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Old 03-28-2005, 11:07 PM   #1
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Default Schiavo Protester a Registered Sex Offender

(Gasp!)

B-b-b-but, they're such good Christians...

I...don't...understand (sniffle.)

Heh.

Surprise, surprise. NOT.

Stories on Schiavo Protestor Miss One Point: He's a Registered Sex Offender

NEW YORK As protests outside the hospice housing Terri Schiavo in her final days mounted last week, numerous newspaper reports, many based on an Associated Press account, mentioned or quoted 10-year-old Joshua Heldreth and/or his father, Scott Heldreth. Josh was one of several youngsters arrested for crossing police lines in Pinellas Park, Fla., in an effort to take water to Schiavo.

None of the stories revealed that Scott Heldreth, a religious activist and anti-abortion crusader, is a registered sex offender in Florida-- until The Charlotte Observer mentioned it on Sunday.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1000856102
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Old 03-29-2005, 12:19 AM   #2
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There's our smoking gun. We can't possibly be righteous now. A guy we neglected to screen showed up. Congrats, LABF. You've managed to tar us forever. You ****ing idiot.

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Old 03-29-2005, 01:18 AM   #3
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There's our smoking gun. We can't possibly be righteous now. A guy we neglected to screen showed up. Congrats, LABF. You've managed to tar us forever. You ****ing idiot.
Oh my.

It seems this Scott Heldreth story has struck some sort of nerve with our resident cursing Christian.

He's worked himself into a state of advanced Jesus-based rage.

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A guy we neglected to screen showed up.
Yep - it seems like one of your fellow religious hypocrites makes his presence felt with each passing day...

Christian radio host arrested for child porn

Agents with the FBI's Violent Crimes Task Force arrested a Christian radio station personality as part of a child pornography investigation.

Bureau agents began investigating Chris Ruleman, 40, a midday host for WFFI, 94FM, earlier this week after receiving information that he possessed child pornography.

He remained in the Nashville jail pending an appearance before a U.S. magistrate judge on Friday. WFFI general manager Mike Miller said Ruleman will not be on air while the investigation is ongoing.

http://www.wsmv.com/global/story.asp?s=3096477&

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Congrats, LABF. You've managed to tar us forever.
You seem to be doing just fine without any help from me.
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Old 03-29-2005, 09:19 AM   #5
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Oh my.

It seems this Scott Heldreth story has struck some sort of nerve with our resident cursing Christian.

He's worked himself into a state of advanced Jesus-based rage.

You're incapable of provoking rage. Contempt, certainly.
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Old 03-29-2005, 10:30 AM   #6
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Since I'm a "bleeding heart liberal" I'm going to make a quick statement on 2 things that sort of deal with this topic. I'm all for this guy turning his life around, unfortunately he's chosen a retarded path of religious idiocy that in the end due to his actions and influences cause more evil than his sex offenses...(could).

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#1.) No one should have to register as a "sex offender". It's preposterous and a double whammy after you've already served your time or completed your conviction. It brands you for life and can range from nudity in public to serial sex slayings. So you're a felon, now a sex offender...we should have a drug offender's law...traffic "violators" registration...just so we can "assume" things about someone we don't know when we meet them. REE-DICK-U-LISS.

#2.) Felon's should be allowed to vote. I can't for the life me think of how this law passed. Stripped of your right in this country to speak your political view, another double whammy on top of your jail/probation sentence. Obviously concocted by a Republican way of thinking, because most "convicted felons" are drug offenders under retarded drug laws who after the "system" has screwed them, they vow to make a difference...but wait! They can't! And 99.9% of their votes would go to the Democratic/Civil Liberty party at the time. Truly awesome scheme by the "conservatives" I must give them that...yet, no one seems to see how ridiculous it really is.

And that's all. I don't know why you'd make another thread trying to "prove" christians are hypocrites...all you need to do is pick up your nearest bible and READ the damned thing to figure that one out.
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Since I'm a "bleeding heart liberal" I'm going to make a quick statement on 2 things that sort of deal with this topic. I'm all for this guy turning his life around, unfortunately he's chosen a retarded path of religious idiocy that in the end due to his actions and influences cause more evil than his sex offenses...(could).


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#1.) No one should have to register as a "sex offender". It's preposterous and a double whammy after you've already served your time or completed your conviction. It brands you for life and can range from nudity in public to serial sex slayings. So you're a felon, now a sex offender...we should have a drug offender's law...traffic "violators" registration...just so we can "assume" things about someone we don't know when we meet them. REE-DICK-U-LISS.
What line of crap is that ......Sex offenders should have to register , specialy Pedophiles ............ you should assume things , keep your kids safe .....

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#2.) Felon's should be allowed to vote. I can't for the life me think of how this law passed. Stripped of your right in this country to speak your political view, another double whammy on top of your jail/probation sentence. Obviously concocted by a Republican way of thinking, because most "convicted felons" are drug offenders under retarded drug laws who after the "system" has screwed them, they vow to make a difference...but wait! They can't! And 99.9% of their votes would go to the Democratic/Civil Liberty party at the time. Truly awesome scheme by the "conservatives" I must give them that...yet, no one seems to see how ridiculous it really is.

And that's all. I don't know why you'd make another thread trying to "prove" christians are hypocrites...all you need to do is pick up your nearest bible and READ the damned thing to figure that one out.
Felons should be allowed to do alot of things , But after their Probation is up , I dont see the harm in them voting .......
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What line of crap is that ......Sex offenders should have to register , specialy Pedophiles ............ you should assume things , keep your kids safe .....


