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Old 10-06-2004, 10:12 AM   #2
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That is good news
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Old 10-06-2004, 10:52 AM   #3
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That is great news I am so very glad they had that debate before the dead line.

If I were a betting man, wait a minute I am a betting man, I say these are people rushing to vote against George Bush. I have always had faith in Americans to do the right thing when things are really really crucial. And getting GWB out of the White House is really really crucial. IMO
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or it might be the opposite in many peoples minds

it might be really really crucial to keep a guy with no conviction to fight for anything besides himself out of office.
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Old 10-06-2004, 11:21 AM   #5
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or it might be the opposite in many peoples minds

it might be really really crucial to keep a guy with no conviction to fight for anything besides himself out of office.
Could be but seems to go against human nature to be motivated by political apathy. I think it is fear driven, secret is to know what the fear is.
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Old 10-06-2004, 11:26 AM   #6
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Or it might be that the majority of young voters are stepping up to dump the chump who thinks outsourcing the jobs they intended to fill, is a great idea!
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Could be but seems to go against human nature to be motivated by political apathy. I think it is fear driven, secret is to know what the fear is.
well if it's younger people, they might of gotten scared by the Dems dirty trick of trying to convince the slackers there would be a draft.........

if it's older people, it might be fear of terroism, which would help Bush

I think think it's a little of both.
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Or it might be that the majority of young voters are stepping up to dump the chump who thinks outsourcing the jobs they intended to fill, is a great idea!
I thought you hated this forum and told us all to stop posting here
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I'm sure if I agreed with your beliefs, you would'nt have even remembered my previous post.
Read my lips: Bush has done enough damage, we can't afford 4 more years of his policies. I don't agree with passing the bills on to my children. Spending and cutting taxes does'nt add up in my book!

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I'm sure if I agreed with your beliefs, you would'nt have even remembered my previous post.
Read my lips: Bush has done enough damage, we can't afford 4 more years of his policies. I don't agree with passing the bills on to my children. Spending and cutting taxes does'nt add up in my book!
So you'll be opting out of your Social Security?
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I'm sure if I agreed with your beliefs, you would'nt have even remembered my previous post.
Read my lips: Bush has done enough damage, we can't afford 4 more years of his policies. I don't agree with passing the bills on to my children. Spending and cutting taxes does'nt add up in my book!
no...your hate filled one or two line rhetoric is too much......at least the other B.H. crew has some interesting takes.
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So you'll be opting out of your Social Security?
How much has the war in Iraq cost us to date? Now add another for years of this horse****, then add the cost of re-building a nation and then the cost of an occupational force for a decade or two! Meanwhile the homefront can go to hell as far as George is concerned.
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How much has the war in Iraq cost us to date? Now add another for years of this horse****, then add the cost of re-building a nation and then the cost of an occupational force for a decade or two! Meanwhile the homefront can go to hell as far as George is concerned.
How did isolationism work out for Woodrow Wilson?

Yup, the Marshall plan was an expensive endeavor as well, would you suggest that was a bad idea too? Maybe we should have left all of Germany to the Soviets. The Cold War was expensive, should we have thrown in the towel on that as well? How are Japan and Europe doing today? Have you heard? Can you hear me all the way back there in 1916?
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All partisan stuff aside, I think it's great to see more people taking an interest in taking the first step toward exercising their right to vote.

It will be interesting to see what percentage of the registered people actually turn out to vote.

I think the increased numbers are due to several factors. The fact that the last election was so close is probably the biggest one. Maybe people think they have more of a chance of having their vote count. Hard to tell, but it appears that the upswing is particularly high in "battleground" states.
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All partisan stuff aside, I think it's great to see more people taking an interest in taking the first step toward exercising their right to vote.

It will be interesting to see what percentage of the registered people actually turn out to vote.

