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Old 09-17-2004, 05:17 AM   #1
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September 16, 2004
A Sign of the Times

In the photo below, three-year-old Sophia Parlock cries while sitting on her father's shoulders. Her Bush-Cheney sign was grabbed by Democratic thugs and ripped to pieces, reducing the child to tears. We are picking up more and more reports of this kind of behavior by Democrats on the campaign trail. A week or two ago, this partisan violence, once unheard of in Minnesota politics, occurred at the Minnesota State Fair when Democratic thugs roughed up a couple of Republican college students.





The Democrats' violent tactics don't seem to be doing them much good, however, as the latest Gallup poll has the President leading by fourteen points. That isn't right, of course, but it indicates how the race is going, and why Kerry supporters are increasingly resorting to violence.
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Let's see, some jerk rips up some sign because he's a moron - and all the Democrats are to blame - Welcome to Exile's World of Logic.
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Hey it's for brevity sake, just like newspapers would make a headline. So the world I'm living in is the same as journalists.

Just like if Bush vetoed a 'civil rights bill' the headline would say, Bush is against civil rights...Everyone with a modicum of sense would know Bush isn't against civil rights. Just as anyone with a modicum of sense that I didn't say all kerry supporters were violent. Get a clue.
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It's a shame that some stupid Kerry supporters can't take political opposition and try and oppress others with physical violenc
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Yeah, because at the rallies I've been at I've never had a Bush supporter throw stuff at me, or spit at me, or push me.

Get real Exile. In no way am I excusing what they did, but it's both sides.
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Could this be staged? Doubtful, but apparently this guy has a history of staging stuff like this to get national attention for his causes:

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If you read the news on the ‘net last night, undoubtedly you came across a couple of very disturbing photographs, which were carried by AP and featured on Yahoo news, and which later found their way to Drudge Report and many internet web logs and discussion boards:





Photo caption: Sophia Parlock, 3, cries while seated on the shoulders of her father, Phil Parlock, a supporter of President Bush (news - web sites), after a Bush-Cheney sign she and her father were holding was torn up by another person standing in the crowd that had gathered to greet Democratic vice presidential nominee Sen. John Edwards (news - web sites), D-N.C., Thursday, Sept. 16, 2004, at the Tri-State Airport in Huntington, W.Va. At right, is Alex Parlock, 11, Sophia's brother. (AP Photo/Randy Snyder)

At the Democratic Underground forum, Several people expressed skepticism about the photos, and they did a little internet research. After reading what these DUers uncovered, it appears that Phil Parlock has a near decade-long history of “victimhood,” which he incited by taking his children to Democratic rallies and creating skirmishes—the stories about which have been reported in two West Virginia newspapers.

In 1996, Phil Parlock attended a Bill Clinton-Democratic rally in Huntington, West Virginia, not to support Clinton, but to display his anti-Clinton sign. According to a 27 August 1996 article in the Charleston, West Virginia, Daily
Mail:

They obtained their tickets by promising those at Democratic headquarters they would be having signs during the president's visit, but they did not reveal their signs would be in support of Dole. "Clinton thinks he can just come here to Huntington and get a crowd, but we're here to show not all West Virginians share Clinton's values," said [Clint] Gillespie, a senior at Marshall University. "We always try to give them a warm Republican welcome," said [Robert] Painter, a recent graduate of Marshall University.
Phil Parlock's experience was less calm. The Huntington man said he was knocked to the ground by a Clinton supporter when he tried to display a sign that read "Remember Vince Foster," the deputy White House counsel who committed suicide in a Washington, D.C., park. His death has become the
subject of much debate among Clinton opponents."It must have been a strict Democrat who did this," Parlock said, feeling the red abrasions on his face. "Everyone with the exception of him was real peaceful about our protest." Parlock said some of the crowd tried to make other anti-Clinton demonstrators feel unwelcome. He estimated that about 150 Dole supporters attended the rally, but their signs couldn't be seen for most of the rally. "I came to show that not everyone from Huntington is going to vote for
Clinton," Parlock said. (1)

