The October Surprise - The Orange Mane

bendog · 10-11-2004, 01:55 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/11/po...ner=ALTAVISTA1

Crushaholic · 10-11-2004, 02:00 PM

This is hardly a surprise. Kerry's Vietnam record has been debated since he made it a central part of his campaign. The only surprise is there doesn't seem to be people clamoring for "equal time" on this matter...not yet, at least...

Taco John · 10-11-2004, 02:18 PM

What a waste of time and money.

I can't even relate to this attack on Kerry. My understanding of the Vietnam war is that we never should have been there in the first place. So why am I supposed to fault a soldier who DID go there, and came home to protest our involvement?

This whole Vietnam attack on Kerry just doesn't move me.

watermock · 10-11-2004, 02:22 PM

LABF is going to love this one.

Oh they want equal time. How amusing.

azbronco · 10-11-2004, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by watermock

LABF is going to love this one.

Oh they want equal time. How amusing.

As the article states the equal time would be given to Bush and Nader since this documentary shows kerry.

OrangeDoofus · 10-11-2004, 03:02 PM

So, a group that owns 62 television stations across the country is forcing them to show an anti-Kerry documentary a week before the election.

Anyone want to explain that whole "liberal media" thing to me again?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-11-2004, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeDoofus

Anyone want to explain that whole "liberal media" thing to me again?

"Who? Us?"

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-11-2004, 03:29 PM

Two Big “October Surprises” For Bush

On the very day before Donald Rumsfeld paid a surprise visit wearing Paul Bremer's trendy Timberland bootees because they have the same size feet (and brain) to Baghdad to stand before a group of ramrod-stiff soldiers —ordered in advance not to ask “What the **** are we (and you) doing here?”—and conned them into
believing they could probably be going home before the Iraqi election but probably won't until well after the Iraqi election which will be postponed anyway, if then, a group of Marines spilled a can of beans to the Washington Post.

Irrespective of the disturbing fact they actually want to cause more death, destruction, havoc and misery than they already have—because that’s what Marines are trained blindly, unquestioningly and obediently to do—they are openly
second-guessing their superiors. (Or in the case of their Commander in Chief, one of their many obvious superior inferiors.)

http://www.asticles.com/asticles/twobig.htm

Rohirrim · 10-12-2004, 06:13 AM

This gives one of the major networks (probably CBS) the "cover" to show Farenheit.

watermock · 10-12-2004, 06:17 AM

Worst nightmare.

Being Gay and living with LABF.

bendog · 10-12-2004, 07:07 AM

No equal time will NOT be given to Kerry or Nadir. Sinclair's view is that Kerry may appear to refute. Equal time would be requiring Sinclair to run equal time of F-911 or something on BushII's vietnam service and exit from the guard.

What's objectionable is that Sinclair is skirting CFR to provide BushII with free negative advertising, which legally Kerry cannot match. Soros or some RW nut can buy all the time they want, but this is a MEDIA group offering one candidate an advantage.

Rohirrim · 10-12-2004, 07:24 AM

Isn't the FCC run by Colin Powell's brother. It does violate the law, but like everything else in the Bush campaign, don't expect that to be an impediment.

bendog · 10-12-2004, 07:40 AM

I'm not sure it strictly violates the law. It's a new low though.

I read somewhere, maybe in the times link, that one view of Sinclair was that actually they were giving the time to Kerry, so perhaps they should also allow BushII extra time for free. Gotta love that.

W*GS · 10-12-2004, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Isn't the FCC run by Colin Powell's brother.

Colin's son, Michael.

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It does violate the law, but like everything else in the Bush campaign, don't expect that to be an impediment.

What law? The McCain-Feingold 1st-amendment-busting "campaign finance reform" load-o-crap? Note that your buddy Soros pushed very hard for that law.

I wonder when LABF's ire at the rich manipulating the political system is going to extend to Soro's underhanded tactics.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-12-2004, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by W*GS

I wonder when LABF's ire at the rich manipulating the political system is going to extend to Soro's underhanded tactics.

Soros and Sinclair.

Now there's an equation only a hardcore bush supporter like W*GS could make.

BTW, Sinclair's CEO (what's his name?) has a criminal record. He was busted for some sort of perverted public sex acts with a hooker in Baltimore.

Nothing like GOP "family values," eh?

watermock · 10-12-2004, 10:13 PM

Your not addressing Soros whatsoever. Your just ran like a punk.

broncogary · 10-12-2004, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by watermock

Worst nightmare.

Being Gay and living with LABF.

I'd rather be gay.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-12-2004, 10:15 PM

Ah, here we are:

Sinclair Broadcasting's David Smith Busted In Prostitution Sting

David Deniston Smith, president and chief executive officer of Sinclair Broadcast Group Inc., was charged with committing an unnatural and perverted sex act in a company-owned Mercedes. He was arrested in an undercover sting a Read and St. Paul streets, a downtown corner frequented by prostitutes.

Police said Mary DiPaulo, 31, ran across the street to a 1992 Mercedes, registered to Sinclair, and got in on the passenger side. Police followed the car onto the Jones Falls Expressway, where they said they witnessed the two engage in oral sex while Smith drove north.

There are many reference sub-links in these collected sources, see original link: http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004_04_2...35351404593578

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-12-2004, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by watermock

Worst nightmare.

Being Gay and living with LABF.

Well, sounds like only one out of two came true.

broncogary · 10-12-2004, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Police followed the car onto the Jones Falls Expressway, where they said they witnessed the two engage in oral sex while Smith drove north.

How did he keep his eyes on the road. Her ass must have been in his line of sight.

Another credible report by LABF.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-12-2004, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by broncogary

How did he keep his eyes on the road. Her ass must have been in his line of sight.

