We need another good Cornerback - The Orange Mane

long beach bronco · 03-21-2005, 07:52 AM

I really think we need to go after Patrick Surtain or Ty Law, this team needs another good cornerback to help out Champ. I would love to have Surtain or Law after we deal with the C. Brown situation.

Ray Finkle · 03-21-2005, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by long beach bronco

I really think we need to go after Patrick Surtain or Ty Law, this team needs another good cornerback to help out Champ. I would love to have Surtain or Law after we deal with the C. Brown situation.

With what money?

watermock · 03-21-2005, 08:14 AM

Good Lord. We have about 15 on the roster allready that suck. We are paying Champ the money for TWO number ones as it is.

Don't even start on our horrible drafting and overpayment of corners. It's one of the major reasons we are always tight on the cap. Dale Carter, Middlebrooks, Deltha, Champ isn't exactly cheap, but he can't be two places at once.

The "plan" if to have an undrafted FA as our #2, and another, Roc, as our #3 I guess. I'm sorry, but the secondary has taken a big step backward as well. Fergy can move up, but who is behind him? Sam Brandon? Can Lynch still move or is he Atwater with the Jets? What about our draft choices, LeSewer and Choke? We have plenty of bodies.

2KBack · 03-21-2005, 08:16 AM

Addressing a position that isn't a glaring weakness with minimal cap room, that would just piss me off. Next you'll suggest they throw millions at an unnecessary Mini Linebacker.

~Crash~ · 03-21-2005, 11:03 AM

just match hernden's money keep pryce and add a DE the first round and a DT some were in the draft and we are in busness

crazyhorse · 03-21-2005, 11:08 AM

The Broncos have obviously given all monies allocated for the CB position to Champ Bailey. Which as I remember (per Bronco fans) was a smart move, because defense wins championships.

Ray Finkle · 03-21-2005, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 56crash

just match hernden's money keep pryce and add a DE the first round and a DT some were and we are in busness

why would you pay a nickel-back an average of three million a year?

Billy Clyde Puckett · 03-21-2005, 11:15 AM

Corners have become less important with the current rules. That is why so many high priced ones are being dumped by their teams.

Name the starting CBs in the Super Bowl.

SoCalBronco · 03-21-2005, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorse

The Broncos have obviously given all monies allocated for the CB position to Champ Bailey. Which as I remember (per Bronco fans) was a smart move, because defense wins championships.

Today is not exactly the best day for Chief Fan to be criticizing anyone.

BritBronco Maniac · 03-21-2005, 11:19 AM

I think they are happy with Middlebrooks as the nickleback, which is why they gave Herndon the lowball offer
Now he just has to stay healthy

~Crash~ · 03-21-2005, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Finkle

why would you pay a nickel-back an average of three million a year?

because the contract is back loaded ! he would only cost 1 mill more this year to sign and 3 mill signing bounes is chump change ! we would not end up with a guy that does not fit our system !! money well spent !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~Crash~ · 03-21-2005, 11:27 AM

I know noone like to make excuses but when middelbrooks and walls got hurt that killed our team before that I believe we would of kicked Indys a$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

long beach bronco · 03-21-2005, 11:35 AM

We still need to address the issue, we need another good corner, and whatever plan we can come up with to get one, we should do it. The management needs to get creative like they always do. Shanny knows we need more help in the secondary, hopefully during this owners meeting, something will get done by way of a trade or something. I just don't trust our secondary the way it is now. Something has to be done real quick. Like i said earlier, i would love to have Surtain.

Rascal · 03-21-2005, 11:36 AM

uh....CB....I would rather have a d-line at the current moment. Our d-line presently is Warren, Fatafehi, Paleopi (whatever the hell is name is) and

at the other DE position.

If that gets settled and we still have money to toss around why the hell not.

crazyhorse · 03-21-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Today is not exactly the best day for Chief Fan to be criticizing anyone.

On the contrary. It's always a good day to crack on the Donks.

Clockwork Orange · 03-21-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorse

The Broncos have obviously given all monies allocated for the CB position to Champ Bailey. Which as I remember (per Bronco fans) was a smart move, because defense wins championships.

Come back when you have a defense worth mentioning.

Kendrell Bell, Sammy Knight & Gunther will fix everything, right?

Riiiiiight.

long beach bronco · 03-21-2005, 11:39 AM

I said we need a CB.........after............we deal with the C. Brown situation, or meaning DLine. Hopefully something gets done this week.