Parlock’s confrontational, anti-Democratic demonstrations did not end as Clinton’s presidency came to a conclusion. During the 2000 presidential campaign, Parlock escalated his protests and even kept his son home from school to join him. Parlock, who worked for the Bush-Cheney 2000 campaign, and his then twelve-year-old son Louis smuggled 16 pro-Bush signs into a Gore rally in West Virginia: they stuffed the posters into their shirts and socks to sneak them in, even though the rally tickets that granted them entrance said that no signs would be allowed. Inside the rally, Parlock and his son
unfurled their Republican signs and ended up in a scuffle with United Mine Workers—supporters of Gore—who took the father-son duo’s signs away from them. According to a 28 October 2000 article in the Charleston Daily News:

Parlock said after all his signs were stolen, he got some more from a group of Bush supporters who had not been allowed into the rally. Though police said they were not ready to make official comment Friday evening, earlier Friday an officer said he had seen a scuffle during the rally. Charleston Police Patrolman R.H. Vinyard said the incident involved people with Bush-Cheney signs, though he could not identify them by name. He said Gore supporters got into a fight with the Bush supporters about 10 minutes before the
end of Gore's speech. He said the altercation lasted about 45 seconds, was over before the police arrived to break it up and no one was treated for injuries. Afterward, he said, the Bush supporters tore up their own signs and left the area.

As workers cleaned up the debris from the rally in front of the Capitol after the rally, Parlock sat next to a pile of ripped up Bush-Cheney signs he had collected. He said he thought the people who took his signs went too far. Still, he said he'd do it again. And he thinks it was a good educational experience for [his son] Louis, too. "You can't get this kind of a lesson in school," he said. (2)

Flash forward to 16 September 2004. Same situation, different place, different children—after all, Parlock only has a brood of ten children from which to choose to accompany him on his missions. At an Edwards rally yesterday in West Virginia, Parlock once again showed up, this time with his
three-year-old daughter perched on his shoulders and his eleven-year-old son by his side. Supposedly, the daughter and displayed held their Bush-Cheney signs, only to have the placards viciously ripped from their tender young fingers by an evil Democratic oppressor—a member of the International
Union of Painters and Allied Trades. (Funny how those union members are always handy to take Parlock and his progeny’s signs away!)

According to Parlock, in a description of the scuffle that in the Washington, DC, Times yesterday, “They just pounced on us. She was crying; they were pushing and shoving her. She was scared.” (3)

As the little girl’s photo circulated the internet, many members of Democratic Underground questioned the incident. After scouring the internet, they discovered that the photographer, Randy Snyder, who captured the image of the crying toddler, is chief photo editor of one newspaper that has frequently featured Phil Parlock’s conservative activism and interned with another newspaper that carried article about Parlock. Therefore, the photograph was not just a lucky shot by some AP photographer who happened to witness
the ugly scene. Could Snyder and Parlock have planned the nasty shot? Could they have been working in collusion? Would a true journalist stoop so low? (4)

But there’s an additional twist—a twist that demonstrates just how twisted men like Parlock can be. One very perceptive DUer found a photograph of the Parlock clan on the internet—at the Herald-Dispatch website, which employs
camerabug Snyder—and she noticed that one of the older sons bears a striking resemblance to the union worker who accosted Parlock’s shouldered daughter:

The Parlock clan:


A comparison of the “union worker” and the Parlock son:


And, to demonstrate the familial similarities, a comparison of the “union worker” and Phil Parlock:


Seems too surreal to be true, doesn’t it? And it leaves the discriminating reader with many questions: Why would a man who understands the volatility of political rallies bring his children along, when he himself has been injured in scuffles at them? Were the people who “assaulted” Parlock at earlier rallies actually friends or family who assisted him in his quest for attention? Why would a man who supports the Republican family-values platform endanger his children, unless they never were endangered, because every single battle had been staged, with a reporter or photographer near.

