goldbrickin MF.

Why even go through with the charade? Bettman is going to bendover and squeal in ectasy while allowing Bertuzzi to further blacken the eye of the NHL. It's a given. The gutless Player's Association even rolled over on Moore to support Todd. That's what the league wants and that's what we'll get.

No wonder there isn't any hockey being played.
And to think, I was going to have some respect for a Ca**** player if Linden in all his glory had saved the season. What a piece of ****. Must be a pre-requisite to be a Canuck to be a ****ty person.
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And to think, I was going to have some respect for a Ca**** player if Linden in all his glory had saved the season. What a piece of ****. Must be a pre-requisite to be a Canuck to be a ****ty person.
Thats why the canucks suck donkey dick. Bertuzzi should be suspended until Moore decides to let him back. otherwise known as forever. realistically, i want bertuzzi to be suspended for at least a year. AT LEAST.
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See, I just don't think his suspension has been that bad. Hell NO ONE is playing right now. He should have to go extra when everyone else gets back. In reality, he only missed the remainder of last season and the 1st round of the playoffs. Big deal. Plus, all the world and international stuff because no one wants him around, but that's his fault. The dip****.

Get comfy, Clod. You SHOULD be relaxing for a good long while. ( I can hope. )
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And to think, I was going to have some respect for a Ca**** player if Linden in all his glory had saved the season. What a piece of ****. Must be a pre-requisite to be a Canuck to be a ****ty person.
The discouraging thing is even Sakic has said the Union supports Bertuzzi returning.

That's where Linden gets his "even his own teammates don't support him" bull****.
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The discouraging thing is even Sakic has said the Union supports Bertuzzi returning.


Yep i wouldnt doubt it bert is good for the pocket book nothing more....

That's where Linden gets his "even his own teammates don't support him" bull****.
Linden has shown he doesnt know squat and like bert i USED to like the guy, and folks its conversations like this that is hurting the game of hockey.You can thank bert for his actions,which need to made an example of but we will see where $ fit into the equation, and the CBA doesnt help one bit for a already fragile hockey following. Bert is stupid and the CBA extremely bad timing if you ask me.
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It's too bad they're being kept apart, maybe if they were there together Bertuzzi might actually be man enough to offer an apology to Moore. Moore has already said that he's received not a single phone call from Bertuzzi or anyone else from the Vancouver Canchokes organization. But yeah, Bertuzzi is really sorry about what happened. I'm sure he'll say it multiple times to Gary Bettman today while having never said it to Moore.

And no, that feigned, scripted sobbing by Bertuzzi at the press conference that kicked off his "I'm the real victim here" campaign doesn't count as any kind of apology. That was nothing more than a PR stunt to try and lessen the suspension that Bettman had yet to drop on him.

It's a shame that he doesn't have Brian Burke with him anymore to remind us all that Bertuzzi is an All-Star and that by his diagnosis Moore could be skating in 4 to 6 weeks (it's been 14 months and counting since Moore last skated in case you're wondering Brian).

He'll be reinstated, of that I'm fairly certain. The NHL will want as many attention getters in place for when they do open for business again.

And he'll get a heroes welcome in his first game back in Vancouver. I'm betting that the standing ovation lasts at least 2 minutes.
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That's where Linden gets his "even his own teammates don't support him" bull****.
Well ****.
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And he'll get a heroes welcome in his first game back in Vancouver. I'm betting that the standing ovation lasts at least 2 minutes.
And their fans wonder why the rest of us think they're classless.
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The hearing is over but no news.

Boy, would I have loved to have been there for that one. The article says that everyone involved had their fair oppurtunity to speak up.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp...61&hubName=nhl
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Bwahahaahahahaha! Check this guy out. He's the Ca**** fan of the month. The Tron guy has a kid!!
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Bwahahaahahahaha! Check this guy out. He's the Ca**** fan of the month. The Tron guy has a kid!!
that ****face. i hate the ca****s. they're douche bags.
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Bwahahaahahahaha! Check this guy out. He's the Ca**** fan of the month. The Tron guy has a kid!!
lmao! ok ok ok i can see being a fan of a team but the nuck shin guards ruined the whole super suit theme.
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4/24/2005

LAWRENCE, Mass. (AP) - Boston Bruins legend Bobby Orr is calling on National Hockey League Commissioner Gary Bettman and players union executive director Bob Goodenow to ''get out of the way'' if they can't solve the impasse that triggered the cancellation of the NHL's season.

