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Old 03-18-2005, 09:57 PM   #1
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Default We interviewed Antrel Rolle at the combine

according to his mom. She responded to a PM i sent her on a hurricanes board regarding Denver's interest in Antrel. She said they were one of the teams that interviewed him at the combine. Interesting, maybe if Shanny is going to move up like alot of people are saying, it might be for Rolle to be our super ball hawking safety perhaps. Or they move walls to safety and have two stud corners in Rolle and Bailey.

As a sidenote, she said Willie Middlebrooks was one of her students back in the day.

Now i still want DL in the draft, but maybe if we can get Courtney Brown and keep Trevor or sign a decent defensive lineman after the June 1st cuts using the money freed up by Plummer yesterday, it might be an idea to go after Rolle.
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Old 03-18-2005, 09:59 PM   #2
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Even with the prospect of Rolle, are we still ok capwise to sign all our draft picks btw?

I'd love to see how this kid would play in our system for sure.
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One of the very few players in this draft I'd be in favor of trading up to get.
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Even with the prospect of Rolle, are we still ok capwise to sign all our draft picks btw?
i dunno about our cap bro. Right now we are about 3 million under according to that article yesterday, after Plummer restructured for the second time this offseason. Herc prolly knows alot better on that though.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe dumping Pryce (either via trade or releasing him) will free up about $3 million in cap space this season.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe dumping Pryce (either via trade or releasing him) will free up about $3 million in cap space this season.
i think that may be a conservative estimate CO. I think Heav tossed around the number of 5 million. I dont remember how much Herc said we would save, but it was pretty significant.
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i think that may be a conservative estimate CO. I think Heav tossed around the number of 5 million. I dont remember how much Herc said we would save, but it was pretty significant.
Even with the restructuring, I'd be happy if we could have not blown money on... ah nevermind


Needless to say, I hope the interview is just the beginning of a good prospect with this kid. How was his prospects jumped since the combine btw?
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Pez, right now i think he could go anywhere from the middle of the top 10 to the middle of the teens. He had a good pro day, running in the 4.4s.
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i think that may be a conservative estimate CO. I think Heav tossed around the number of 5 million. I dont remember how much Herc said we would save, but it was pretty significant.
I believe you're right. I remember that figure being tossed around also.

It just seems as though it's a bit late in the game to just dump Pryce for the cap savings now. The majority of desirable free agents have already been signed, hell there weren't that many A-list defensive linemen on the market to begin with.

Anyway, I don't want to hijack this thread into another Pryce discussion. Rolle would be a great pickup, but odds are the Broncos would have to get somewhere between the 6-9 pick to get him. The Titans look like a good trade partner due to their cap issues combined with the prospect of shelling out the $$ for a top 10 selection. But I'm wary of the Broncos giving up their 1st rounder in next years draft (which is an absolute certainty in a proposed deal like this) which is shaping up to be much deeper than this year.
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Now im not saying we are going to move up for him, but it is interesting that we would use one of our interviews on a guy who is projected to go significantly higher than where we pick so there has to be some interest there. So it may be a consideration to move up for him depending on whether he falls below where they think he will go. It would sure be nice to see more of this, in orange and blue this time, as opposed to orange, white and green:

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What do you think Watts, Droughns, and our 25 would pick up?

He is one of the few players that I would be willing to give all that up for and fix the d-line next year and tred water in FA this year.
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Now im not saying we are going to move up for him, but it is interesting that we would use one of our interviews on a guy who is projected to go significantly higher than where we pick so there has to be some interest there. So it may be a consideration to move up for him depending on whether he falls below where they think he will go. It would sure be nice to see more of this, in orange and blue this time, as opposed to orange, white and green:

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What do you think Watts, Droughns, and our 25 would pick up?
Honestly, I don't think that would even get us up to the 24th pick. Droughns has no trade value. Watts is still developing, and while he has some promise, his trade value is minimal.
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Honestly, I don't think that would even get us up to the 24th pick. Droughns has no trade value. Watts is still developing, and while he has some promise, his trade value is minimal.
really?

hMMM...then what would we need to give up to move into the 6-10 range?

Maybe Pryce, Droughns or Watts, and our 25 to Dallas?
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We must be talking to the Titans about #6
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really?

hMMM...then what would we need to give up to move into the 6-10 range?

Maybe Pryce, Droughns or Watts, and our 25 to Dallas?
No one's going to give anything of value for Pryce. If they were, it would have happened already.

