Can Anyone Tell Me Why Barnett Is Stiil CUs Coach? - The Orange Mane

Bronco_Beerslug · 03-31-2005, 06:54 PM

Why hasn't he been fired yet? What has he got on the school that they will not do what must be done?

Questions surround cash flow at university
The Internal Revenue Service is investigating two summer football camps run by University of Colorado coach Gary Barnett.

Both Barnett and his attorney acknowledged the investigation Wednesday, but said they were not sure what tax issues the IRS is looking into.

At the same time, the IRS has contacted the university seeking additional documents, said CU spokeswoman Pauline Hale. CU attorneys wouldn't say what kind of documents the IRS wants, she said.

"We feel that we are not at liberty to discuss details related to an ongoing investigation conducted by a federal agency," Hale said.

Barnett's lawyer, John Rodman, described the investigation as "broad" and said he thinks it's related to questions raised in media reports during the past several months. Those reports have focused on allegations of questionable accounting and lax oversight of camp expenditures.

Barnett said Wednesday, "We are eagerly cooperating with them because we're just as anxious for the truth to get out -- probably more anxious for the truth to get out -- than anybody. So we're cooperating completely."

Barnett said he turned over "everything they wanted" to IRS investigators roughly two weeks ago. "There was a list of documents," he said, "1099s, (camp) registration forms, tax returns, everything."

IRS officials "did not come in with anything in particular," Barnett said. "They just came in to look at it, and we turned everything over to them."

Jean Carl, an IRS spokeswoman in Denver, declined comment on the matter.

"Disclosure laws prohibit me from confirming or denying any investigation of any taxpayer," Carl said.

The camps operate each summer in two sessions for football players between the ages of 8 and 13. The youngsters get to practice at CU and learn from coaches on Barnett's staff. They can stay in dorms on campus or commute from home.

Although the camps are detailed on a CU Web site, Barnett and university officials say he operates them as a business independent of the university.

The IRS review comes as the state auditor's office continues a wide-ranging probe of spending at the football camps, as well as the university as a whole and its fundraising arm, the CU Foundation.

It also comes on the heels of a report by a state grand jury that criticized how the football camps tracked money, alleging it was loosely guarded and amounted to a "slush fund" for football coaches.

The grand jury was formed last spring to look into allegations that CU used sex and booze to lure football recruits. The panel was assisted by a report from a fraud examiner hired by state prosecutors.

The fraud examiner, Daniel Predovich, raised numerous questions about spending and tax issues at Barnett's two camps.

Barnett has repeatedly said the grand jury and Predovich reports were off-base. Football camp money was controlled, he said, and he can account for all expenditures.

Barnett also has said that he's confident the state audit won't reveal any wrongdoing related to the football camps. As for the IRS review, Barnett said Wednesday he had "no concerns" that investigators would discover anything troublesome.

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Breck Bronc · 03-31-2005, 07:08 PM

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Can Anyone Tell Me Why Barnett Is Stiil CUs Coach?

Because Barnett was great as the principal in The Breakfast Club and may duplicate that performance in the near future with the Buffs. And because he told the truth about Dr. Dave's daughter.

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-31-2005, 07:21 PM

There's that whole innocent until proven guilty thing we have in this country, that could be a reason why he hasn't been fired.

Nuggets4 · 03-31-2005, 07:23 PM

Forget the lawsuits and all of that -- he's a crappy coach! Why haven't we fired him for that?!?

SoCalBronco · 03-31-2005, 07:38 PM

they got to the Big 12 title game last year and won a bowl game, thats why. In a sense it insulates him unless the story keeps growing.

Tredici · 03-31-2005, 09:03 PM

Barnett has repeatedly said the grand jury and Predovich reports were off-base. Football camp money was controlled, he said, and he can account for all expenditures.

Barnett also has said that he's confident the state audit won't reveal any wrongdoing related to the football camps. As for the IRS review, Barnett said Wednesday he had "no concerns" that investigators would discover anything troublesome.

This has already been instigated by two different investigations. One being the Colorado Attorney General. So pay attention to what Barnett said. There is no reason to fire him. Not a single allegation against him has been proven or prosecuted. Doesn't anyone find that kind of amazing? The media frenzy over CU is absolutely stupid. --And nice and sensational, but so far baseless. Not that anyone notices.

Probably no one will report the lawsuit against the school has been dismissed by a Federal Judge regarding the supposed recruiting violations and rape charges. Think it will get big play on ESPN or The Today Show?

