Hawks Mock V3 (First Round & Denver's 1st day) - The Orange Mane

Darkhawk24 · 04-20-2005, 07:23 AM

Here is my final mock of the year. Tear it apart!

V3 - 4.20.05

1 - SF 49ers, Aaron Rodgers, QB California
2 - MIA Dolphins, Ronnie Brown, RB Auburn
3 - CLE Browns, Braylon Edwards, WR Michigan
4 - CHI Bears, Mike Williams, WR Southern California
5 - TB Bucs, Alex Smith, QB Utah
6 - TEN Titans, Antrel Rolle, CB Miami
7 - MIN Vikings, Shawne Merriman, DE Maryland
8 - ARI Cardinals, Carnell Williams, RB Auburn
9 - WAS Redskins, Adam Jones, CB West Virginia
10 - DET Lions, Derrick Johnson, OLB Texas
11 - DAL Cowboys, DeMarcus Ware, OLB/DE Troy
12 - SD Chargers, Troy Williamson, WR South Carolina
13 - HOU Texans, Alex Barron, OT Florida State
14 - CAR Panthers, Cedric Benson, RB Texas
15 - KC Chiefs, Carlos Rogers, CB Auburn
16 - NO Saints, Thomas Davis, S Georgia
17 - CIN Bengals, Erasmus James, DE Wisconsin
18 - MIN Vikings, Mark Clayton, WR Oklahoma
19 - STL Rams, Jammal Brown, OT Oklahoma
20 - DAL Cowboys, Marcus Spears, DE Louisiana State
21 - JAC Jaguars, David Pollack, DE Georgia
22 - BAL Ravens, Roddy White, WR Alabama-Birmingham
23 - SEA Seahawks, Dan Cody, DE Oklahoma
24 - GB Packers, Travis Johnson, DT Florida State
25 - WAS Redskins, Jason Cambell, QB Auburn
26 - NY Jets, Heath Miller TE Virginia
27 - ATL Falcons, Shaun Cody, DT Southern California
28 - SD Chargers, Khalif Barnes, OT Washington
29 - IND Colts, Darryl Blackstock, OLB Virginia
30 - PIT Steelers, Fabian Washington, CB, Nebraska
31 - PHI Eagles, Matt Jones, TE/WE, Arkansas
32 - NE Patriots, Channing Crowder, ILB Florida

Denver's
2nd Round #56 David Baas, OG Michigan
3rd Round #76 Corey Webster, CB LSU
3rd Round #97 Vincent Jackson, WR Northern Colorado
3rd Round #101 David Greene, QB Georgia

bloodsunday · 04-20-2005, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkhawk24

2nd Round #56 David Baas, OG Michigan
3rd Round #76 Corey Webster, CB LSU
3rd Round #97 Vincent Jackson, WR Northern Colorado
3rd Round #101 David Greene, QB Georgia

I would do cart wheels (naked) down the street if this came to pass.

Two criticisms:
1) I think you are being too optimistic about the availability of Baas, Webster and Jackson. We'd be lucky if one of those three is available at 56, let alone 76.
2) I'd rather have LeFlors or McPherson then Greene.

Darkhawk24 · 04-20-2005, 07:41 AM

I just went off a value board that seemed pretty acurate for the Broncos. Rumors have been that Baas is falling into the mid to late 2nd round. Why? I don't know.

I did think Webster was a little undervalued until I did my first round and realized how many CB's were still left on the board.

Greene was there because I thought Mcpherson would be gone.

But it's harder to do a team draft with out doing the full round.

bloodsunday · 04-20-2005, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkhawk24

I just went off a value board that seemed pretty acurate for the Broncos.

Well I think in terms of value you are pretty accurate about what should be available. You hear a lot of rumors at this time of year and its tough to know, but I am hearing that Jackson could go early in the second round. If a run on QBs happens, I wouldn't doubt if McPherson is gone as early as round 2. That's why waiting until #56 is going to be so painful, IMO. Of course, someone always falls...

Darkhawk24 · 04-20-2005, 07:51 AM

Pretty much. I think there are some decent WR's they can look at in the 2nd-3rd. If Jackson does get snatched up.

What do you think of the first round? I did find it a lot less enjoyable with the Broncos now out of the first round.

bloodsunday · 04-20-2005, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkhawk24

What do you think of the first round?