Felons should be allowed to do alot of things , But after their Probation is up , I dont see the harm in them voting .......
You're under this assumption that all "sex offenders" are usually pedophiles..which they are NOT. Pedophilia is a disease..because obviously the normal being is not interested in sexual relations with a child. Most wish to seek help, but can't control themselves. It's not crap, it's called protection of your civil liberties which far outweigh you "knowing" a convicted "sex offender" is on your block. If he's going to abduct your kid in the middle of the night..he's going to abduct your kid in the middle of the night without you knowing about it...sex offender or not. Don't you see? This label just diminishes others who HAVE changed their lives around for the better after they did something silly to be labeled a "sex offender". People like you just spread your bigotry and ignorance when you see this and "automatically" assume some dude who flashed a group of schoolgirls when he was 19 is a sex crazed maniac although he'd never ever think of doing anything as immature as that again.

But, we do agree on the felon priciple. There's alot of crazyass laws these days that are "felonies" that should never, ever be...But then again..these laws are only as good as the people who make them.
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You're under this assumption that all "sex offenders" are usually pedophiles..
No I am not , Sex offense are not about Sex, but control . think about it , Sex crimes , are much deeper then you think ..........


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it's called protection of your civil liberties which far outweigh you "knowing" a convicted "sex offender" is on your block. If he's going to abduct your kid in the middle of the night..he's going to abduct your kid in the middle of the night without you knowing about it...sex offender or not.
you lose your cival liberties , when you start pissing on other peoples cival liberties ........ and the news is always full of Kids being molested and Killed ..... tune into the real world .......

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Don't you see? This label just diminishes others who HAVE changed their lives around for the better after they did something silly to be labeled a "sex offender". People like you just spread your bigotry and ignorance when you see this and "automatically" assume some dude who flashed a group of schoolgirls when he was 19 is a sex crazed maniac although he'd never ever think of doing anything as immature as that again.
Dont you see ? people do things to earn labels , a felon , Saint , etc ..... Dont blame society's ills on labels ..........

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Original Topic; Who the hell cares? It's hard to point out the flaws of a particular group when you have Micheal Moore on your side.

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You're under this assumption that all "sex offenders" are usually pedophiles..which they are NOT. Pedophilia is a disease..because obviously the normal being is not interested in sexual relations with a child. Most wish to seek help, but can't control themselves. It's not crap, it's called protection of your civil liberties which far outweigh you "knowing" a convicted "sex offender" is on your block. If he's going to abduct your kid in the middle of the night..he's going to abduct your kid in the middle of the night without you knowing about it...sex offender or not. Don't you see? This label just diminishes others who HAVE changed their lives around for the better after they did something silly to be labeled a "sex offender". People like you just spread your bigotry and ignorance when you see this and "automatically" assume some dude who flashed a group of schoolgirls when he was 19 is a sex crazed maniac although he'd never ever think of doing anything as immature as that again.
Pediophilia is a crime. I don't really care if the criminal 'wants help but won't reach out' or anything else. After all, I'm sure that the school shooter in Minnesota had some kind of mental disease, but that didn't make him any less of a piss poor human being.

Registering of true sex offenders is a good idea. The simple fact is that the rates of reoccurence among sex offenders is rather high. It sucks, but you should really avoid breaking the law in the first place.

I do agree that the sex offenders lists have been taken to far. If a 21 year old has sex with a 17 year old they are branded sex offenders for life. A stripper (in Texas anyways) who gets caught performing 'public lewd acts' (lap dance) is registered as a sex offender. Being on that list carries a stigma that will follow someone around their whole lives. Attempting to use the registry as a means to enforce a moral agenda is both sick and wrong. Truly serious offenders (serial rapists and pedophiles) need to be monitored, but expanding the scope of those lists is just a sick thing to do really.
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I've got a better idea than registering serious sex offenders (this would exclude the lap dance girl and enforced on a case by case basis).....dead. Again, keep lowering the recidivism and that makes tracking them a whole lot easier. You could even put their crime on their headstone.

Here Lies Prickly Pete
He liked to touch little boys between the knees
One time was once too much
So we shot him up with some lethal stuff

19??-20??

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Stories on Schiavo Protestor Miss One Point: He's a Registered Sex Offender

NEW YORK As protests outside the hospice housing Terri Schiavo in her final days mounted last week, numerous newspaper reports, many based on an Associated Press account, mentioned or quoted 10-year-old Joshua Heldreth and/or his father, Scott Heldreth. Josh was one of several youngsters arrested for crossing police lines in Pinellas Park, Fla., in an effort to take water to Schiavo.

None of the stories revealed that Scott Heldreth, a religious activist and anti-abortion crusader, is a registered sex offender in Florida-- until The Charlotte Observer mentioned it on Sunday.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1000856102

How is this even relevant to anything? I see your graphic about "Haterade," but note the irony that it's your hate that drives your politics... this thread being living proof...
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If he finds anything against christians or republicans he posts it no matter how unrelated it is or how pathetic it makes him look.
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Well we are all skirting the real issue here ....... We all know it is the Homosexuals fault Terri is in this state ... If it wernt for those Damn Homosexuals running around Demanding a cure for Aids, we could have used the Money to research Brian Damage ...........
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How is this even relevant to anything?
I was just stunned by the irony and hypocrisy of it all.

Two guys in one week - one a "Christian" activist who made the national news and the other a "Christian" radio host - both outed as molesters/pedophiles.

The stories are "relevant" because it's people like these two men who have Bush and the GOP Congress in their back pockets (as evidenced by the Schiavo saga) and who want to determine the political future of America.

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I see your graphic about "Haterade," but note the irony that it's your hate that drives your politics... this thread being living proof...
Sorry if you can't distinguish between alarm, outrage, etc., and hatred.

IMO, anyone who isn't either angry or outraged about what Bush and the rest of the lunatic right-wing fringe are doing to our country is either asleep or under anesthesia.
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