Not one charge filed anywhere.

Hmmmmm.

Bronco_Beerslug · 03-31-2005, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

There's that whole innocent until proven guilty thing we have in this country, that could be a reason why he hasn't been fired.

That doesn't always apply in his profession. He is bad news for the program. With all the happenings going on at CU (he's part of it) I'd imagine recruiting is suffering. It must be a something to do with his contract or the school is broke or something.

Tredici · 03-31-2005, 09:07 PM

Recruiting is suffering because of the conditions imposed on the school. But they did fine this past season. Keeping a lot of local kids in state. Most of those parents did thorough research and had no problem letting their sons sign up.

Pezman · 03-31-2005, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tredici

Recruiting is suffering because of the conditions imposed on the school. But they did fine this past season. Keeping a lot of local kids in state. Most of those parents did thorough research and had no problem letting their sons sign up.

Tredici, has 9 News figured out a way to sensationalize this story even more? Get your dirty laundry at 10 on 9news... Its all about the ratings. Apologize? Them? Never...

SoCalBronco · 03-31-2005, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tredici

Recruiting is suffering because of the conditions imposed on the school. But they did fine this past season. Keeping a lot of local kids in state. Most of those parents did thorough research and had no problem letting their sons sign up.

Yes, one of the aspects that has been unfair to CU is that they have had to cutback on various recruiting things if for no other reason than to placate the media while virtually every other div 1-a still gets to do pretty much whatever they want on recruiting weekends in the fall for the kids who visit. That said, i am sure glad we were able to pry Calais Campbell out of Colorado.

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-31-2005, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

That said, i am sure glad we were able to pry Calais Campbell out of Colorado.

There was no chance to keep Calais in-state the second he realized he'd be getting out-of-state interest.

SoCalBronco · 03-31-2005, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

There was no chance to keep Calais in-state the second he realized he'd be getting out-of-state interest.

He is tearing it up. Getting some reps now with the first team defensive line as a true sophomore. They are calling him the black Ted Hendricks. Just needs to add a little more weight to his 6'7'' frame. What a freak. He will be a terror off the edge. You guys need to do a better job of keeping in state studs like LenDale White, Jeff Byers and Campbell etc

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-31-2005, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

You guys need to do a better job of keeping in state studs like LenDale White, Jeff Byers and Campbell etc

There was 0 chance to keep White in state, it just wasn't happening
CU's chance with Campbell disappeared once he saw his schollie offers come in.
Byers was a true FUBAR. IIRC, he would have been a Buff in Feb or March if he had had an offer, but they wanted some more tape. By the time they extended an offer, everyone else had come calling.

This year should be fun to see how things are different one year out of the scandal, should be a pretty good group of lineman coming out too.

Guarnero's committed, but continues to get letters and LSU offered him last week.
Houston wants out of the state since he's not a Colo kid, but his mom wants him in-state which still gives the Buffs a chance. He's either an A&M or UT fan, and already has an offer from UT.
Butch Lewis just was offered by Georgia, and is probably Miami's once they offer.
Anest is rated as the best C in the country by Emfinger.

TexanBob · 03-31-2005, 11:32 PM

It could be worse. They could name Ward Churchill as his replacement.

Gary must have a hell of a buyout clause, that's all I can guess.

GaryBarnett · 04-01-2005, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

There's that whole innocent until proven guilty thing we have in this country, that could be a reason why he hasn't been fired.

Exactly......everyone was throwing mud at the guy saying he did this, did that......but where is the proof? I feel bad for the Gary and CU. Their reps were tarnished by a not so bright Hoffman and a I can't stand the football program DA. Gary will be the last one to laugh! Give em hell Barnett!

NaptownChief · 04-01-2005, 08:20 AM

After Rick Neuwesal got $4.5 million from UDub I'm guessing schools will be a lot more careful when it comes to firing coaches for wrong doing...That being said, Barnett has shamed that University more than any coach has shamed a University in recent memory...Only other coaches that come to mind that have come close is Clem Haskins at Minn and Dave Bliss at Baylor.

Saulbadguy · 04-01-2005, 08:22 AM

Heh. I can't wait till we steamroll you Bluffies this year...maybe that will end the Gary Barnett era.

Master___Pain · 04-01-2005, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GaryBarnett

Exactly......everyone was throwing mud at the guy saying he did this, did that......but where is the proof? I feel bad for the Gary and CU. Their reps were tarnished by a not so bright Hoffman and a I can't stand the football program DA. Gary will be the last one to laugh! Give em hell Barnett!

