I'm behind Shanahan 100%

[Mountainman]

Shanahan hasn't won anything since Elway left. I repeat: Shanahan hasn't won anything since Elway left. Not a playoff game, not a division title, nothing. How many more mediocre seasons do we have to suffer through before you Shanny homers finally say enough is enough.

[broncolife]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

No. According to these two MENSA members, we've got all the talent we need (MountingMen getting on his period about Champ notwithstanding) and are only being held back by poor coaching.

If those are the standards for the current coach, those are the standards for the next coach. He wins now or he deserves to be fired. I didn't set the standard, they did. So let their beloved replacement be judged by it.

I'm still waiting to hear who that replacement should be.

Well they might have had a pretty good arguement with the 6 year thingy, but I dont know about a new coach taking us to the promise land in one year. Tooooooooooooooooooo much change to adjust to in such a short amount of time.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by Mountainman

How do you know that the coaches that I just mentioned won't take the Broncos to the promised land? How many people thought that the Cowboys would win the super bowl under Jimmy Johnson after that 1-15 disaster in 1989?

Or what about Brian Billick when he first came to Baltimore?

My point is that you just don't know what these guys are capable of until you give them a chance.

Either they win immediatly or hiring them was a waste of time. I'm just playing by your rules. That seems to be the criteria for Shanahan in your eyes, so it's the same for whoever steps in next.

Someone sure thought that giving Steve Spurrier a shot was a good idea. I bet you were one of them.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by Mountainman

Shanahan hasn't won anything since Elway left. I repeat: Shanahan hasn't won anything since Elway left. Not a playoff game, not a division title, nothing. How many more mediocre seasons do we have to suffer through before you Shanny homers finally say enough is enough.

How many more posts from front running idiots like yourself do we have to suffer through?

Go be a Skins fan you cooze.

[SoCalBronco]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

How many more posts from front running idiots like yourself do we have to suffer through?

Go be a Skins fan you cooze.

or he can join fellow troll yavoon on the browns bandwagon.

[Mountainman]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Either they win immediatly or hiring them was a waste of time. I'm just playing by your rules. That seems to be the criteria for Shanahan in your eyes, so it's the same for whoever steps in next.

Someone sure thought that giving Steve Spurrier a shot was a good idea. I bet you were one of them.

Shanahan has had 6 years to win at least one friggin playoff game. He hasn't done it.

Shanahan has had 6 years to win the division. He hasn't done it.

Shanahan has had 6 years to prove that he can be one of the league's top coaches without a hall of fame quarterback. He hasn't done it.

Where do you draw the line?

[Mountainman]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

How many more posts from front running idiots like yourself do we have to suffer through?

Go be a Skins fan you cooze.

More mindless drivel from the homer extraordinaire.

[Ratboy]

Originally Posted by Mountainman

Shanahan has had 6 years to win at least one friggin playoff game. He hasn't done it.

Shanahan has had 6 years to win the division. He hasn't done it.

Shanahan has had 6 years to prove that he can be one of the league's top coaches without a hall of fame quarterback. He hasn't done it.

Where do you draw the line?

Good point, I am sick in tired of not winning a playoff game, but im not going to call for his head. i think we need a new OC DC and ST. not a HC!

[Clockwork Orange]

More mindless drivel from the village idiot.

Go gargle Portis' marbles some more you ****ing dullard. That is, if you're done riding trolluride's jock.

[SoCalBronco]

Originally Posted by Mountainman

More mindless drivel .

