Courtney makes his decision!! Finally - The Orange Mane

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-28-2005, 03:01 PM

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Brown Opts to Go to Denver

By Nunyo Demasio
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, March 28, 2005; 5:32 PM

Courtney Brown, the talented yet injury-prone defensive end, today accepted the Denver Broncos's offer, concluding a protracted courtship involving several suitors -- including the Washington Redskins -- according to sources familiar with the situation.

The 6-foot-4, 290-pounder kept the Redskins and Broncos in suspense through a process that started March 14, by twice postponing his decision -- initially the previous weekend and then Thursday. As recently as Friday, Brown remained torn between the teams, sources said, after final telephone pitches from Denver Coach Mike Shanahan and Redskins Coach Joe Gibbs.

Terms of the contract were undisclosed, but sources described it as a multiyear deal with incentives heavily tied to Brown's ability to stay healthy.

Gibbs, also the team president, wasn't available to comment today.

Brown's decision was the latest free-agent setback -- albeit a relatively minor one -- for Washington, which failed to re-sign linebacker Antonio Pierce (New York Giants) and cornerback Fred Smoot (Minnesota Vikings). One of Washington's goals in the offseason was landing a pass-rush specialist. Last year, the Redskins were tied for fourth in the NFC with 40 sacks, yet most came on blitzes by linebackers and defensive ends. (Only 10 sacks were collected by the club's regular defensive ends, led by Ron Warner's 3.5.)

Brown -- the top overall pick in the 2000 draft -- was released by the Cleveland Browns on March 14 after declining to take a substantial pay cut. Brown drew heavy interest despite having missed 33 games during his five-year NFL career, finishing the past four seasons on the injured reserve.

The Broncos and Redskins -- the first teams Brown visited -- were considered the front-runners, although the Jacksonville Jaguars also made an offer. The Seattle Seahawks, the last team Brown visited, balked at a contract offer.

The Broncos were so certain about landing Brown that they informed other NFL team officials and publicly expressed confidence. Conversely, Gibbs expressed skepticism about landing Brown, noting his visits with other teams after Washington's offer.

Denver held Brown's first visit March 15. But the day before -- only hours after Brown's release -- Gibbs and Greg Blache, Washington's de facto defensive line coach, flew to Cleveland for dinner with Brown and wife, Candace. On March 17, Brown visited Redskins Park before bucking a free-agency trend by departing without accepting Washington's offer.

The weekend of March 19, Brown was expected to choose between the Broncos and Redskins and to cancel his other visits. Instead, Brown visited the Jacksonville Jaguars (March 21) and Seattle Seahawks (last Tuesday). Then after telling teams that he would make a decision by Thursday, Brown informed them he needed more time.

He rebuffed the Redskins despite having ties to the club. Star linebacker LaVar Arrington played at Penn State with Brown from 1996 to 1999 and the two remain close. Washington recently signed Pierson Prioleau, a reserve safety and stellar special-teams player, who is Brown's second cousin. And Foge Fazio, a Redskins defensive consultant, was Cleveland's defensive coordinator in 2001 and 2002. Yet another link was that Brown's agent, Marvin Demoff, also represents Gregg Williams -- assistant head coach, defense.

Beyond the Broncos's offer, their sole tie was apparently enough: Defensive line coach Andre Patterson, who held the same position in Cleveland and formed a rapport with Brown.

Redskins Note: The Redskins announced today the re-signing of kicker Jeff Chandler.

Rascal · 03-28-2005, 03:03 PM

Well at least the contract is incentive laden largely based on him staying healthy.

Now go talk to Steve and hit the weights and lose some weight...I would prefer him be about 270-280.

Master___Pain · 03-28-2005, 03:04 PM

Time will tell on this deal. I am not really excited. Call it tempered enthusiasm.

Hotrod · 03-28-2005, 03:04 PM

Welcome aboard gimpy

illbroncsfn · 03-28-2005, 03:06 PM

about time!!!!!!!!!!!

Rascal · 03-28-2005, 03:06 PM

now who do we get?

clint7 · 03-28-2005, 03:07 PM

Good Lord...what a drama/saga this turned out to be. It's about f'ing time, pal!

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-28-2005, 03:08 PM

Still think Douglas is a must for the LDE position opposite of Courtney

TheManeMan · 03-28-2005, 03:08 PM

Welcome to Denver Courtney...get injured, and I'll kill you...

bronco militia · 03-28-2005, 03:08 PM

clint7 · 03-28-2005, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

Still think Douglas is a must for the LDE position opposite of Courtney

Agreed. I'm surprised Douglas hasn't signed with someone yet. Let's hope now that Brown has finally decided to give an answer, the Denver brass quickly gives Douglas a call.

Rascal · 03-28-2005, 03:11 PM

Even if Pryce stays we need Douglas in case Brown can't stay healthy.

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-28-2005, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clint7

Agreed. I'm surprised Douglas hasn't signed with someone yet. Let's hope now that Brown has finally decided to give an answer, the Denver brass quickly gives Douglas a call.