Hotrod · 03-21-2005, 11:39 AM

Im all in favor of picking up another corner but first we should think about picking up a few more linebackers and punters.

Rascal · 03-21-2005, 11:40 AM

I second that...what this team lacks is a really good overpriced midget LB...we get that and we are set for the super bowl!!!

long beach bronco · 03-21-2005, 11:41 AM

Oh stop.

philiptr2 · 03-21-2005, 11:49 AM

Finkle was right...the Broncos have no money to spend on the secondary. We just have to hope that Walls and Roc can step it up. I doubt that the Broncos are going to be able to afford Herndon. ffice

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I really hate to see Kennedy go. He is one of the best Safeties in the league. It wasn’t until that Atlanta game that he even had a missed tackle last year…and at that point the only Bronco with more tackles was D.J. Williams.

The Broncos do have some Safeties to step in. If you remember, last year the Broncos kept five Safeties on the roster. Fergy should be able to fill in adequately and Chris Young and Sam Brandon provide depth at the Free and Strong Safety positions. Both of those players are great bargains in the secondary, with salaries of less than $400,000 a year.

Ray Finkle · 03-21-2005, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by philiptr2

Finkle was right...the Broncos have no money to spend on the secondary. We just have to hope that Walls and Roc can step it up. I doubt that the Broncos are going to be able to afford Herndon. ffice

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I really hate to see Kennedy go. He is one of the best Safeties in the league. It wasn’t until that Atlanta game that he even had a missed tackle last year…and at that point the only Bronco with more tackles was D.J. Williams.

The Broncos do have some Safeties to step in. If you remember, last year the Broncos kept five Safeties on the roster. Fergy should be able to fill in adequately and Chris Young and Sam Brandon provide depth at the Free and Strong Safety positions. Both of those players are great bargains in the secondary, with salaries of less than $400,000 a year.

Thank you and Welcome.

56, If they didn't put the 1st round tag on him, why would they almost pay that to match him. 3 million isn't a lot? When you are only under the cap by 3 million this year and may have to each Pryce's salary next year, it is titanic...

Atlas · 03-21-2005, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by long beach bronco

I really think we need to go after Patrick Surtain or Ty Law, this team needs another good cornerback to help out Champ. I would love to have Surtain or Law after we deal with the C. Brown situation.

That is why I think Denver should keep Pryce and draft a CB in the first round.

long beach bronco · 03-21-2005, 05:05 PM

I think so too, they have money to sign C. Brown and then we can concentrate on getting a good young fast CB and a tall WR in the Draft. If we keep Pryce and sign Brown, our first 2 picks should be CB or WR, or WR or CB.

ncjmirabile · 03-21-2005, 05:36 PM

Denver needs to get the pass rush and the d-line fixed before adding another CB. The money is going to be in the d-line with the current rules. You could have a secondary of Bailey, Mcalister, Reed, Dawkins, and Woodson as the nickleback and it still wouldn't make that much of a difference unless you have a d-line. A true FS would go a long way to fix coverage problems more than another CB with that cover 2 Denver likes to play.

03-21-2005, 07:52 AM	#1
long beach bronco Registered User "I'm your Huckleberry" Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Long Beach Posts: 1,017 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	We need another good Cornerback I really think we need to go after Patrick Surtain or Ty Law, this team needs another good cornerback to help out Champ. I would love to have Surtain or Law after we deal with the C. Brown situation.

03-21-2005, 11:03 AM	#5
~Crash~ My new dog Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,600 Adopt-a-Bronco: Kuper	just match hernden's money keep pryce and add a DE the first round and a DT some were in the draft and we are in busness Last edited by ~Crash~; 03-21-2005 at 11:17 AM..

03-21-2005, 11:49 AM	#21
philiptr2 Gunslinger DRAW!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Highlands Ranch Posts: 297 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Williams	Finkle was right...the Broncos have no money to spend on the secondary. We just have to hope that Walls and Roc can step it up. I doubt that the Broncos are going to be able to afford Herndon. fficeffice" /> I really hate to see Kennedy go. He is one of the best Safeties in the league. It wasn’t until that Atlanta game that he even had a missed tackle last year…and at that point the only Bronco with more tackles was D.J. Williams. The Broncos do have some Safeties to step in. If you remember, last year the Broncos kept five Safeties on the roster. Fergy should be able to fill in adequately and Chris Young and Sam Brandon provide depth at the Free and Strong Safety positions. Both of those players are great bargains in the secondary, with salaries of less than $400,000 a year.

