Ferguson @ Strong Safety? - The Orange Mane

HEAV · 03-23-2005, 02:49 PM

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan said S Nick Ferguson is projected as the team's starting strong safety after former S Kenoy Kennedy (Lions) departed via free agency.
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Ok I just can't figure this. Why have a younger/faster player @ Strong side and an older/slower player @ free safety?

To me this is just dumb.........

Rascal · 03-23-2005, 02:51 PM

Legwold could also be talking out of his ass again

SoCalBronco · 03-23-2005, 02:51 PM

i think legwold has it mixed up heav. Kenoy played FS last year even though he is a natural SS, and Fergy will replace him at FS.

eddie mac · 03-23-2005, 02:54 PM

Wouldn't read anyhting into this, just read on KFFL that Ferguson is a candidate for the nickleback spot

Cito Pelon · 03-23-2005, 03:07 PM

Safety is still a missing part of the puzzle.

Ratboy · 03-23-2005, 03:08 PM

I think we'll draft a Safety with a 3rd round pick, maybe a 2nd

bpc · 03-23-2005, 03:20 PM

DL, S, G definitely the biggest needs in this draft. I think we'll take three of those with our top three picks. Our 2nd 3rd round pick is going to be Jackson from UNC.

SoCalBronco · 03-23-2005, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bpc

DL, S, G definitely the biggest needs in this draft. I think we'll take three of those with our top three picks. Our 2nd 3rd round pick is going to be Jackson from UNC.

Jackson will not last till the 101st pick.

bpc · 03-23-2005, 03:24 PM

Well... pick him higher...

I don't know, I'd be happy with Jackson in the 2nd round. We have other needs but wouldn't mind bringing in somebody to challenge Watts. I think our offense is going to be just sick next year. Simply sick. As long as Jake doesn't get hurt, we are going to see a very efficient group. I would like to add some more depth to the guard position but we did just fine with Cooper in there. Our line tends to run like a smoothly oiled machine no matter who is playing.

FADERPROOF · 03-23-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

i think legwold has it mixed up heav. Kenoy played FS last year even though he is a natural SS, and Fergy will replace him at FS.

actually it was KK that stayed at SS and John Lynch made the move to FS.

HEAV · 03-23-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DenFan38

actually it was KK that stayed at SS and John Lynch made the move to FS.

I understood that last year. But why not move Lynch back to his former position at SS and have Fergy play his Free safety. Wouldn't it be better to have his ball skills (supposed) at the free spot.

Would you rather see Lynch in coverage with Moss out there or Fergy? I know Lynch can bring the wood. But still wouldn't that be better at SS and near the line of scrimmage?

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun · 03-23-2005, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HEAV07

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan said S Nick Ferguson is projected as the team's starting strong safety after former S Kenoy Kennedy (Lions) departed via free agency.
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Ok I just can't figure this. Why have a younger/faster player @ Strong side and an older/slower player @ free safety?

To me this is just dumb.........

FS is just a title. Lynch's title was FS but he played in the box alot last year like a SS.

Drek · 03-23-2005, 03:47 PM

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Jackson will not last till the 101st pick.

I don't know, he hasn't gotten a whole lot of press and before the combine he was a question to even be drafted. Most scouts think his impressive combine was needed to move him into the 3rd or 4th round, but that with his sporadic performance against Div. II competition he'll have no chance of making the first two rounds.

He could very well go before us in the 3rd though. We'll see, I get the gut feeling that Shanahan likes this kid and will take him in the 2nd if he gets the least bit ansy that someone is going to beat him to it. Just like he did with Watts.

Garcia Bronco · 03-23-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HEAV07

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan said S Nick Ferguson is projected as the team's starting strong safety after former S Kenoy Kennedy (Lions) departed via free agency.
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Ok I just can't figure this. Why have a younger/faster player @ Strong side and an older/slower player @ free safety?

To me this is just dumb.........

Did coach take away your decision making ability again in the last team meeting?

HEAV · 03-23-2005, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Did coach take away your decision making ability again in the last team meeting?

Ass still burning Garcia?? Hmmmm you need to take care of that.

Just can't put things to rest. So who's the a-hole now? Ya right it's me for telling the truth and now for speaking my mind on "your" board!

TheDave · 03-23-2005, 04:31 PM

the 2 positions are so interchangeable now i don't think the title matters

ncjmirabile · 03-23-2005, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDave

the 2 positions are so interchangeable now i don't think the title matters

Traditionally the FS responsibility is pass coverage while the SS would come up in run support. What Denver had was two traditional SS and no true FS. Kennedy was SS and Lynch was FS. Ferguson is a better option at FS than Lynch or Kennedy.