It's going to take draft picks, current & future. It'll likely cost the Broncos their 1st & 2nd rounders this year, their 1st next year plus more. It all depends how high they want to trade up and how much the team they're attempting to deal with is asking for.
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Again i do not want to create the impression that we are definitely going to move up for him. But, i do know we have a limited number of combine interviews (because two years ago or last year i dont remember, but we did double up with the Saints so that both teams could get more info with more players overall) and its undisputed that Rolle is likely to go at minimum 10-12 picks ahead of Denver, probably more like 16-18, so there has to be at least some interest in the guy there, so its reasonable to think moving up for rolle is at least a consideration based on a) how the draft plays out i.e. how far rolle falls below the 6-9 area if at all and b) what type of defensive line situation we are in at the time the draft begins i.e. whether we make an internal decision to keep Trevor, or sign Brown, Ellis Johnson etc.
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I think you are right - the Titans have no cap room and will be hard pressed to sign a #6 over all. Plus they need lots of help and a trade down would bring that.
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Again i do not want to create the impression that we are definitely going to move up for him. But, i do know we have a limited number of combine interviews (because two years ago or last year i dont remember, but we did double up with the Saints so that both teams could get more info with more players overall) and its undisputed that Rolle is likely to go at minimum 10-12 picks ahead of Denver, probably more like 16-18, so there has to be at least some interest in the guy there, so its reasonable to think moving up for rolle is at least a consideration based on a) how the draft plays out i.e. how far rolle falls below the 6-9 area if at all and b) what type of defensive line situation we are in at the time the draft begins i.e. whether we make an internal decision to keep Trevor, or sign Brown, Ellis Johnson etc.
It's cool SoCal, I know you're not trying to be a rumor monger.

It's just that talking about this beats the hell out of rehashing the same topics that have been beaten to death on this board over the last couple of weeks (namely Ian Gold and Mike Williams).

Landing Antrel Rolle would make me feel a whole lot better about this offseason.
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I think you are right - the Titans have no cap room and will be hard pressed to sign a #6 over all. Plus they need lots of help and a trade down would bring that.
Yep plus Fisher and Shanny are buds so might be more willing to deal.
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Again i do not want to create the impression that we are definitely going to move up for him. But, i do know we have a limited number of combine interviews (because two years ago or last year i dont remember, but we did double up with the Saints so that both teams could get more info with more players overall) and its undisputed that Rolle is likely to go at minimum 10-12 picks ahead of Denver, probably more like 16-18, so there has to be at least some interest in the guy there, so its reasonable to think moving up for rolle is at least a consideration based on a) how the draft plays out i.e. how far rolle falls below the 6-9 area if at all and b) what type of defensive line situation we are in at the time the draft begins i.e. whether we make an internal decision to keep Trevor, or sign Brown, Ellis Johnson etc.

This offseason has been boring we need dreams like this. Like I always say DRAFT A CANE
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Wonder if having Moss and Porter in AFC West might push this move even more.
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actually this would be a great thing (if we can get our DL in order) if for no reason other than i could make a nice "Ohhhhhhhhhhhh TrINT, meet your new friend" thread with the post consisting of something like "Take a good look at those hands, Trent. Not only are those hands alot bigger than yours but they might as well be Tony Gonzalez hands or Eddie Kennison's hands. Those hands will see just as many balls. Take a good look at that glare, Trent. That glare is going to make you melt just like Dick4Meal's tears makes you melt after a good soothing circle cry." I would really enjoy making this kind of thread for our good buddy Bob.
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Well according to the value chart, This could work.

Titans pick #6 has a 1600 value

Denvers #25 has a 720 value
Denvers #57 has a 330 value

If we throw in next years #1 that would give the edge in favor to the Titans. The worse 1st round value is 590 for #32 so add that as a minmum value and we have 1640 which can cover the #6 pick.

Now who would you prefer at #6 if available..... Rolle or Williams?

This is way too much for me to think about.
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Well according to the value chart, This could work.

Titans pick #6 has a 1600 value

Denvers #25 has a 720 value
Denvers #57 has a 330 value

If we throw in next years #1 that would give the edge in favor to the Titans. The worse 1st round value is 590 for #32 so add that as a minmum value and we have 1640 which can cover the #6 pick.

Now who would you prefer at #6 if available..... Rolle or Williams?

This is way too much for me to think about.


Denver would have to send this years first and next years first or even first and second to get a top ten pick. Most of the time when people move in the top ten they send more value then equaling it.
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