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minibronco · 03-26-2005, 11:14 AM

Whole lot of shake-up going on with Chiefs
By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star

Down at his offseason home in Florida, where he's been insulated from the icy winds of change rattling other Chiefs defenders, Lional Dalton admitted to a certain lack of knowledge about current events.

"I really don't know what's been going on up there," said Dalton, a starting defensive tackle. "My wife keeps up with it more than I do. Last I heard, we signed a safety. What's his name? Samari Rolle?"

Obviously, some introductions will be in order Monday when the Chiefs begin the conditioning phase of their offseason program. Dalton will shake hands not with Rolle, a free-agent cornerback who signed instead with Baltimore, but new starting safety Sammy Knight.

Dalton also will meet another recent acquisition, linebacker Kendrell Bell — and perhaps soon a new cornerback, maybe Ty Law or Patrick Surtain.

That would make three new defensive starters, for those who are counting. Every one of the Chiefs' defenders is counting — even Dalton, who was arguably their best lineman last year and should feel relatively secure.

Dalton may not know their names yet, but their presence has him looking over his shoulder, too.

"You've always got to worry about your job," Dalton said. "That's one thing I've learned. As long as you've got somebody pushing you, you've got to get the job done. If you don't, they'll find somebody to take your job. I thought I had nothing to worry about when I was with Denver. I had the big contract, and I was released the next year.

"It definitely picks up the competition level when there's a guy behind you who can also be a starter. It helps you pick up your game. There's nothing wrong with competition."

That was the idea behind the signing of Knight, an eight-year starter with New Orleans and Miami. He was handed the strong safety job, leaving incumbent starters Greg Wesley and Jerome Woods to compete at free safety.

The Chiefs haven't been specific publicly about their plans for Bell, but he will probably wind up as their starting middle linebacker. That would displace Mike Maslowski and Kawika Mitchell, the starting middle linebackers from the last two seasons.

Law or Surtain would take a starting job from William Bartee and Dexter McCleon, who shared a position last year opposite Eric Warfield.

The moves also won't directly affect Jared Allen, a starting defensive end who last year as a rookie led the Chiefs in sacks. But they also got his attention.

"We had two great safeties, in my opinion, and they brought another one in," Allen said. "That just shows that everybody is going to have to earn his spot."

Even offensive players have taken notice. Fullback Tony Richardson, after making the Pro Bowl the last two seasons as part of one of the NFL's highest-scoring offenses, has a secure roster spot. The Chiefs have nobody capable of taking his job even if they wanted to replace him.

But Richardson was at the Truman Sports Complex on Friday getting a head start on his workout program.

"You can't get comfortable in our business," Richardson said. "Whenever you do, that's when you set yourself up for failure.

"It eventually comes to an end for everybody. There's probably only three ways you're going to leave this business. One is to retire on your own terms and have this big farewell party. It doesn't happen that way for too many guys. Another is to get hurt. The last one is when they bring somebody in to take your job. That's the way it happens for a lot of guys."

The first seven weeks of the offseason program are reserved for conditioning. The Chiefs aren't scheduled for their first practice until the middle of May.

But the first organized activity of the year, which includes a team barbecue Monday, is always an occasion.

"Regardless of whether you had a good year or a bad year, you always look forward to getting back to work," Richardson said. "The kind of season we had last year, it kind of lives with you, kind of haunts you. Coach (Dick) Vermeil always tells you to try to get away from football during this time and try to get it off your mind. But you still replay a lot of things that happened last year in your mind."

The Chiefs were expecting most of their players. They were not expecting tight end Tony Gonzalez, wide receiver Johnnie Morton and running back Priest Holmes to be regular participants until practice begins.

Those players expressed to the Chiefs an interest in conditioning at home — Gonzalez and Morton in California and Holmes in Texas.

delany · 03-26-2005, 11:21 AM

No REAL offense Mini....but this just might show your stupidity more than anyone else...

watermock · 03-26-2005, 11:42 AM

Shhh...It's Dick 4 Meals nap time...must be verwy verwy qwiet....

Hey, if they aren't going to workout till May, they should go ahead and give Ty Law 10 million, that's about the time he gets out of his walking cast....

minibronco · 03-26-2005, 11:45 AM

they don't even know their names!

delany · 03-26-2005, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by minibronco

they don't even know their names!

True.....but YOU don't know how to read other threads.....

Now we have two WONDERFUL, MAGICAL threads on a completely worthless subject.

Careful with that Post Thread button there Johnny!

HEAV · 03-26-2005, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by delany

True.....but YOU don't know how to read other threads.....

