Chiefs acquire DE in trade with Tenn. - The Orange Mane

KansasBronco · 04-05-2005, 12:56 PM

KANSAS CITY, Missouri (Ticker) - The Kansas City Chiefs acquired restricted free agent defensive end Carlos Hall from the Tennessee Titans on Tuesday for an undisclosed draft pick in 2005.

Hall, 26, started 31 of 45 games in three seasons with the Titans. Last season, he recorded 41 tackles, 2 1/2 sacks and one fumble recovery.

In Kansas City, he will likely compete with Jared Allen for the starting right end spot.

A seventh-round pick out of Arkansas in 2002, Hall has 120 tackles, 13 sacks and seven pass deflections.

This guy is a good player. I don't know if he can beat out Jared Allen, but he gives them depth. I would assume they had to give up at least a 6th round pick for him or better. If they give up a 2nd for Surtain, they won't be doing much on draft day.

labronco · 04-05-2005, 01:46 PM

there's an awful a lot of chief's interest on this board. don't they have their own site?

Sarcastro · 04-05-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by labronco

there's an awful a lot of chief's interest on this board. don't they have their own site?

Taco hacked Chiefsplanet and now every link there redirects the user to the Orangemane.

RaiderH8r · 04-05-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by labronco

there's an awful a lot of chief's interest on this board. don't they have their own site?

The do have their own site. Problem is that the site is inundated with dumb ass, sister f!ckin chef fans. So they come here for intelligent conversation.

bendog · 04-05-2005, 02:13 PM

I thought Zach and Bob's our b**** were used worse than Kennison over there?

Sarcastro · 04-05-2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

The do have their own site. Problem is that the site is inundated with dumb ass, sister f!ckin chef fans. So they come here for intelligent conversation.

The Orangemane is the virtual hub for sister f!ckin discussion.

Bob's your Information Minister · 04-05-2005, 04:05 PM

I won't homer up this one. He's nothing special, though he could be in a couple years. Solid signing for us, we need depth at DE.

Crushaholic · 04-05-2005, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

I won't homer up this one. He's nothing special, though he could be in a couple years. Solid signing for us, we need depth at DE.

Probably the best you could say about this guy is that Goonter has already worked with him in Tennessee...

Bob's your Information Minister · 04-05-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic

Probably the best you could say about this guy is that Goonter has already worked with him in Tennessee...

There is that, too.

Tombstone RJ · 04-05-2005, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

I won't homer up this one. He's nothing special, though he could be in a couple years. Solid signing for us, we need depth at DE.

Translation: "I'm buttering this up, but I'm not admitting I'm buttering this up."

TheNextStep · 04-05-2005, 04:50 PM

I think it is a good signing for the Chiefs, personally. From what I understand, though, he's a bit one-dimensional and streaky.

Maximus · 04-05-2005, 04:52 PM

Strictly an edge rusher with 13 career sacks and 120 tackles. Weak against the run.... Situational Player.

Raider Bill · 04-05-2005, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximus

Strictly an edge rusher with 13 career sacks and 120 tackles. Weak against the run.... Situational Player.

And I'd still rather have him than Derrick Burgess... come on dude that was a nice signing by the Chiefs.

Maximus · 04-05-2005, 05:28 PM

He's in the same class as Burress. A situational player with a whole bunch of potential. If Burress doesn't have the history of Injuries he's hands down better. His performance in the playoffs alone have me convinced until he proves otherwise.

Carlos Hall... Convince me... I'm open... what has he done?

Raider Bill · 04-05-2005, 05:41 PM

Twice as many career sacks to begin with...

I live in Philly area, I see the Eagles play regularly. Derrick Burgess is garbage. The signing reeks of Larry Brown and Desmond Howard. He made a couple of nice open field tackles on Vick with Kearse (and an entire defensive gameplan) bringing the heat to flush him in that direction. Monte Kifflin wrote the book on Vick, chase him to his right and he can't do ****. All Burgess had to do was stand there and wait for him.

Add in the fact that he's made of glass, and Hall is infinitely superior.

SoCalBronco · 04-05-2005, 05:43 PM

i wouldnt worry about that too much Bill. I read the contract wasnt all that it was cracked up to be so far as the numbers are concerned.

Raider Bill · 04-05-2005, 05:54 PM

The better question is what has Derrick Burgess done besides take up space on the trainers table?

DBroncos4life · 04-05-2005, 05:55 PM

I like Hall. I think this was a good pick up for the queefs.

Raider Bill · 04-05-2005, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

i wouldnt worry about that too much Bill. I read the contract wasnt all that it was cracked up to be so far as the numbers are concerned.

I know that but when your as tight up against the cap as we are, I'll take the younger guy playing on a rookie deal with no injury history and superior production over Derrick Burgess and his rickety wheels.

They are both 260 pound speed rushers piss poor against the run. All things being equal give me Hall. For a 5th

Yup.

TheNextStep · 04-05-2005, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by njbil

I know that but when your as tight up against the cap as we are

Snap out of it, bill!

Raider Bill · 04-05-2005, 06:03 PM

Unless Woodson is dealt or locked up long term, we are up against the cap. Anyone making any appreciable amount of money has been cut or restructured already to fit Moss and Burgess in.

That still doesn't change the fact that Hall is the superior player.