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03-21-2005, 08:14 AM	#3
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Good Lord. We have about 15 on the roster allready that suck. We are paying Champ the money for TWO number ones as it is. Don't even start on our horrible drafting and overpayment of corners. It's one of the major reasons we are always tight on the cap. Dale Carter, Middlebrooks, Deltha, Champ isn't exactly cheap, but he can't be two places at once. The "plan" if to have an undrafted FA as our #2, and another, Roc, as our #3 I guess. I'm sorry, but the secondary has taken a big step backward as well. Fergy can move up, but who is behind him? Sam Brandon? Can Lynch still move or is he Atwater with the Jets? What about our draft choices, LeSewer and Choke? We have plenty of bodies.

03-21-2005, 08:16 AM	#4
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,275	Addressing a position that isn't a glaring weakness with minimal cap room, that would just piss me off. Next you'll suggest they throw millions at an unnecessary Mini Linebacker.

03-21-2005, 11:08 AM	#6
crazyhorse All Motor!! You can only hope to contain me Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,338	The Broncos have obviously given all monies allocated for the CB position to Champ Bailey. Which as I remember (per Bronco fans) was a smart move, because defense wins championships.

03-21-2005, 11:15 AM	#8
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	Corners have become less important with the current rules. That is why so many high priced ones are being dumped by their teams. Name the starting CBs in the Super Bowl.

03-21-2005, 11:19 AM	#10
BritBronco Maniac Realist Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brighton, England Posts: 2,592	I think they are happy with Middlebrooks as the nickleback, which is why they gave Herndon the lowball offer Now he just has to stay healthy

03-21-2005, 11:27 AM	#12
~Crash~ My new dog Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,600 Adopt-a-Bronco: Kuper	I know noone like to make excuses but when middelbrooks and walls got hurt that killed our team before that I believe we would of kicked Indys a$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

03-21-2005, 11:35 AM	#13
long beach bronco Registered User "I'm your Huckleberry" Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Long Beach Posts: 1,017 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	We still need to address the issue, we need another good corner, and whatever plan we can come up with to get one, we should do it. The management needs to get creative like they always do. Shanny knows we need more help in the secondary, hopefully during this owners meeting, something will get done by way of a trade or something. I just don't trust our secondary the way it is now. Something has to be done real quick. Like i said earlier, i would love to have Surtain.

03-21-2005, 11:36 AM	#14
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	uh....CB....I would rather have a d-line at the current moment. Our d-line presently is Warren, Fatafehi, Paleopi (whatever the hell is name is) and at the other DE position. If that gets settled and we still have money to toss around why the hell not.

03-21-2005, 11:39 AM	#17
long beach bronco Registered User "I'm your Huckleberry" Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Long Beach Posts: 1,017 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I said we need a CB.........after............we deal with the C. Brown situation, or meaning DLine. Hopefully something gets done this week.

03-21-2005, 11:39 AM	#18
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	Im all in favor of picking up another corner but first we should think about picking up a few more linebackers and punters.

03-21-2005, 11:40 AM	#19
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	I second that...what this team lacks is a really good overpriced midget LB...we get that and we are set for the super bowl!!!

03-21-2005, 11:41 AM	#20
long beach bronco Registered User "I'm your Huckleberry" Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Long Beach Posts: 1,017 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Oh stop.

03-21-2005, 05:05 PM	#24
long beach bronco Registered User "I'm your Huckleberry" Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Long Beach Posts: 1,017 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I think so too, they have money to sign C. Brown and then we can concentrate on getting a good young fast CB and a tall WR in the Draft. If we keep Pryce and sign Brown, our first 2 picks should be CB or WR, or WR or CB.

03-21-2005, 05:36 PM	#25
ncjmirabile Spiderman 3's Gwen Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Princeton, WV Posts: 338	Denver needs to get the pass rush and the d-line fixed before adding another CB. The money is going to be in the d-line with the current rules. You could have a secondary of Bailey, Mcalister, Reed, Dawkins, and Woodson as the nickleback and it still wouldn't make that much of a difference unless you have a d-line. A true FS would go a long way to fix coverage problems more than another CB with that cover 2 Denver likes to play.