Shanahan's Run Done Here? - Page 4 - The Orange Mane

yavoon · 09-12-2005, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

It's sad to see the board shift from the optimism and general support for Shanahan, to pessimissm and a little bit of despair for the future of the team.

I'm depressed because I feel like were running in place here... The resigning of Gold is fixing a "mistake" that frankly I don't believe ever existed. We did the right thing by letting him go. And his act the entire way out the door only re-inforced the decision.

To double back now, and get virtually no value out of HIS mistake, shows weakness IMO. It's hard to be impressed with the direction we're moving.

well I think ppl were in despair after the season was done last year. a bunch of "stuff" happened(none of it actually leading to winning games), and everyone had their arm twisted to think everything was going to be awesome and now that its totally not awesome! ppl are not only whipping back to end of last year but a little below that. perfectly natural.

DBroncos4life · 09-12-2005, 05:27 PM

I missed where Gold cost us the game, or are we talking about his contract costing us a better player

24champ · 09-12-2005, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

I missed where Gold cost us the game, or are we talking about his contract costing us a better player

its contractual and you compile that with the rest of shannys ***** ups. Thats a recipe for fans to call for his head....if he doesnt win this week its only going to get worse IMO so alot of pressure on Shanny and Jake this weekend.

Rock Chalk · 09-12-2005, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

We are going nowhere in a hurry. Personnel decisions in the off season continue to be some of the worst in the league. With the "no touch" rule being enforced now, it's imperative to find the best DLineman possible and sign them. I said it last season, if we perform this year like we have for the last 5 years, it's time for him to go.

I dont buy the personell excuse one bit. There are areas that need improving, sure, but every team has that. There is plenty of talent on this team to get the job done week in and week out, but there is no god damn intensity and that falls back to the coaching.

That and no god damn push in the red zone is really starting to piss me off. THREE ****ING TIMES ON THE 1 YARD LINE AND WE SETTLE FOR 10 ****ING POINTS.

PatsWin2002 · 09-12-2005, 06:53 PM

Even Belichick has a personnel guy - Scott Pioli.

They both happen to be great at what they do, but that's not the point. Having 2 people on the same page really works well.

On the other hand having a coach that disagrees about personnel with the personnel guy and/or owner is a bad scene.....that's what we had when Parcells was here.

Maybe Shanny could help pick his own personnell guy.

scorpio · 09-12-2005, 06:55 PM

Gruden (gruden....gruden....gruden...)

Gruden.

24champ · 09-12-2005, 06:57 PM

Chucky! Chucky! Chucky!

Rock Chalk · 09-12-2005, 06:59 PM

No to Gruden.

24champ · 09-12-2005, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by scorpiosnow

Gruden (gruden....gruden....gruden...)

Gruden.

**** YOU AL!

elsid13 · 09-12-2005, 07:06 PM

Got to love the mob psychology. Two weeks ago every one loved this team, now we ready to fire the coach and bring in Chucky. I did realize that the definition for Bronco fan meant that we were French.

DivineLegion · 09-12-2005, 07:06 PM

everyone hated all of the sports writers for saying we would suck and now it looks like they knew more then we did...

yavoon · 09-12-2005, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

Got to love the mob psychology. Two weeks ago every one loved this team, now we ready to fire the coach and bring in Chucky. I did realize that the definition for Bronco fan meant that we were French.

I dont think anyone here has stopped rooting for the broncos. if blind support is what makes me american then maybe I should move to france!

scorpio · 09-12-2005, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

Got to love the mob psychology. Two weeks ago every one loved this team, now we ready to fire the coach and bring in Chucky. I did realize that the definition for Bronco fan meant that we were French.

There's no justice like angry mob justice.

elsid13 · 09-12-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by yavoon

I dont think anyone here has stopped rooting for the broncos. if blind support is what makes me american then maybe I should move to france!

Over half the board is ready to give up after one game, I not questioning anyone's passion for this team (that way everyone is so upset with the way they played yesterday), but I think people need to take a step back from the ledge. We have 15 games to go. and if we lose all 15 I will still support the team and coach.

yavoon · 09-12-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

Over half the board is ready to give up after one game, I not questioning anyone's passion for this team (that way everyone is so upset with the way they played yesterday), but I think people need to take a step back from the ledge. We have 15 games to go. and if we lose all 15 I will still support the team and coach.

bah its all perfectly normal, u cant evaluate a season after 1 game. but unless u invent a time machine I sure as hell am gna try!

=D, besides if the broncos do anything reasonably good it will swing back in the other direction.

Rock Chalk · 09-12-2005, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

Got to love the mob psychology. Two weeks ago every one loved this team,

Two weeks ago we were't embarrassed on opening Sunday by one of the dregs of the NFL. Denver didnt just lose, they got beaten.....badly. Make any excuse you want, but Shanny is as much to blame as anyone is.

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now we ready to fire the coach and bring in Chucky. I did realize that the definition for Bronco fan meant that we were French.