Now we have two WONDERFUL, MAGICAL threads on a completely worthless subject.

Careful with that Post Thread button there Johnny!

I think he's........well what he's trying to say is "Repost"

Bob's your Information Minister · 03-26-2005, 12:40 PM

Jealous?

watermock · 03-26-2005, 12:52 PM

Yeah, we will be pretty scared when you wheel out Bell and Ty Law.

minibronco · 03-26-2005, 01:21 PM

yeah. sorry.

delany · 03-26-2005, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HEAV07

I think he's........well what he's trying to say is "Repost"

Was I being obtuse?

Clockwork Orange · 03-26-2005, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Jealous?

Of what? The fact that the signing of Sammy Knight was so impressive that one of his own teammates (on the same side of the ball, no less) doesn't even bother to remember his name?

Bob's your Information Minister · 03-26-2005, 02:44 PM

Keep grasping for straws, guys. Defense is returning to Kansas City. And you all hate it!

Sodak · 03-26-2005, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Keep grasping for straws, guys. Defense is returning to Kansas City. And you all hate it!

That's basically what you said last year Bob. Your cred is slipping...

Oooooh, Beware the Goonther!

Bob's your Information Minister · 03-26-2005, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sodak

That's basically what you said last year Bob. Your cred is slipping...

Oooooh, Beware the Goonther!

It can't rain all the time!

Clockwork Orange · 03-26-2005, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Keep grasping for straws, guys. Defense is returning to Kansas City. And you all hate it!

OK, let us know when it gets there.

I'm pretty sure you're injury riddled LB and journeyman safety didn't bring it with them.....and we all know Gunther sure didn't.

Sarcastro · 03-26-2005, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

OK, let us know when it gets there.

I'm pretty sure you're injury riddled LB and journeyman safety didn't bring it with them.....and we all know Gunther sure didn't.

An injury riddled LB that missed a few games due to coming back from an injury too quick and missed a bunch of games because of a non-related lifting injury.

A journeyman safety that has played for two teams in his eight year NFL career, averages 4+ interceptions a season and 95 tackles a season.

Clockwork Orange · 03-26-2005, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarcastro

An injury riddled LB that missed a few games due to coming back from an injury too quick and missed a bunch of games because of a non-related lifting injury.

A journeyman safety that has played for two teams in his eight year NFL career, averages 4+ interceptions a season and 95 tackles a season.

A guy who's had 2 sports hernia surgeries in one year.

A safety that just signed with his 3rd team in 4 years.

Sarcastro · 03-26-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

A guy who's had 2 sports hernia surgeries in one year.

A safety that just signed with his 3rd team in 4 years.

2003 MIA 16 16 98 78 20 6 0.0 2 0 3 98 0
2004 MIA 16 16 96 65 31 4 0.0 2 1 4 32 0

Knight really sucked at Miami.

No1BroncoFan · 03-26-2005, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

It can't rain all the time!

Obviously, you've never been to Oregon.

Ben

football idiot · 03-28-2005, 08:56 AM

is that why the Chief's are after people like Bell and Law?

they want to be able to sell jersey's to their fans, and the fans want players whose names they can actually spell and pronounce?

sound marketing strategy of you ask me. maybe they can go after Tim Couch next.

Tom A Hawk · 03-28-2005, 01:16 PM

Well, we didn't necessarily pay him know who is who...not even on his own team.
By the way, speaking of paying.......how much did Bronco's pay this whiz kid? I don't remember either, but it was a heck of a lot more than the Chiefs pay him.