It looks accurate to me according to other Mocks and rumors that I have seen. Of course, there will be suprises. Here are some thoughts:
1) If Smith slides past San Fran, Tampa could trade up
2) I can't see Benson falling that far without someone trading up to get him. If Edwards is off the board, I think Chicago goes Benson.
3) The Jets could be looking corner (Justin Miller?)
4) I have serious doubts about Crowder making round 1. New England is tough to figure though.

Darkhawk24 · 04-20-2005, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodsunday

It looks accurate to me according to other Mocks and rumors that I have seen. Of course, there will be suprises. Here are some thoughts:
1) If Smith slides past San Fran, Tampa could trade up
2) I can't see Benson falling that far without someone trading up to get him. If Edwards is off the board, I think Chicago goes Benson.
3) The Jets could be looking corner (Justin Miller?)
4) I have serious doubts about Crowder making round 1. New England is tough to figure though.

Good stuff. I never do trades in my mocks. They are too hard to predict. I figured Tampa would go up to the #2 spot to get Smith knowing how hard up they are for him.

Benson has slipped to the #3 rated RB on most boards. I considered having him go to Houston but how do you pass up Barron when Carr has been needing OL help for awhile.

I'm pretty sure a few trades will happen and screw all this up but I like to see how close I get each year. As good as I think they look on paper they are usually pretty far off!

Billy Clyde Puckett · 04-20-2005, 06:07 PM

I wouldn't complain about that draft. I like Greene as the perfect BU QB, but not as a starter. He is smart, accurate and plays under control.

Webster was great in 2003, but tailed off in 2004. He will likely be available, but there will be several CBs to choose from at that slot.

Everything I have heard about Jackson lately is that he is falling because of his weak route running and blocking technique while som other WRs are on the fast rise. If that is true, grab him in that slot.

I really like Baas, but I have heard that he is telling teams he wants to play Center. Broncs need a guy they can start at OG for the next 10 years.

Mediator12 · 04-20-2005, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Guy

I wouldn't complain about that draft. I like Greene as the perfect BU QB, but not as a starter. He is smart, accurate and plays under control.

Webster was great in 2003, but tailed off in 2004. He will likely be available, but there will be several CBs to choose from at that slot.

Everything I have heard about Jackson lately is that he is falling because of his weak route running and blocking technique while som other WRs are on the fast rise. If that is true, grab him in that slot.

I really like Baas, but I have heard that he is telling teams he wants to play Center. Broncs need a guy they can start at OG for the next 10 years.

Easy enough to fix.

2. V. Jackson (Shanahan will reach to get a WR)
3a. Corey Webster
3b. Evan Mathis
3c. Antonio Perkins

labronco · 04-20-2005, 11:40 PM

My Saturday Wish List:

2. Mike Patterson, DT, USC or David Bass, G/C, Michigan
(by trading up in the second round with our own second and Washington's third round pick)
3a: Craig Bragg, WR, UCLA
3b: Frank Gore, RB, USC

Ratboy · 04-20-2005, 11:47 PM

With our 56th pick, We're selecting Ronald Bartell Jr or Stanford Routt. (my inner sources says so)

and inner sources are my physic powers.

Ballhawk · 04-21-2005, 12:19 AM

My wish list:

56 Baas -hope he falls to us
76 Mathis- yes a 2nd guard, giving us two studs next year when Hamilton moves to C
97 Perkins - Dime guy and returner
101 Colquitt - Final touch to vastly improved ST play

This may not be exciting but it would solidify the Oline and ST, and hopefully we can sign another DB vet after June 1st.

DBs Depth would be Champ, Walls, Middlebrooks, FA vet, Perkins, Shoate or Roc.