I'm surprised you don't already know the answer.

All republicans have a direct line to Jesus.

The Lord intervened just before Smith wrapped the car around a tree.

He was simply being rewarded for his examplary adherence to GOP "family values."

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-12-2004, 10:32 PM

broncogary · 10-12-2004, 10:34 PM

[QUOTE=L.A. BRONCOS FAN]All republicans have a direct line to Jesus./QUOTE]

So why do you argue with us?

Stubborn, eh?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-12-2004, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by broncogary

So why do you argue with us?

Um, that bit about the "direct line" was a joke.

errand · 10-12-2004, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeDoofus

So, a group that owns 62 television stations across the country is forcing them to show an anti-Kerry documentary a week before the election.

Anyone want to explain that whole "liberal media" thing to me again?

if they own the stations, then doesn't that mean the stations belong to them, and that these same stations would obligated to do as they are instructed to do?

And like all you libs say when something nauseating and disgusting is being shown on TV or being heard on the radio....change the channel...nobody is forcing you to watch it are they?

BTW, John Kerry was invited to appear on this program, and give his side of the story...he declined. Did General Westmoreland get that same opportunity when Dan Rather ran his staged "documentary" on GI's claiming to have committed atrocities in the Vietnam War?

10-11-2004, 01:55 PM	#1
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	The October Surprise http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/11/po...ner=ALTAVISTA1

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broncogary Horse Player and Dimwit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 5,745	[QUOTE=L.A. BRONCOS FAN]All republicans have a direct line to Jesus./QUOTE] So why do you argue with us? Stubborn, eh? Last edited by broncogary; 10-12-2004 at 10:41 PM..

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10-11-2004, 02:00 PM	#2
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,039	This is hardly a surprise. Kerry's Vietnam record has been debated since he made it a central part of his campaign. The only surprise is there doesn't seem to be people clamoring for "equal time" on this matter...not yet, at least...

10-11-2004, 02:18 PM	#3
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	What a waste of time and money. I can't even relate to this attack on Kerry. My understanding of the Vietnam war is that we never should have been there in the first place. So why am I supposed to fault a soldier who DID go there, and came home to protest our involvement? This whole Vietnam attack on Kerry just doesn't move me.

10-11-2004, 02:22 PM	#4
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	LABF is going to love this one. Oh they want equal time. How amusing.

10-11-2004, 03:02 PM	#6
OrangeDoofus Ring of Famer (nationalchamps.net/Helmet_Project) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 2,318	So, a group that owns 62 television stations across the country is forcing them to show an anti-Kerry documentary a week before the election. Anyone want to explain that whole "liberal media" thing to me again?

10-11-2004, 03:29 PM	#8
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	Two Big “October Surprises” For Bush On the very day before Donald Rumsfeld paid a surprise visit wearing Paul Bremer's trendy Timberland bootees because they have the same size feet (and brain) to Baghdad to stand before a group of ramrod-stiff soldiers —ordered in advance not to ask “What the **** are we (and you) doing here?”—and conned them into believing they could probably be going home before the Iraqi election but probably won't until well after the Iraqi election which will be postponed anyway, if then, a group of Marines spilled a can of beans to the Washington Post. Irrespective of the disturbing fact they actually want to cause more death, destruction, havoc and misery than they already have—because that’s what Marines are trained blindly, unquestioningly and obediently to do—they are openly second-guessing their superiors. (Or in the case of their Commander in Chief, one of their many obvious superior inferiors.) http://www.asticles.com/asticles/twobig.htm

10-12-2004, 06:13 AM	#9
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,791	This gives one of the major networks (probably CBS) the "cover" to show Farenheit.

10-12-2004, 06:17 AM	#10
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Worst nightmare. Being Gay and living with LABF.

10-12-2004, 07:07 AM	#11
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	No equal time will NOT be given to Kerry or Nadir. Sinclair's view is that Kerry may appear to refute. Equal time would be requiring Sinclair to run equal time of F-911 or something on BushII's vietnam service and exit from the guard. What's objectionable is that Sinclair is skirting CFR to provide BushII with free negative advertising, which legally Kerry cannot match. Soros or some RW nut can buy all the time they want, but this is a MEDIA group offering one candidate an advantage.

10-12-2004, 07:24 AM	#12
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,791	Isn't the FCC run by Colin Powell's brother. It does violate the law, but like everything else in the Bush campaign, don't expect that to be an impediment.

10-12-2004, 07:40 AM	#13
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	I'm not sure it strictly violates the law. It's a new low though. I read somewhere, maybe in the times link, that one view of Sinclair was that actually they were giving the time to Kerry, so perhaps they should also allow BushII extra time for free. Gotta love that.

10-12-2004, 10:13 PM	#16
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Your not addressing Soros whatsoever. Your just ran like a punk.

10-12-2004, 10:15 PM	#18
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	Ah, here we are: Sinclair Broadcasting's David Smith Busted In Prostitution Sting David Deniston Smith, president and chief executive officer of Sinclair Broadcast Group Inc., was charged with committing an unnatural and perverted sex act in a company-owned Mercedes. He was arrested in an undercover sting a Read and St. Paul streets, a downtown corner frequented by prostitutes. Police said Mary DiPaulo, 31, ran across the street to a 1992 Mercedes, registered to Sinclair, and got in on the passenger side. Police followed the car onto the Jones Falls Expressway, where they said they witnessed the two engage in oral sex while Smith drove north. There are many reference sub-links in these collected sources, see original link: http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004_04_2...35351404593578

10-12-2004, 10:18 PM	#19
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	Originally Posted by watermock Worst nightmare. Being Gay and living with LABF. Well, sounds like only one out of two came true.

10-12-2004, 10:32 PM	#22
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694