03-26-2005, 11:14 AM	#1
minibronco KFFL Writer/Fantasy Scout Defense: 11 Strong Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The OC Posts: 2,474	Shows How STupid THey REAlly Are. Whole lot of shake-up going on with Chiefs By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Down at his offseason home in Florida, where he's been insulated from the icy winds of change rattling other Chiefs defenders, Lional Dalton admitted to a certain lack of knowledge about current events. "I really don't know what's been going on up there," said Dalton, a starting defensive tackle. "My wife keeps up with it more than I do. Last I heard, we signed a safety. What's his name? Samari Rolle?" Obviously, some introductions will be in order Monday when the Chiefs begin the conditioning phase of their offseason program. Dalton will shake hands not with Rolle, a free-agent cornerback who signed instead with Baltimore, but new starting safety Sammy Knight. Dalton also will meet another recent acquisition, linebacker Kendrell Bell — and perhaps soon a new cornerback, maybe Ty Law or Patrick Surtain. That would make three new defensive starters, for those who are counting. Every one of the Chiefs' defenders is counting — even Dalton, who was arguably their best lineman last year and should feel relatively secure. Dalton may not know their names yet, but their presence has him looking over his shoulder, too. "You've always got to worry about your job," Dalton said. "That's one thing I've learned. As long as you've got somebody pushing you, you've got to get the job done. If you don't, they'll find somebody to take your job. I thought I had nothing to worry about when I was with Denver. I had the big contract, and I was released the next year. "It definitely picks up the competition level when there's a guy behind you who can also be a starter. It helps you pick up your game. There's nothing wrong with competition." That was the idea behind the signing of Knight, an eight-year starter with New Orleans and Miami. He was handed the strong safety job, leaving incumbent starters Greg Wesley and Jerome Woods to compete at free safety. The Chiefs haven't been specific publicly about their plans for Bell, but he will probably wind up as their starting middle linebacker. That would displace Mike Maslowski and Kawika Mitchell, the starting middle linebackers from the last two seasons. Law or Surtain would take a starting job from William Bartee and Dexter McCleon, who shared a position last year opposite Eric Warfield. The moves also won't directly affect Jared Allen, a starting defensive end who last year as a rookie led the Chiefs in sacks. But they also got his attention. "We had two great safeties, in my opinion, and they brought another one in," Allen said. "That just shows that everybody is going to have to earn his spot." Even offensive players have taken notice. Fullback Tony Richardson, after making the Pro Bowl the last two seasons as part of one of the NFL's highest-scoring offenses, has a secure roster spot. The Chiefs have nobody capable of taking his job even if they wanted to replace him. But Richardson was at the Truman Sports Complex on Friday getting a head start on his workout program. "You can't get comfortable in our business," Richardson said. "Whenever you do, that's when you set yourself up for failure. "It eventually comes to an end for everybody. There's probably only three ways you're going to leave this business. One is to retire on your own terms and have this big farewell party. It doesn't happen that way for too many guys. Another is to get hurt. The last one is when they bring somebody in to take your job. That's the way it happens for a lot of guys." The first seven weeks of the offseason program are reserved for conditioning. The Chiefs aren't scheduled for their first practice until the middle of May. But the first organized activity of the year, which includes a team barbecue Monday, is always an occasion. "Regardless of whether you had a good year or a bad year, you always look forward to getting back to work," Richardson said. "The kind of season we had last year, it kind of lives with you, kind of haunts you. Coach (Dick) Vermeil always tells you to try to get away from football during this time and try to get it off your mind. But you still replay a lot of things that happened last year in your mind." The Chiefs were expecting most of their players. They were not expecting tight end Tony Gonzalez, wide receiver Johnnie Morton and running back Priest Holmes to be regular participants until practice begins. Those players expressed to the Chiefs an interest in conditioning at home — Gonzalez and Morton in California and Holmes in Texas.

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03-26-2005, 11:21 AM	#2
delany Uber Bronco Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 762	No REAL offense Mini....but this just might show your stupidity more than anyone else...

03-26-2005, 11:42 AM	#3
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Shhh...It's Dick 4 Meals nap time...must be verwy verwy qwiet.... Hey, if they aren't going to workout till May, they should go ahead and give Ty Law 10 million, that's about the time he gets out of his walking cast....

03-26-2005, 11:45 AM	#4
minibronco KFFL Writer/Fantasy Scout Defense: 11 Strong Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The OC Posts: 2,474	they don't even know their names!

03-26-2005, 12:40 PM	#7
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	Jealous?

03-26-2005, 12:52 PM	#8
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Yeah, we will be pretty scared when you wheel out Bell and Ty Law.

03-26-2005, 01:21 PM	#9
minibronco KFFL Writer/Fantasy Scout Defense: 11 Strong Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The OC Posts: 2,474	yeah. sorry.

03-26-2005, 02:44 PM	#12
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	Keep grasping for straws, guys. Defense is returning to Kansas City. And you all hate it!

03-28-2005, 08:56 AM	#20
football idiot Perennial Pro-bowler thestupidgenius was too long for the new and improved OM Join Date: May 2001 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 917	is that why the Chief's are after people like Bell and Law? they want to be able to sell jersey's to their fans, and the fans want players whose names they can actually spell and pronounce? sound marketing strategy of you ask me. maybe they can go after Tim Couch next.

03-28-2005, 01:16 PM	#21
Tom A Hawk Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 1,003	Well, we didn't necessarily pay him know who is who...not even on his own team. By the way, speaking of paying.......how much did Bronco's pay this whiz kid? I don't remember either, but it was a heck of a lot more than the Chiefs pay him.