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04-20-2005, 07:23 AM	#1
Darkhawk24 Draft Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,552	Hawks Mock V3 (First Round & Denver's 1st day) Here is my final mock of the year. Tear it apart! V3 - 4.20.05 1 - SF 49ers, Aaron Rodgers, QB California 2 - MIA Dolphins, Ronnie Brown, RB Auburn 3 - CLE Browns, Braylon Edwards, WR Michigan 4 - CHI Bears, Mike Williams, WR Southern California 5 - TB Bucs, Alex Smith, QB Utah 6 - TEN Titans, Antrel Rolle, CB Miami 7 - MIN Vikings, Shawne Merriman, DE Maryland 8 - ARI Cardinals, Carnell Williams, RB Auburn 9 - WAS Redskins, Adam Jones, CB West Virginia 10 - DET Lions, Derrick Johnson, OLB Texas 11 - DAL Cowboys, DeMarcus Ware, OLB/DE Troy 12 - SD Chargers, Troy Williamson, WR South Carolina 13 - HOU Texans, Alex Barron, OT Florida State 14 - CAR Panthers, Cedric Benson, RB Texas 15 - KC Chiefs, Carlos Rogers, CB Auburn 16 - NO Saints, Thomas Davis, S Georgia 17 - CIN Bengals, Erasmus James, DE Wisconsin 18 - MIN Vikings, Mark Clayton, WR Oklahoma 19 - STL Rams, Jammal Brown, OT Oklahoma 20 - DAL Cowboys, Marcus Spears, DE Louisiana State 21 - JAC Jaguars, David Pollack, DE Georgia 22 - BAL Ravens, Roddy White, WR Alabama-Birmingham 23 - SEA Seahawks, Dan Cody, DE Oklahoma 24 - GB Packers, Travis Johnson, DT Florida State 25 - WAS Redskins, Jason Cambell, QB Auburn 26 - NY Jets, Heath Miller TE Virginia 27 - ATL Falcons, Shaun Cody, DT Southern California 28 - SD Chargers, Khalif Barnes, OT Washington 29 - IND Colts, Darryl Blackstock, OLB Virginia 30 - PIT Steelers, Fabian Washington, CB, Nebraska 31 - PHI Eagles, Matt Jones, TE/WE, Arkansas 32 - NE Patriots, Channing Crowder, ILB Florida Denver's 2nd Round #56 David Baas, OG Michigan 3rd Round #76 Corey Webster, CB LSU 3rd Round #97 Vincent Jackson, WR Northern Colorado 3rd Round #101 David Greene, QB Georgia

04-20-2005, 07:41 AM	#3
Darkhawk24 Draft Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,552	I just went off a value board that seemed pretty acurate for the Broncos. Rumors have been that Baas is falling into the mid to late 2nd round. Why? I don't know. I did think Webster was a little undervalued until I did my first round and realized how many CB's were still left on the board. Greene was there because I thought Mcpherson would be gone. But it's harder to do a team draft with out doing the full round.

04-20-2005, 07:51 AM	#5
Darkhawk24 Draft Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,552	Pretty much. I think there are some decent WR's they can look at in the 2nd-3rd. If Jackson does get snatched up. What do you think of the first round? I did find it a lot less enjoyable with the Broncos now out of the first round.

04-20-2005, 06:07 PM	#8
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	I wouldn't complain about that draft. I like Greene as the perfect BU QB, but not as a starter. He is smart, accurate and plays under control. Webster was great in 2003, but tailed off in 2004. He will likely be available, but there will be several CBs to choose from at that slot. Everything I have heard about Jackson lately is that he is falling because of his weak route running and blocking technique while som other WRs are on the fast rise. If that is true, grab him in that slot. I really like Baas, but I have heard that he is telling teams he wants to play Center. Broncs need a guy they can start at OG for the next 10 years.

04-20-2005, 11:40 PM	#10
labronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,015	My Saturday Wish List: 2. Mike Patterson, DT, USC or David Bass, G/C, Michigan (by trading up in the second round with our own second and Washington's third round pick) 3a: Craig Bragg, WR, UCLA 3b: Frank Gore, RB, USC Last edited by labronco; 04-20-2005 at 11:42 PM..

04-20-2005, 11:47 PM	#11
Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,274	With our 56th pick, We're selecting Ronald Bartell Jr or Stanford Routt. (my inner sources says so) and inner sources are my physic powers.

04-21-2005, 12:19 AM	#12
Ballhawk Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,132	My wish list: 56 Baas -hope he falls to us 76 Mathis- yes a 2nd guard, giving us two studs next year when Hamilton moves to C 97 Perkins - Dime guy and returner 101 Colquitt - Final touch to vastly improved ST play This may not be exciting but it would solidify the Oline and ST, and hopefully we can sign another DB vet after June 1st. DBs Depth would be Champ, Walls, Middlebrooks, FA vet, Perkins, Shoate or Roc.