you complaining about mindless drivel after all the throwup you have posted on the political boards and main boards. Good Grief. We try and make an argument and you respond, just like telluwhore, with "fire shanny". We tell you if u look at the key plays which have made the difference between 7-5 and 10-2 have nothing to do with coaching (i.e. hamilton getting owned on the FG attempt, and yes i can anticipate the argument that isnt that bad coaching, no because previously he hasnt been owned like that on FG attempts so we should we think of replacing him on that unit,.... plummer checking to the fade when the COACHES called what YOU wanted, Brees fumble tumbling off reggie hayward back to Brees, Kelly Herndon being a fraction of a second late in getting his hand below the ball before it hit the ground on KK potential INT for a TD, Q fumbling at Jax) and your response has been just "fire shanny". There is no thought, there is no nothing. This is bull****. As CO has pointed out, the standards you have proposed in essence mean whoever you endorse to be our coach, we better go 12-4 and DEEP in the playoffs from the WORD GO, there is no adjustment period. It is futile to argue with you.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

the standards you have proposed in essence mean whoever you endorse to be our coach, we better go 12-4 and DEEP in the playoffs from the WORD GO, there is no adjustment period. It is futile to argue with you.

Thank you. Someone got the point I was making.

You set the standard, don't try and change it to suit your liking. A new coach comes in here, I expect you to hold his feet to the flames just as you've done with Shanahan.

If you don't, it makes you nothing but a hypocrite.

[broncolife]

Originally Posted by RTribbey

Good point, I am sick in tired of not winning a playoff game, but im not going to call for his head. i think we need a new OC DC and ST. not a HC!

I dont know about a new DC,but I wouldnt mind a new OC and ST coach. Plus, can someone please tell Shanny to stop calling running plays up the damn middle so much .

[Mountainman]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

you complaining about mindless drivel after all the throwup you have posted on the political boards and main boards. Good Grief. We try and make an argument and you respond, just like telluwhore, with "fire shanny". We tell you if u look at the key plays which have made the difference between 7-5 and 10-2 have nothing to do with coaching (i.e. hamilton getting owned on the FG attempt, and yes i can anticipate the argument that isnt that bad coaching, no because previously he hasnt been owned like that on FG attempts so we should we think of replacing him on that unit,.... plummer checking to the fade when the COACHES called what YOU wanted, Brees fumble tumbling off Reggie Hayward back to Brees, Kelly Herndon being a fraction of a second late in getting his hand below the ball before it hit the ground on KK potential INT for a TD, Q fumbling at Jax) and your response has been just "fire shanny". There is no thought, there is no nothing. This is bull****. As CO has pointed out, the standards you have proposed in essence mean whoever you endorse to be our coach, we better go 12-4 and DEEP in the playoffs from the WORD GO, there is no adjustment period. It is futile to argue with you.

You Shanny apologists have been making the same excuses for him for almost 6 years now and it's getting old. Every year for the last 6 years, we have had a different scapegoat and he always gets run out of town while Shanahan refuses to take any of the blame. Anybody who has half a brain knows that it starts at the top. So my question to you is this. When are you going to hold this man accountable?

[Clockwork Orange]

Just as SoCal said, you respond with the same line over and over. Try coming up with an original thought rather than just riding trolluride's coattails.

I'm still waiting for that list of people who will come in here next year and take this team to the Super Bowl.

[SoCalBronco]

Originally Posted by Mountainman

You Shanny apologists have been making the same excuses for him for almost 6 years now and it's getting old. Every year for the last 6 years, we have had a different scapegoat and he always gets run out of town while Shanahan refuses to take any of the blame. Anybody who has half a brain knows that it starts at the top. So my question to you is this. When are you going to hold this man accountable?

God, your IGNORANT BEYOND ****ING BELIEF. Again, its ignore the substantive arguments and just say "Fire shanny" or "your a shanny homer" or "take off the orange and blue glasses". I am providing you with SUBSTANTIVE ****ING ARGUMENTS as to why the chasm between 10-2 and 7-5 is not the fault of the coaches this particular season and i have pointed to the well accepted key plays that really were outcome determinative in the games and why it had nothing to do with coaching and then you respond without addressing them at all.

[Mountainman]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Thank you. Someone got the point I was making.

You set the standard, don't try and change it to suit your liking. A new coach comes in here, I expect you to hold his feet to the flames just as you've done with Shanahan.

If you don't, it makes you nothing but a hypocrite.