I think the increased numbers are due to several factors. The fact that the last election was so close is probably the biggest one. Maybe people think they have more of a chance of having their vote count. Hard to tell, but it appears that the upswing is particularly high in "battleground" states.
Getting people to register is the easy part. Dragging their sorry asses to the polls to exercise that right is a different story. 38% turnout nationwide. And that'll be high.
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Getting people to register is the easy part. Dragging their sorry asses to the polls to exercise that right is a different story. 38% turnout nationwide. And that'll be high.
this thread reminds me of the episode of the simpsons when homer started taking medical marijuana and all the stoners held a rally a day late and forgot to vote to keep it legalized.
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this thread reminds me of the episode of the simpsons when homer started taking medical marijuana and all the stoners held a rally a day late and forgot to vote to keep it legalized.
That was awesome. "I can blow smoke right in the President's big stupid face and he would just have to sit there groooovin' on it"
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All partisan stuff aside, I think it's great to see more people taking an interest in taking the first step toward exercising their right to vote.

It will be interesting to see what percentage of the registered people actually turn out to vote.

I think the increased numbers are due to several factors. The fact that the last election was so close is probably the biggest one. Maybe people think they have more of a chance of having their vote count. Hard to tell, but it appears that the upswing is particularly high in "battleground" states.
Agreed , Win or lose , when you vote ,you are doing your duty as a citizen , besides when you do vote , you earn the right to biatch and complaign about the current administration ..............
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Agreed , Win or lose , when you vote ,you are doing your duty as a citizen , besides when you do vote , you earn the right to biatch and complaign about the current administration ..............
There are people have died and are continuing to die for the right to vote. Not doing so is pretty disrespectful to those who came before.
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There are people have died and are continuing to die for the right to vote. Not doing so is pretty disrespectful to those who came before.
Thats true , People have been dying for 200 years in defense of our freedom ... So many reasons to vote , Cant think of one for not voting .....
I live in the Conserivtive armpit , The south , or the Heartland have nothing on Wyoming ,Majority of the people here see an R beside the guys names ....They will vote for him doesnt matter if it was Hitler .....So I know my vote drowns in a sea of Republican votes , but I still vote , knowing full well Wyoming will vote for Bush ..........
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I'm sure if I agreed with your beliefs, you would'nt have even remembered my previous post.
Read my lips: Bush has done enough damage, we can't afford 4 more years of his policies. I don't agree with passing the bills on to my children. Spending and cutting taxes does'nt add up in my book!


TN with the reality check.
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I don't agree with passing the bills on to my children. Spending and cutting taxes does'nt add up in my book!
Problem is that Kerry won't spend any less - he just wants to move the increased government spending into other areas, so the debt will continue to climb.

I understand the need to for some increased spending on security and national defense after 9/11 - too many of our institutions tasked with those duties were poorly prepared for the threat of truly horrific international terrorism directed against the US itself. One could argue that they (NSA, CIA, FBI, DoD, etc) had enough money, they weren't just spending it properly. That could be true.

However, one of my bigger beefs with Bush is his sop to the geezers with the Medicare prescription drug benefit (hundreds of billions in costs), as well as the sops to the agricultural, steel, and other industries with subsidies and trade protectionism. Fiscal conservatives cannot be happy with Bush and with the GOP control of the House.
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However, one of my bigger beefs with Bush is his sop to the geezers with the Medicare prescription drug benefit (hundreds of billions in costs), as well as the sops to the agricultural, steel, and other industries with subsidies and trade protectionism. Fiscal conservatives cannot be happy with Bush and with the GOP control of the House.
I agree with your observations, but isn't it ironic that the guy demonized in your avatar and his administration were more fiscally conservative than the bush junta?
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Could be but seems to go against human nature to be motivated by political apathy. I think it is fear driven, secret is to know what the fear is.
you are correct FEAR is what motavates people these days!
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If I were a betting man, wait a minute I am a betting man, I say these are people rushing to vote against George Bush. I have always had faith in Americans to do the right thing when things are really really crucial. And getting GWB out of the White House is really really crucial. IMO


Edwards wins

Once again, everyone agrees.

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