With little doubt, when Phil Parlock saw his tearful daughter’s photograph on news sites last night, he knew he had hit the motherlode of activism. How could anyone not pity the tearful baby-doll sitting on his shoulders, holding
the clean remnants of a sign just snatched from her grasp by a Neanderthal union worker? However, in his attempt to discredit Democratic Kerry-Edwards supporters, Parlock just might have invited scrutiny of his actions—last night, and in the previous two presidential election cycles. At the very least, he should come forward to answer the questions that are being posed—questions that damage his own credibility today and over the past decade.

Notes:

1. Associated Press, “Dole Supporters Find it Rough at
Clinton Party,” Charleston, West Virginia, Daily Mail, 27
August 1996, 3C. Available on Lexis Nexis database,
accessed 16 September 2004.

2. Sam Tranum, “Signs for Bush Taken at Rally, Father, Son
Say,” Charleston, West Virginia, Daily Mail, 28 October 2000,
1A. Available on Lexis Nexis database, accessed 16
September 2004

3. Robert Stacy McClain, “Democrats Accused of Ripping Bush
Signs,” Washington DC Times, available on the internet at:
<
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040917-010155-8041r.htm>

4. Randy Snyder, photography editor, brief bio available at
< http://www.sportsshooter.com/members.html?id=236>


Written by jchild, 17 September 2004
DU investigators include, but are not limited to:
rezmutt (uncovered the Lexis Nexis articles that demonstrate
Parlock's history of confrontationalism at Democratic events)
girl gone mad (photo comparisons of "union worker"
and Parlock son at 16 September 2004 event)

Here is the thread that shows the fruit of this research:

http://www.democraticunderground.com...mesg_id=828458
OK, now I will prepare for the flood of posts by Mock that will undoubtedly follow this, even though no one said anything to him. I'm betting he'll top his previous record and go with 6 consecutive posts without someone else saying something.
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Actually it's more prevalent on the dems side. Compare the Conventions. How many republicans actually protested at the DNC. Probabbly very few. Contrasts with Dems and lefties protesting at the RNC, delegates or even anyone in a suit approaching the convention center beinbg spat upon, having objects thrown at them.

How many republican unions regularily are used as thugs by the Republicans? Are there republican unions, even?

There are incidents of violence by both sides, but it's usually a dem or leftist perpetuating the violence.
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you're quoting Democratic Underground? The place where Bush is regularily compared to hitler?

That place is violence ready to break out. You can't even post there unless you're a koolaid drinker. Talk about unable to take opposing views, at least here, everyone can have their say. DU is not a reliable source to quote anything.
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What kind of low-life does that to a little girl...the shame...If I saw it happen I'd beat that person within an inch.
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I visit DU at least 4-5 times a week to get my fill of hatred. It's amazing how much vitriol is contained in that site.

I wonder how much better that place would be if they allowed dissenting opinions.
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So Nuggets4 it's okay for someone to physically assault the dad and his little girl because the guy might be a political activist?

It's okay to attack the little girl because the dad is a republican?
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Could this be staged? Doubtful, but apparently this guy has a history of staging stuff like this to get national attention for his causes:



OK, now I will prepare for the flood of posts by Mock that will undoubtedly follow this, even though no one said anything to him. I'm betting he'll top his previous record and go with 6 consecutive posts without someone else saying something.
A picture is worth a thousand words. Thanks, Nuggets. Anybody who doesn't see the resemblence between Parlock and that "Union Worker" is living in Bush's little "fantasy world of spin," as Kerry put it. Man, the guy puts his children in harm's way for that bs? I guess this new world is teaching us new rules - like, zealotry has no boundaries.
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So Nuggets4 it's okay for someone to physically assault the dad and his little girl because the guy might be a political activist?

It's okay to attack the little girl because the dad is a republican?
Don't you get it, Exile? The guy carrying the little girl got his son to dress up like a union worker and rip the sing out of her hands for a photo op. Somewhere, Karl Rove is applauding.
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man, conspiracy theories rule the democratic party lately
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man, conspiracy theories rule the democratic party lately

Rumor has it that it was the Bush Family who arranged the assassination of JFK. Think about it. Kennedy was in Dallas. The Bush Family is from Texas. eerie...

more:

JFK was a Democrat. - The Bush Family Republican. SPOOOOOOOOKY

There are 7 letters in "kennedy" - there are 4 letters in "Bush". If you add 1 to 7 and divide by 2 - you get 4!!! How many Kennedy's were assassinated? 2! CREEEEEEPY.