Williamson did say the other day that the available cap room was for 2 of: Brown, Douglas, Jasper, and Tony Williams along with Coleman and Elliss.

Rascal · 03-28-2005, 03:13 PM

So know who do you like between Douglas, Jasper and Tony Williams?

And who do you like between the Ellis's and Coleman?

As Herc mentioned we should be albe to get one of the first group and one of the second group based on our current cap limit. I'm beginning to think that Pryce is going to stick around...but do you think he will play DT again or want to play DE?

TheManeMan · 03-28-2005, 03:14 PM

Ellis Johnson is a must re-sign, IMO...

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-28-2005, 03:16 PM

It's funny to read some comments on ExtremeSkins now.

Apparently the Skins are a better team, Lavar will the one who going to the playoffs not Courtney, and the Skins are up and coming (with no offense besides CP).

clint7 · 03-28-2005, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

Williamson did say the other day that the available cap room was for 2 of: Brown, Douglas, Jasper, and Tony Williams along with Coleman and Elliss.

2 of: Brown, Douglas, Jasper, and Tony Williams?
or
2 of: Brown, Douglas, Jasper, and Tony Williams AND Coleman & Elliss?

I guess, what I'm asking is 2 of 4 possible players or 2 of 6 possible players?

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-28-2005, 03:17 PM

It wasn't Ellis Johnson, it was Luther Elliss. EJ hasn't been mentioned for awhile.

chanesaw · 03-28-2005, 03:17 PM

Does this mean Ellis Johnson isn't coming back?

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-28-2005, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clint7

2 of: Brown, Douglas, Jasper, and Tony Williams?
or
2 of: Brown, Douglas, Jasper, and Tony Williams AND Coleman & Elliss?

I guess, what I'm asking is 2 of 4 possible players or 2 of 6 possible players?

2 of 4 with MC and LE.

bronco militia · 03-28-2005, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

It's funny to read some comments on ExtremeSkins now.

Apparently the Skins are a better team, Lavar will the one who going to the playoffs not Courtney, and the Skins are up and coming (with no offense besides CP).

you never know...after all, the Skins play in the lame ass NFC...

watermock · 03-28-2005, 03:21 PM

We better sign another DL just to open the door for this cripple. We better put a performance clause into his contract to see if he can even walk to his bank to deposit his signing bonus. If we plopped down more than 4 million SB I'm going to be livid.

clint7 · 03-28-2005, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

2 of 4 with MC and LE.

Thanks, man.

I guess I'd rather have Douglas than Jasper, I really don't want Williams...I mean that would be TWO guys with some serious health issues signed to help the line.

As for Ellis Johnson...last I heard he's asking for more cash than Denver is offering him.

illbroncsfn · 03-28-2005, 03:25 PM

ESPN and KFFL arent' reporting the signing as of yet, but of course Herc posted the article- thanks.

I'm in the Ellis Johnson fan club as well, would rather have him back than any of the other warm bodies.

broncos love · 03-28-2005, 03:25 PM

Thank god he finally made his decision and Im very exicted about the pickup or it just might be my orange glasses getting in the way. GO BRONCOS IN 2005

03-28-2005, 03:01 PM	#1
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Courtney makes his decision!! Finally http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Mar28.html (registration required) Brown Opts to Go to Denver By Nunyo Demasio Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, March 28, 2005; 5:32 PM Courtney Brown, the talented yet injury-prone defensive end, today accepted the Denver Broncos's offer, concluding a protracted courtship involving several suitors -- including the Washington Redskins -- according to sources familiar with the situation. The 6-foot-4, 290-pounder kept the Redskins and Broncos in suspense through a process that started March 14, by twice postponing his decision -- initially the previous weekend and then Thursday. As recently as Friday, Brown remained torn between the teams, sources said, after final telephone pitches from Denver Coach Mike Shanahan and Redskins Coach Joe Gibbs. Terms of the contract were undisclosed, but sources described it as a multiyear deal with incentives heavily tied to Brown's ability to stay healthy. Gibbs, also the team president, wasn't available to comment today. Brown's decision was the latest free-agent setback -- albeit a relatively minor one -- for Washington, which failed to re-sign linebacker Antonio Pierce (New York Giants) and cornerback Fred Smoot (Minnesota Vikings). One of Washington's goals in the offseason was landing a pass-rush specialist. Last year, the Redskins were tied for fourth in the NFC with 40 sacks, yet most came on blitzes by linebackers and defensive ends. (Only 10 sacks were collected by the club's regular defensive ends, led by Ron Warner's 3.5.) Brown -- the top overall pick in the 2000 draft -- was released by the Cleveland Browns on March 14 after declining to take a substantial pay cut. Brown drew heavy interest despite having missed 33 games during his five-year NFL career, finishing the past four seasons on the injured reserve. The Broncos and Redskins -- the first teams Brown visited -- were considered the front-runners, although the Jacksonville Jaguars also made an offer. The Seattle Seahawks, the last team Brown visited, balked at a contract offer. The Broncos were so certain about landing Brown that they informed other NFL team officials and publicly expressed confidence. Conversely, Gibbs expressed skepticism about landing Brown, noting his visits with other teams after Washington's offer. Denver held Brown's first visit March 15. But the day before -- only hours after Brown's release -- Gibbs and Greg Blache, Washington's de facto defensive line coach, flew to Cleveland for dinner with Brown and wife, Candace. On March 17, Brown visited Redskins Park before bucking a free-agency trend by departing without accepting Washington's offer. The weekend of March 19, Brown was expected to choose between the Broncos and Redskins and to cancel his other visits. Instead, Brown visited the Jacksonville Jaguars (March 21) and Seattle Seahawks (last Tuesday). Then after telling teams that he would make a decision by Thursday, Brown informed them he needed more time. He rebuffed the Redskins despite having ties to the club. Star linebacker LaVar Arrington played at Penn State with Brown from 1996 to 1999 and the two remain close. Washington recently signed Pierson Prioleau, a reserve safety and stellar special-teams player, who is Brown's second cousin. And Foge Fazio, a Redskins defensive consultant, was Cleveland's defensive coordinator in 2001 and 2002. Yet another link was that Brown's agent, Marvin Demoff, also represents Gregg Williams -- assistant head coach, defense. Beyond the Broncos's offer, their sole tie was apparently enough: Defensive line coach Andre Patterson, who held the same position in Cleveland and formed a rapport with Brown. Redskins Note: The Redskins announced today the re-signing of kicker Jeff Chandler. Last edited by Hercules Rockefeller; 03-28-2005 at 03:04 PM..