Im not ready to fire the coach and bring in Chucky. I am however ready for a change. Our red zone has not improved, its gotten worse. Its not because of the skill positions, its because of the O-line and while they do great in zone blocking on draws and counters, they are horrendous and power blocking on the 1 yard line to get the back some sort of wedge to slip through. And guess what buddy, as long as Shanny is here, the O-line philosophy is not going to change. We are going to struggle mightily in the red zone until we get some god damn road grader's in there to run block.

I do not think the season is lost because I do not believe as a team, they will play THAT badly again, but the mere fact that they CAN play that BADLY makes me highly suspicious if we will in fact, win a playoff game this year.

Cito Pelon · 09-12-2005, 07:55 PM

Shanny is in charge of the chess game, the unit coaches are supposed to be the guys in charge of kicking ass. Obviously, the staff as a whole better decide whether they want to be chess coaches, or football coaches.

Rock Chalk · 09-12-2005, 07:56 PM

I didnt see any chess coaches out there Cito.

Come to think of it, I didnt see much coaching at all.

bronco militia · 09-12-2005, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DivineLegion

everyone hated all of the sports writers for saying we would suck and now it looks like they knew more then we did...

we?...no, just you

RhymesayersDU · 09-12-2005, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by scorpiosnow

There's no justice like angry mob justice.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to scorpiosnow again.

Great quote.

Atlas · 09-12-2005, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

We are going nowhere in a hurry. Personnel decisions in the off season continue to be some of the worst in the league. With the "no touch" rule being enforced now, it's imperative to find the best DLineman possible and sign them. I said it last season, if we perform this year like we have for the last 5 years, it's time for him to go.

WOW your calling the season after one game huh?? NICE!!!!

Bronco_Beerslug · 09-12-2005, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlas

WOW your calling the season after one game huh?? NICE!!!!

Heh heh, look at some of your posts in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Atlas

Shanny has a plan just because he hasn't told the Mane about it doesn't mean it's not a good one..........Denver now has the best starting LBs in the league. In the first week of FA Denver got a big NT and a good pass rushing LB. That doesn't sound so bad to me.........I agree. Denver goes 12-4 or 13-3 and lets bring in the Colts and Pats to Mile High..

fdf · 09-12-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I'm depressed because I feel like were running in place here...

This describes the team perfectly--running in place. Every year, we have a slightly better than average team with absolutely no hope of advancing in the playoffs. No, I don't expect the team to go 4-12. But I would also be shocked by 11 wins. And that has been true year after year after year. This year will be the same--the Miami game doesn't foretell a collapse. The team will be just good enough to keep me interested and will suck just enough not to go anywhere interesting.

Shanahan has perfected a formula for the cap era that guarantees we won't be pathetic losers and also guarantees we will never win the Superbowl or an AFC championship.

BTW, 97 and 98 don't count vis-a-vis this point as those teams were built pre-cap. I'm talking about Shanahan's formula in the cap era.

What to do about it, I don't know. I suspect we are doomed to being just above mediocre as long as the current regime continues.

Atlas · 09-12-2005, 08:09 PM

Shanny better watch out the natives are restless.

24champ · 09-12-2005, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlas

Shanny better watch out the natives are restless.

the MANE gang......

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09-12-2005, 05:27 PM	#77
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,928 Adopt-a-Bronco: Julius "Fluff"	I missed where Gold cost us the game, or are we talking about his contract costing us a better player

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PatsWin2002 Giggity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: South of Boston Posts: 6,270	Even Belichick has a personnel guy - Scott Pioli. They both happen to be great at what they do, but that's not the point. Having 2 people on the same page really works well. On the other hand having a coach that disagrees about personnel with the personnel guy and/or owner is a bad scene.....that's what we had when Parcells was here. Maybe Shanny could help pick his own personnell guy.

09-12-2005, 06:55 PM	#81
scorpio Cubicle Pimp Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,499	Gruden (gruden....gruden....gruden...) Gruden.

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24champ Livin' the dream! Methwolfe Alliance Captain Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 18,700 Adopt-a-Bronco: DomCasual	Chucky! Chucky! Chucky!

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Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,942 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	No to Gruden.

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elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,139	Got to love the mob psychology. Two weeks ago every one loved this team, now we ready to fire the coach and bring in Chucky. I did realize that the definition for Bronco fan meant that we were French.

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DivineLegion There can only be one... G.O.A.T Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Peak of Good Living Posts: 4,193 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nate Irving	everyone hated all of the sports writers for saying we would suck and now it looks like they knew more then we did...

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Cito Pelon Attack at all times . . . Happy dog at the Divide Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AFC West Championshipville Posts: 15,273 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	Shanny is in charge of the chess game, the unit coaches are supposed to be the guys in charge of kicking ass. Obviously, the staff as a whole better decide whether they want to be chess coaches, or football coaches.

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Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,942 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	I didnt see any chess coaches out there Cito. Come to think of it, I didnt see much coaching at all.

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Atlas Draft Defense Early&Often Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 18,526	Shanny better watch out the natives are restless.