The civil Law suit against the University was dissmissed yesterday. The judge ruled on a Motion for Summary Judgement. I think this thing is on it's last legs.

GaryBarnett · 04-01-2005, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

That doesn't always apply in his profession. He is bad news for the program. With all the happenings going on at CU (he's part of it) I'd imagine recruiting is suffering. It must be a something to do with his contract or the school is broke or something.

How is he bad news for the Program? Who would you rather have, Barnett or Nueweasel? I would take Gary everyday of the week. I bet you Neuweasel would have jumped ship a long time ago....but Barnett is determined to see this thru. At least he is not a backstabber......he says it to you straight. Sometimes he shouldn't say anything at all. But he is a guy that doesn't beat around the bush. And actually everyone in the country said CU did better than they all thought with recruiting this last year. I am sick and tired of people kicking Barnett and the CU program while they are down. I hope Gary is writing down names.....so when the dust settles, he will know who he can trust now.

bendog · 04-01-2005, 08:25 AM

I wonder who put out sex for the CU recruits. One year Notre Dame had alumni wives putting it out.

NaptownChief · 04-01-2005, 08:26 AM

Does Barnett have the CU kids juicing like he did the Northwestern kids?

GaryBarnett · 04-01-2005, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Heh. I can't wait till we steamroll you Bluffies this year...maybe that will end the Gary Barnett era.

I doubt that will happen, Saul. But you can keep on dreamin

You lost your best RB that school has seen in some time.......can't decide on a QB. And you are gonna steamroll us? Give me a break

Master___Pain · 04-01-2005, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief

After Rick Neuwesal got $4.5 million from UDub I'm guessing schools will be a lot more careful when it comes to firing coaches for wrong doing...That being said, Barnett has shamed that University more than any coach has shamed a University in recent memory...Only other coaches that come to mind that have come close is Clem Haskins at Minn and Dave Bliss at Baylor.

Please tell me, a Cu alum, how he has shamed my university?

GaryBarnett · 04-01-2005, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bendog

I wonder who put out sex for the CU recruits. One year Notre Dame had alumni wives putting it out.

Supposedly they hired escorts. The owner of one of the escort agencies came out and said that he has senty girls to CU's recruiting parties. But what bothers me....is no one else bothered to listen to what else he had to say. He also said that he sent girls to CSU and UNC recruiting parties. Where are all the naysayers now?

Bronco_Beerslug · 04-01-2005, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GaryBarnett

How is he bad news for the Program? Who would you rather have, Barnett or Nueweasel? I would take Gary everyday of the week. I bet you Neuweasel would have jumped ship a long time ago....but Barnett is determined to see this thru. At least he is not a backstabber......he says it to you straight. Sometimes he shouldn't say anything at all. But he is a guy that doesn't beat around the bush. And actually everyone in the country said CU did better than they all thought with recruiting this last year. I am sick and tired of people kicking Barnett and the CU program while they are down. I hope Gary is writing down names.....so when the dust settles, he will know who he can trust now.

Uh, Neuheisel jumped ship already. Barnett's teams suck!!!!!! He has no concept of defense. The football program has lost all credibilty with him as coach after all the sh*t that has went down with him in the middle of it.