TheReverend · 04-05-2005, 06:04 PM

So guys I think Im outta here... Im going to go join a Chiefs and Raiders board and bother them.

Raider Bill · 04-05-2005, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximus

H His performance in the playoffs alone have me convinced until he proves otherwise.

?

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If you're going off the strength of that Atlanta game, you've really been duped. Their starting RT had a high ankle sprain and the backup played most of the game.

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Originally Posted by kffl.com

Weiner Takes Snaps at RT - from www.KFFL.com
Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:33:40 -0800

Atlanta Falcons starting LT Todd Weiner (ankle) spent much of the NFC Championship Game rotating at right tackle with OT Steve Herndon, according to AtlantaFalcons.com. Weiner was nursing an ankle injury suffered in the team's second-round playoff game against the St. Louis Rams.

Burgess is "fools gold".

minibronco · 04-05-2005, 06:35 PM

I would think this lessens the Chief's interest in Pryce, verdad?

Maximus · 04-05-2005, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by njbil

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If you're going off the strength of that Atlanta game, you've really been duped. Their starting RT had a high ankle sprain and the backup played most of the game.

Burgess is "fools gold".

Let's talk about the atlanta game for a minute. It's not all about him sacking Michael Vick... He never got out of position when the Falcons tried to run to his side. He kept containment most of our guys are inconsistent when it comes to that. Brayton was getting good at it but, who knows if he hasn't regressed from the 3-4 experiment that went bad. The second thing is his ability to get away from offensive linemen and make tackles.

Sure he's injured but look at the year that he played every game.... 6 sacks 25 solo tackles 7 assists. Sure that was 2001 but, if you want to compare him that is the only full year he played

above you stated that you think that they're just about the same if not for the injuries.

04-05-2005, 12:56 PM	#1
KansasBronco Pro Bowler Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 622	Chiefs acquire DE in trade with Tenn. KANSAS CITY, Missouri (Ticker) - The Kansas City Chiefs acquired restricted free agent defensive end Carlos Hall from the Tennessee Titans on Tuesday for an undisclosed draft pick in 2005. Hall, 26, started 31 of 45 games in three seasons with the Titans. Last season, he recorded 41 tackles, 2 1/2 sacks and one fumble recovery. In Kansas City, he will likely compete with Jared Allen for the starting right end spot. A seventh-round pick out of Arkansas in 2002, Hall has 120 tackles, 13 sacks and seven pass deflections. This guy is a good player. I don't know if he can beat out Jared Allen, but he gives them depth. I would assume they had to give up at least a 6th round pick for him or better. If they give up a 2nd for Surtain, they won't be doing much on draft day.

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04-05-2005, 01:46 PM	#2
labronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,015	there's an awful a lot of chief's interest on this board. don't they have their own site?

04-05-2005, 02:13 PM	#5
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	I thought Zach and Bob's our b**** were used worse than Kennison over there?

04-05-2005, 04:05 PM	#7
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	I won't homer up this one. He's nothing special, though he could be in a couple years. Solid signing for us, we need depth at DE.

04-05-2005, 04:50 PM	#11
TheNextStep The Enemy Within Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,814	I think it is a good signing for the Chiefs, personally. From what I understand, though, he's a bit one-dimensional and streaky.

04-05-2005, 04:52 PM	#12
Maximus The Razor! Public Enemy #1 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Western, NY Posts: 5,207 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	Strictly an edge rusher with 13 career sacks and 120 tackles. Weak against the run.... Situational Player.

04-05-2005, 05:28 PM	#14
Maximus The Razor! Public Enemy #1 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Western, NY Posts: 5,207 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	He's in the same class as Burress. A situational player with a whole bunch of potential. If Burress doesn't have the history of Injuries he's hands down better. His performance in the playoffs alone have me convinced until he proves otherwise. Carlos Hall... Convince me... I'm open... what has he done?

04-05-2005, 05:41 PM	#15
Raider Bill ........ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Southern New Joisey Posts: 4,197	Twice as many career sacks to begin with... I live in Philly area, I see the Eagles play regularly. Derrick Burgess is garbage. The signing reeks of Larry Brown and Desmond Howard. He made a couple of nice open field tackles on Vick with Kearse (and an entire defensive gameplan) bringing the heat to flush him in that direction. Monte Kifflin wrote the book on Vick, chase him to his right and he can't do ****. All Burgess had to do was stand there and wait for him. Add in the fact that he's made of glass, and Hall is infinitely superior.

04-05-2005, 05:54 PM	#17
Raider Bill ........ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Southern New Joisey Posts: 4,197	The better question is what has Derrick Burgess done besides take up space on the trainers table?

04-05-2005, 05:55 PM	#18
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,568	I like Hall. I think this was a good pick up for the queefs.

04-05-2005, 06:03 PM	#21
Raider Bill ........ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Southern New Joisey Posts: 4,197	Unless Woodson is dealt or locked up long term, we are up against the cap. Anyone making any appreciable amount of money has been cut or restructured already to fit Moss and Burgess in. That still doesn't change the fact that Hall is the superior player.

04-05-2005, 06:04 PM	#22
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,017 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	So guys I think Im outta here... Im going to go join a Chiefs and Raiders board and bother them.

04-05-2005, 06:35 PM	#24
minibronco KFFL Writer/Fantasy Scout Defense: 11 Strong Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The OC Posts: 2,474	I would think this lessens the Chief's interest in Pryce, verdad?