Can I join Mr. Heinz - Kerry's Campaign Team?
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I am stealing bandwidth? Man that was some good annoying programming. Anyway, who cares about this. My brothers are dieing in Iraq, and Bush refuses to talk about it, and tries to suppress the truth....

ie his stance on the 911 commission, his minimal amount of press conferences, his idiotic takes on greenhouse effects.

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So Nuggets4 it's okay for someone to physically assault the dad and his little girl because the guy might be a political activist?

It's okay to attack the little girl because the dad is a republican?
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In no way am I excusing what they did
Come on, reading is FUNdamental!

If DU is the site full of hatred, I'd hate to see what the Freep is. Good God.
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Could this be staged? Doubtful, but apparently this guy has a history of staging stuff like this to get national attention for his causes:
Good work, Nuggets4. Considering that the guy has a history of getting into these situations during presidential campaigns, and the striking resemblance of the "union protester" to members of his own family, I think you're being pretty generous in saying it's "doubtful" the incident was staged.

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OK, now I will prepare for the flood of posts by Mock that will undoubtedly follow this, even though no one said anything to him. I'm betting he'll top his previous record and go with 6 consecutive posts without someone else saying something.
Oh, if you wanted to get the full mock treatment you should have included some praise for Q and some critical comments about the Vikings. With the material you already have, that would have gotten you a 7-8 post run, minimum.
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Come on, reading is FUNdamental!

If DU is the site full of hatred, I'd hate to see what the Freep is. Good God.

I dunno, I rarely go to Free Republic, it's got it's share of whackos too.
But as far as pure haterd, DU has few peers, except maybe Moveon.org and Indymedia.
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Actually it's more prevalent on the dems side. Compare the Conventions. How many republicans actually protested at the DNC. Probabbly very few. Contrasts with Dems and lefties protesting at the RNC, delegates or even anyone in a suit approaching the convention center beinbg spat upon, having objects thrown at them.

How many republican unions regularily are used as thugs by the Republicans? Are there republican unions, even?

There are incidents of violence by both sides, but it's usually a dem or leftist perpetuating the violence.






http://www.actupny.org/reports/rnc_nyc-kicking.mov

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this is interesting...

if the event was staged by the Parlock family and some here have uses DU sources to imply that the union member was a Parlock family member, why would the Union issue an apology?

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/

Union Apologizes for Assault on 3-Year Old

The president of The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades has issued an apology for the thuggish behavior of one of their members, who terrorized a three-year old girl yesterday at a rally for John Edwards: IUPAT: News & Events. (Hat tip: H.D. Miller.)

The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades believes in the fundamental right for civil discourse, freedom of speech and activism to support our candidates and issues.

What happened in Huntington, West Virginia yesterday is an affront to everything we, as a union, pride ourselves to represent. We extend our apologies to the Parlock family, especially Sophia, for the distress one of our overzealous members caused them.

I have personally taken steps to address this issue internally, and will take immediate disciplinary action to the full extent allowed under U.S. Department of Labor regulations and the constitution of the International Union of Painters and Allied Trades.

It is my hope that this incident reminds all of our members that every last citizen in this country has the right to express his or herself freely. Not one single one of us has the right to tell them otherwise.

General President James A. Williams
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again from little green footballs.

Kerry Fans vs. 3-Year Old, Part 2

In a typically vulgar and hate-filled message thread in the left wing fever swamp (Democratic Underground), the claim is made that this AP photograph of a three-year old girl being assaulted by Kerry supporters was “staged” by a “serial disrupter,” and that the thug in the union shirt is actually his son: IMPORTANT!!! The Rethug w/ Little Girl — PULLED SAME SH*T IN 2000!!! (Multiple exclamation points add such gravitas to an announcement, don’t you think?)