03-28-2005, 03:21 PM	#22
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	We better sign another DL just to open the door for this cripple. We better put a performance clause into his contract to see if he can even walk to his bank to deposit his signing bonus. If we plopped down more than 4 million SB I'm going to be livid. Last edited by watermock; 03-28-2005 at 03:29 PM..

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03-28-2005, 03:03 PM	#2
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	Well at least the contract is incentive laden largely based on him staying healthy. Now go talk to Steve and hit the weights and lose some weight...I would prefer him be about 270-280.

03-28-2005, 03:04 PM	#3
Master___Pain Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Springs Posts: 4,605 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rock Hoover	Time will tell on this deal. I am not really excited. Call it tempered enthusiasm.

03-28-2005, 03:04 PM	#4
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	Welcome aboard gimpy

03-28-2005, 03:06 PM	#5
illbroncsfn Ring of Famer adopt a bronco- Barrel Man's Barrel Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Land o' Lincoln Posts: 3,993	about time!!!!!!!!!!!

03-28-2005, 03:07 PM	#7
clint7 Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 3,046	Good Lord...what a drama/saga this turned out to be. It's about f'ing time, pal!

03-28-2005, 03:08 PM	#8
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Still think Douglas is a must for the LDE position opposite of Courtney

03-28-2005, 03:08 PM	#9
TheManeMan Ring of Famer DPOY Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 5,659	Welcome to Denver Courtney...get injured, and I'll kill you...

03-28-2005, 03:08 PM	#10
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,591	ugh

03-28-2005, 03:11 PM	#12
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	Even if Pryce stays we need Douglas in case Brown can't stay healthy.

03-28-2005, 03:13 PM	#14
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	So know who do you like between Douglas, Jasper and Tony Williams? And who do you like between the Ellis's and Coleman? As Herc mentioned we should be albe to get one of the first group and one of the second group based on our current cap limit. I'm beginning to think that Pryce is going to stick around...but do you think he will play DT again or want to play DE?

03-28-2005, 03:14 PM	#15
TheManeMan Ring of Famer DPOY Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 5,659	Ellis Johnson is a must re-sign, IMO...

03-28-2005, 03:16 PM	#16
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	It's funny to read some comments on ExtremeSkins now. Apparently the Skins are a better team, Lavar will the one who going to the playoffs not Courtney, and the Skins are up and coming (with no offense besides CP).

03-28-2005, 03:17 PM	#18
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	It wasn't Ellis Johnson, it was Luther Elliss. EJ hasn't been mentioned for awhile.

03-28-2005, 03:17 PM	#19
chanesaw Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,174 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis Dumervil	Does this mean Ellis Johnson isn't coming back?

03-28-2005, 03:25 PM	#24
illbroncsfn Ring of Famer adopt a bronco- Barrel Man's Barrel Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Land o' Lincoln Posts: 3,993	ESPN and KFFL arent' reporting the signing as of yet, but of course Herc posted the article- thanks. I'm in the Ellis Johnson fan club as well, would rather have him back than any of the other warm bodies.

03-28-2005, 03:25 PM	#25
broncos love THE MAN Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 822	Thank god he finally made his decision and Im very exicted about the pickup or it just might be my orange glasses getting in the way. GO BRONCOS IN 2005