A lot of teams have converted CBs who can cover and hit into FS. The Patriots converted Eugene Wilson from CB to FS. The Ravens converted Rod Woodson from CB to FS. I believe the Rams converted Aeneas Williams from CB to FS. Dwight Smith was a ballhawk as a FS in Tampa Bay.

HEAV · 03-23-2005, 04:36 PM

I just worry about Lynch in coverage. I still can see the Colts wideouts running past him.

TheDave · 03-23-2005, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ncjmirabile

Traditionally the FS responsibility is pass coverage while the SS would come up in run support. What Denver had was two traditional SS and no true FS. Kennedy was SS and Lynch was FS. Ferguson is a better option at FS than Lynch or Kennedy.

A lot of teams have converted CBs who can cover and hit into FS. The Patriots converted Eugene Wilson from CB to FS. The Ravens converted Rod Woodson from CB to FS. I believe the Rams converted Aeneas Williams from CB to FS. Dwight Smith was a ballhawk as a FS in Tampa Bay.

Honestly, in todays pass happy NFL i think the free saftey should just be replaced with the nickle back... but from what i can see of our defensive schemes we flip them between coverage and run support almost 50/50

HEAV · 03-23-2005, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ncjmirabile

Traditionally the FS responsibility is pass coverage while the SS would come up in run support. What Denver had was two traditional SS and no true FS. Kennedy was SS and Lynch was FS. Ferguson is a better option at FS than Lynch or Kennedy.

A lot of teams have converted CBs who can cover and hit into FS. The Patriots converted Eugene Wilson from CB to FS. The Ravens converted Rod Woodson from CB to FS. I believe the Rams converted Aeneas Williams from CB to FS. Dwight Smith was a ballhawk as a FS in Tampa Bay.

Also Corey Chavious, Troy Vincent, Ray Buchanan, and the most known CB to FS move Ronnie Lott.

FS as always been more of a coverage safety with ball skills.

Hogan11 · 03-23-2005, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HEAV07

I just worry about Lynch in coverage. I still can see the Colts wideouts running past him.

They'll run past Fergy as well.

By game three, all the blown coverages will be Fergy's fault for not providing safety help........just wait and see.

Cito Pelon · 03-23-2005, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDave

the 2 positions are so interchangeable now i don't think the title matters

Do u actually know anything about the NFL?

TheDave · 03-23-2005, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cito Pelon

Do u actually know anything about the NFL?

Son, I've forgotten more than you will ever know...

ncjmirabile · 03-23-2005, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hogan11

They'll run past Fergy as well.

By game three, all the blown coverages will be Fergy's fault for not providing safety help........just wait and see.

The bottom line is that they need to get the right person at FS (the coverage safety position). Fergy isn't the greatest for it but he is better than Lynch or KK at FS and he is the best option at this point in time for the FS position unless one of the CBs get converted over (Walls, Leseur). No disrespect to anyone's boy. KK and Lynch are very good SS not FS.

Dean · 03-23-2005, 08:49 PM

As Coyer stated today, LeSeur was drafted to be a cover safety.

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HEAV Ring of Famer It's about the Team Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Ville Posts: 12,077 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brian Dawkins	Ferguson @ Strong Safety? Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan said S Nick Ferguson is projected as the team's starting strong safety after former S Kenoy Kennedy (Lions) departed via free agency. -------------- Ok I just can't figure this. Why have a younger/faster player @ Strong side and an older/slower player @ free safety? To me this is just dumb.........

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eddie mac Ireland's No1 Bronco Eddie Mac 87 gone but never forgott Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: IRELAND Posts: 15,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	Wouldn't read anyhting into this, just read on KFFL that Ferguson is a candidate for the nickleback spot

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bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,570 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	DL, S, G definitely the biggest needs in this draft. I think we'll take three of those with our top three picks. Our 2nd 3rd round pick is going to be Jackson from UNC.

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bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,570 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Well... pick him higher... I don't know, I'd be happy with Jackson in the 2nd round. We have other needs but wouldn't mind bringing in somebody to challenge Watts. I think our offense is going to be just sick next year. Simply sick. As long as Jake doesn't get hurt, we are going to see a very efficient group. I would like to add some more depth to the guard position but we did just fine with Cooper in there. Our line tends to run like a smoothly oiled machine no matter who is playing.

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TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	the 2 positions are so interchangeable now i don't think the title matters

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HEAV Ring of Famer It's about the Team Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Ville Posts: 12,077 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brian Dawkins	I just worry about Lynch in coverage. I still can see the Colts wideouts running past him.

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Dean Solid Starter Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 213	As Coyer stated today, LeSeur was drafted to be a cover safety.