Please note: interviewed on the Glenn Beck radio show, Phil Parlock categorically denied that the person in the photos holding a piece of a torn sign is his son. And the attempts to “prove” it at Democratic Underground are laughable. If some real evidence shows up to support this claim, I’ll be sure to take note of it.

But the prevailing belief in the fever swamps seems to be that if you show up at a Democratic rally with a “Rethuglican” sign, you deserve anything that happens to you. Or to your children.

UPDATE at 9/17/04 9:43:19 am:

In a second AP photo of the incident, you can see the thug’s union buddies pushing him away from the cameras, as others rush in with signs to block the view of the crying little girl (hat tip: freedomsound):
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hmmm the Union boss apologizes. Maybe the Republicans paid him off? rofl.
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Couple arrested at Bush event sues federal officials


By JENNIFER BUNDY
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Published September 14, 2004

CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- A couple arrested for wearing anti-Bush T-shirts to the president's July 4 appearance at the West Virginia Capitol filed a federal lawsuit Tuesday alleging their First Amendment rights were violated.

Nicole and Jeff Rank were removed from the event in handcuffs after revealing T-shirts with President Bush's name crossed out on the front. Nicole' Rank's shirt had the words "Love America, Hate Bush" on the back and Jeff Rank's had "Regime change starts at home" on the back.

























Their lawsuit was filed in federal court by American Civil Liberties Union attorneys. It names Gregory Jenkins, deputy assistant to the president and director of the White House Office of Presidential Advance; and W. Ralph Basham, director of the U.S. Secret Service, as defendants.

"What is at stake here transcends politics," Jeff Rank said at a news conference at the Capitol. "What is at stake is the right of all Americans--Democrats, Republicans and Independents, all Americans--to peacefully voice their dissent to their government."

The couple wants a judge to declare unconstitutional any policy that led to their arrest. They also are seeking unspecified monetary damages for emotional harm they suffered.

A spokesman for the U.S. Department of Justice, to whom a White House spokesman directed questions, did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment.

"We don't comment on ongoing litigation," said Charles Bopp, a spokesman for the Secret Service.

Trespassing charges filed against the couple by Charleston police officers after they were removed from the event were later dismissed because a municipal judge determined city trespassing ordinances do not apply to Statehouse grounds. City Council and Mayor Danny Jones have publicly apologized to the Ranks.

Jones, a Republican, has said the police officers who arrested the Ranks were told to do so by Secret Service agents.

Bopp had previously said his agency did not direct the arrests.

The ACLU filed a federal lawsuit last September against the Secret Service, seeking an injunction against the Bush administration for segregating protesters at his public appearances. The Secret Service agreed to stop the practice.

Bush's appearance in West Virginia was an official visit and not a campaign event.

The lawsuit said the Ranks obtained free tickets to the July 4 event. Information they received with the tickets specified items they were not allowed to bring such as coolers and lawn chairs, but did not say anything about clothing. Nicole Rank received an e-mail at work that said, "there is no specified dress code."

Jeff Rank said he and his wife wore the T-shirts because, "When you see the president speak on TV he is usually shown surrounded by fervent supporters only. While we wanted to hear him out and while we wanted to see him in person, we did not want to be added to the tally of Bush supporters that day."

They were not shouting or heckling, did not lay down in protest and did not resist arrest, Jeff Rank said.

While the Ranks were put in handcuffs, fingerprinted and spent two hours in jail, other people at the event who wore Bush campaign T-shirts and buttons were not bothered, said Andrew Schneider, the executive director of the ACLU in West Virginia.

"Presidents cannot be insulated from dissent," Schneider said.

Although Nicole Rank, 30 and a registered Democrat, initially was dismissed from her job with the Federal Emergency Management Agency, she was rehired after the charges were dropped. She now is on an assignment in Richmond, Va.

The Ranks had been living in Corpus Christi, Texas, and were in West Virginia because of Nicole Rank's FEMA assignment. They have since moved to Charleston.

Jeff Rank, 29 and a registered Republican, is a math and science tutor at the University of Charleston.
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