03-31-2005, 06:54 PM	#1
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	Can Anyone Tell Me Why Barnett Is Stiil CUs Coach? Why hasn't he been fired yet? What has he got on the school that they will not do what must be done? Questions surround cash flow at university The Internal Revenue Service is investigating two summer football camps run by University of Colorado coach Gary Barnett. Both Barnett and his attorney acknowledged the investigation Wednesday, but said they were not sure what tax issues the IRS is looking into. At the same time, the IRS has contacted the university seeking additional documents, said CU spokeswoman Pauline Hale. CU attorneys wouldn't say what kind of documents the IRS wants, she said. "We feel that we are not at liberty to discuss details related to an ongoing investigation conducted by a federal agency," Hale said. Barnett's lawyer, John Rodman, described the investigation as "broad" and said he thinks it's related to questions raised in media reports during the past several months. Those reports have focused on allegations of questionable accounting and lax oversight of camp expenditures. Barnett said Wednesday, "We are eagerly cooperating with them because we're just as anxious for the truth to get out -- probably more anxious for the truth to get out -- than anybody. So we're cooperating completely." Barnett said he turned over "everything they wanted" to IRS investigators roughly two weeks ago. "There was a list of documents," he said, "1099s, (camp) registration forms, tax returns, everything." IRS officials "did not come in with anything in particular," Barnett said. "They just came in to look at it, and we turned everything over to them." Jean Carl, an IRS spokeswoman in Denver, declined comment on the matter. "Disclosure laws prohibit me from confirming or denying any investigation of any taxpayer," Carl said. The camps operate each summer in two sessions for football players between the ages of 8 and 13. The youngsters get to practice at CU and learn from coaches on Barnett's staff. They can stay in dorms on campus or commute from home. Although the camps are detailed on a CU Web site, Barnett and university officials say he operates them as a business independent of the university. The IRS review comes as the state auditor's office continues a wide-ranging probe of spending at the football camps, as well as the university as a whole and its fundraising arm, the CU Foundation. It also comes on the heels of a report by a state grand jury that criticized how the football camps tracked money, alleging it was loosely guarded and amounted to a "slush fund" for football coaches. The grand jury was formed last spring to look into allegations that CU used sex and booze to lure football recruits. The panel was assisted by a report from a fraud examiner hired by state prosecutors. The fraud examiner, Daniel Predovich, raised numerous questions about spending and tax issues at Barnett's two camps. Barnett has repeatedly said the grand jury and Predovich reports were off-base. Football camp money was controlled, he said, and he can account for all expenditures. Barnett also has said that he's confident the state audit won't reveal any wrongdoing related to the football camps. As for the IRS review, Barnett said Wednesday he had "no concerns" that investigators would discover anything troublesome. (CONTINUED) http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2026856

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03-31-2005, 07:21 PM	#3
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	There's that whole innocent until proven guilty thing we have in this country, that could be a reason why he hasn't been fired.

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Nuggets4 Requisite Nugs Die-Hard Buffaloes, Buffaloes, Go C-U! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 4,360 Adopt-a-Bronco: Allen Iverson	Forget the lawsuits and all of that -- he's a crappy coach! Why haven't we fired him for that?!?

03-31-2005, 09:03 PM	#6
Tredici Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10,010	Barnett has repeatedly said the grand jury and Predovich reports were off-base. Football camp money was controlled, he said, and he can account for all expenditures. Barnett also has said that he's confident the state audit won't reveal any wrongdoing related to the football camps. As for the IRS review, Barnett said Wednesday he had "no concerns" that investigators would discover anything troublesome. This has already been instigated by two different investigations. One being the Colorado Attorney General. So pay attention to what Barnett said. There is no reason to fire him. Not a single allegation against him has been proven or prosecuted. Doesn't anyone find that kind of amazing? The media frenzy over CU is absolutely stupid. --And nice and sensational, but so far baseless. Not that anyone notices. Probably no one will report the lawsuit against the school has been dismissed by a Federal Judge regarding the supposed recruiting violations and rape charges. Think it will get big play on ESPN or The Today Show? Not one charge filed anywhere. Hmmmmm.

03-31-2005, 09:07 PM	#8
Tredici Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10,010	Recruiting is suffering because of the conditions imposed on the school. But they did fine this past season. Keeping a lot of local kids in state. Most of those parents did thorough research and had no problem letting their sons sign up.

03-31-2005, 11:32 PM	#14
TexanBob Don't Argue With Me You Know I'm Right Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,023 Adopt-a-Bronco: Darris Nash	It could be worse. They could name Ward Churchill as his replacement. Gary must have a hell of a buyout clause, that's all I can guess.

04-01-2005, 08:20 AM	#16
NaptownChief Donkeys Nightmare Football Pimp Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7,490	After Rick Neuwesal got $4.5 million from UDub I'm guessing schools will be a lot more careful when it comes to firing coaches for wrong doing...That being said, Barnett has shamed that University more than any coach has shamed a University in recent memory...Only other coaches that come to mind that have come close is Clem Haskins at Minn and Dave Bliss at Baylor.

04-01-2005, 08:22 AM	#17
Saulbadguy Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,923	Heh. I can't wait till we steamroll you Bluffies this year...maybe that will end the Gary Barnett era.

04-01-2005, 08:25 AM	#20
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	I wonder who put out sex for the CU recruits. One year Notre Dame had alumni wives putting it out.

04-01-2005, 08:26 AM	#21
NaptownChief Donkeys Nightmare Football Pimp Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7,490	Does Barnett have the CU kids juicing like he did the Northwestern kids?