If a new coach comes in here, then I will give him 4 years to win at least one playoff game. Something that Shanahan has failed to do ever since Elway retired. My patience with him ran out after last season.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by Mountainman

If a new coach comes in here, then I will give him 4 years to win at least one playoff game. Something that Shanahan has failed to do ever since Elway retired. My patience with him ran out after last season.

Then you're a hypocrite.

[SoCalBronco]

Originally Posted by Mountainman

If a new coach comes in here, then I will give him 4 years to win at least one playoff game. Something that Shanahan has failed to do ever since Elway retired. My patience with him ran out after last season.

you just exposed yourself as a fraud. By definition if we envision this long of a time span as reasonable before winning a playoff game, than basically you are saying we are going to more or less strip it down and start over which we all agree is wrong. Your willing by your admission to wait 4 more years just so long as it is a different body on the sideline, but if i were to tell you not only is shanny not going to win a playoff game this year, but for 4 more years he wont either, you would justifiably go nuts. What a Fraud.

[Mountainman]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

God, your IGNORANT BEYOND ****ING BELIEF. Again, its ignore the substantive arguments and just say "Fire shanny" or "your a shanny homer" or "take off the orange and blue glasses". I am providing you with SUBSTANTIVE ****ING ARGUMENTS as to why the chasm between 10-2 and 7-5 is not the fault of the coaches this particular season and i have pointed to the well accepted key plays that really were outcome determinative in the games and why it had nothing to do with coaching and then you respond without addressing them at all.

Has it ever occured to you that it shouldn't have come down to those plays? If one or two plays decides a game for you, then the gameplan in general was not effective.

[DB-Freak]

I dont think coaching is the problem.

What we have is a good old talent and production problem.

[Mountainman]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

you just exposed yourself as a fraud. By definition if we envision this long of a time span as reasonable before winning a playoff game, than basically you are saying we are going to more or less strip it down and start over which we all agree is wrong. Your willing by your admission to wait 4 more years just so long as it is a different body on the sideline, but if i were to tell you not only is shanny not going to win a playoff game this year, but for 4 more years he wont either, you would justifiably go nuts. What a Fraud.

Listen up, dumb****. I'm said that i'm willing to give another coach 4 years because I know it takes time. It's taken Shanahasbeen 6 ****ing years to win a playoff game or the division for that matter since Elway retired. That is too long. Try to pay attention next time, moron.

[Clockwork Orange]

I think we've got a problem with our execution in crucial situations. The zone defense on 4th & goal against the Fade. Q's fumble in the final minute against Jacksonville. Jake's ill-advised audible that got picked yesterday. The fumble bouncing off of Reggie Hayward yesterday and back to Brees. Hmmmm, funny, I don't see any of those things having anything to do with Shanahan.

But obviously, we're expected to have no close games all year according to MountingMen. If we do, it's all Shanahan's fault because the game plan wasn't good enough.

Ridiculous.

[Mountainman]

Originally Posted by Freekofnature

I dont think coaching is the problem.

What we have is a good old talent and production problem.

Just like we've had for the last 6 years.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by Mountainman

Listen up, dumb****. I'm said that i'm willing to give another coach 4 years because I know it takes time. It's taken Shanahasbeen 6 ****ing years to win a playoff game or the division for that matter since Elway retired. That is too long. Try to pay attention next time, moron.

How surprising, the pinhead repeats the same line yet again. And again. And again. And again

[Mountainman]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

I think we've got a problem with our execution in crucial situations. The zone defense on 4th & goal against the Fade. Q's fumble in the final minute against Jacksonville. Jake's ill-advised audible that got picked yesterday. The fumble bouncing off of Reggie Hayward yesterday and back to Brees. Hmmmm, funny, I don't see any of those things having anything to do with Shanahan.

But obviously, we're expected to have no close games all year according to MountingMen. If we do, it's all Shanahan's fault because the game plan wasn't good enough.

Ridiculous.

What Shanahan's decision to throw a dangerous fade pass instead of keeping it on the ground when we had the ball inside the SD 10 yard line? Especially when our running game was beginning to click.