In a column written for the Sunday Eagle-Tribune, the 1970s hockey star wrote, ''Our sport is in danger of becoming irrelevant unless both sides immediately put an end to this nonsense.''

Orr said in his column published Sunday that he initially resisted the urge to comment on the labour dispute and resulting shutdown of the NHL's season because he believed the two sides would resolve their differences for the good of the game.

But he said he no longer believes either side was interested in getting a fair deal done.



Owners and players must demand that Bettman and Goodenow meet immediately, and keep meeting until they emerge with either an agreement or a statement that they can't resolve their differences and they are stepping aside, Orr wrote.

Representatives of the owners and the players union have met better than three dozen times since their collective bargaining agreement expired last Sept. 15, the day Bettman declared the lockout that ended the season. The two sides have failed to resolve differences that made the NHL the first major sports league in North America to lose an entire season to a labour dispute.

Orr, 57, still lives in Boston and operates a hockey player sports agency. The married father of two grown sons remains one of the most revered figures in hockey. His No. 4 Bruins jersey was retired by the team in 1979 after a brilliant career cut short by a bad knee.

A panel of experts assembled by The Hockey News voted him one of the game's three greatest players of the 20th century, along with Gordie Howe and Wayne Gretzky.

Orr won the Norris Trophy as the NHL's top defenceman a record eight consecutive times and was the league's most valuable player three times. He remains the only defenceman to win the league scoring championship, a feat he accomplished twice.
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Medical records documenting Moore's health and prognosis will be provided to the commissioner. When he suspended the Canucks forward last year, Bettman said Moore's condition would be a factor in determining when Bertuzzi would be reinstated.

What for? According to Trevor Linden there isn't now or hasn't ever been anything wrong with Moore. Just one vengeful goldbrickin MF.

Why even go through with the charade? Bettman is going to bendover and squeal in ectasy while allowing Bertuzzi to further blacken the eye of the NHL. It's a given. The gutless Player's Association even rolled over on Moore to support Todd. That's what the league wants and that's what we'll get.

No wonder there isn't any hockey being played.
Wasn't it Naslund who made those remarks
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PRAGUE (CP) - Brendan Morrison hopes Todd Bertuzzi is reinstated so his Vancouver Canucks teammate can begin rebuilding his NHL career.

And Morrison gets no arguments from other Team Canada players getting ready to take part in the IIHF world hockey championship.

''I think he should be reinstated,'' Morrison said Tuesday as Canada prepared for Thursday's exhibition game against the Czechs. ''Some people will disagree.''

Bertuzzi was suspended indefinitely for a sucker punch to the head of Moore on March 8, 2004 that left the Colorado Avalanche forward with broken vertebrae and a severe concussion. Moore is still recovering and may never play again.

''It's not to take anything away from Steve Moore,'' said Morrison. ''Obviously, he suffered a lot, but to start the healing process for Todd, the best thing is to reinstate him. That would be a big step toward him being accepted, in my opinion.''

Bertuzzi, the Canucks power forward, faced a hearing Tuesday in New York with NHL commissioner Gary Bettman on his request for reinstatement. The league said at the end of the meeting there was no timetable for its decision.

With the suspension, and after pleading guilty in court to assault causing bodily harm, which drew one year's probation and 80 days of community service, Bertuzzi's fellow NHL players say he should be allowed to play again when the NHL returns from the lockout that shut down the 2004-05 season.

''It would be nice to see it done with, finalized, and for him to carry forth,'' said Team Canada captain Ryan Smyth of the Edmonton Oilers.

Former Canuck Martin Rucinsky, a free agent who will play for the Czech Republic at the worlds, agreed.

''I think he paid his debt,'' Rucinsky said. ''It's unfortunate what happened.

''Nobody wants to see anybody get hurt like that. But (Bertuzzi) is a good hockey player and he belongs on the ice.''

There was speculation earlier this month that Bertuzzi may be named to Team Canada, but he would first need reinstatement. With the tournament about to begin on Saturday, it is unlikely he will be added to the team even if the NHL allows him back into the sport.

Canada must file its 23-man roster on Friday, although players can be added as injury replacements until the start of the medal round.

Bertuzzi has not played a serious game in more than a year.



but to start the healing process for Todd......................WTF kind of stupid homer nuck comment is this? all they care about is the team they could give a rats azz about moore.
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