Grade my FF draft - The Orange Mane

kappys · 08-28-2004, 04:31 PM

$120 to the points leader and $120 to the overall champ. I think I hae a shot at both.

12 teams, 13 rounds, pick #3

1) Ahman Green
2) Terrell Owens
3) Chad Johnson
4) Trent Green
5) Quentin Griffin
6) Brandon Lloyd
7) Tyrone Wheatley
8) Lee Suggs
9) Donald Driver
10) Ryan Longwell
11) David Carr
12) Ten Def
13) Marcus Pollard

Any thoughts?

TheManeMan · 08-28-2004, 04:36 PM

Not a bad team...I have my money league draft tomorrow...its a 10 teamer, and I pick 3rd...basically if I leave the confrence room tomorrow with your team, I'd be more than happy...Although the Q pick I might pass on...coming up on TO in the 2nd is what I'm hoping for...Donald Driver is a sleeper...most people have Javon Walker and Ferguson in front of him but, Driver had a poor, injury ridden season last year...Good pick on that...Suggs, and Wheatley...potential trade bait...Suggs actually might end up as your # 2....Brandon Lloyd is a gread pick too...****...12 teams, mine is 10 and I think I'm set...

DONKEYSHOW · 08-28-2004, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kappys

$120 to the points leader and $120 to the overall champ. I think I hae a shot at both.

12 teams, 13 rounds, pick #3

1) Ahman Green
2) Terrell Owens
3) Chad Johnson
4) Trent Green
5) Quentin Griffin
6) Brandon Lloyd
7) Tyrone Wheatley
8) Lee Suggs
9) Donald Driver
10) Ryan Longwell
11) David Carr
12) Ten Def
13) Marcus Pollard

Any thoughts?

Looks pretty strong at RB. 3rd WR needs help. But what can you expect in 12 team league. I like the Lloyd pick. He should have a productive season provided Rattay is healthy.
Nice Job.

kappys · 08-28-2004, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CB-Champ24

Not a bad team...I have my money league draft tomorrow...its a 10 teamer, and I pick 3rd...basically if I leave the confrence room tomorrow with your team, I'd be more than happy...Although the Q pick I might pass on...coming up on TO in the 2nd is what I'm hoping for...Donald Driver is a sleeper...most people have Javon Walker and Ferguson in front of him but, Driver had a poor, injury ridden season last year...Good pick on that...Suggs, and Wheatley...potential trade bait...Suggs actually might end up as your # 2....Brandon Lloyd is a gread pick too...****...12 teams, mine is 10 and I think I'm set...

I'm pretty happy with Q in the 5th. I figure that if he falters either Wheatley(behind a monster O-line) or Suggs should be able to take over.

I think Driver will beat out Ferguson for the #2 spot. Him and Farve had some great chemistry before he got hurt, I think he was like a top 15 receiver pick last year.

kappys · 08-28-2004, 04:42 PM

I'm happy with my WR's though. I have two top notch guys. Its hard to get a 3rd stud with a 12 team league as donkeyshow mentioned. I also really like my trent green pick up.

TheManeMan · 08-28-2004, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kappys

I'm pretty happy with Q in the 5th. I figure that if he falters either Wheatley(behind a monster O-line) or Suggs should be able to take over.

I think Driver will beat out Ferguson for the #2 spot. Him and Farve had some great chemistry before he got hurt, I think he was like a top 15 receiver pick last year.

Yeah, I'm sure with Q you really didnt have too many other options...I'm just not sold on Q...but, like you said Tyrone or Lee will help out, if Q were happen to be a bust, if he does pan out they your riding high....You have depth at RB...you'll be fine...Your 100% right on Driver...shhhhhhhhhh

orange crusher · 08-28-2004, 04:45 PM

I think you have a shot. I've never been in a twelve team league (always ten), but it seems like you did alright for that many teams.

TheManeMan · 08-28-2004, 04:46 PM

I forgot to mention David Carr too...he should be a solid backup to TrINT...

DONKEYSHOW · 08-28-2004, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kappys

I'm happy with my WR's though. I have two top notch guys. Its hard to get a 3rd stud with a 12 team league as donkeyshow mentioned. I also really like my Trent Green pick up.

CB,
Get T.O. early! He went 4 picks after Moss at 15 in my 12 teamer last night.

TheManeMan · 08-28-2004, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DONKEYSHOW

CB,
Get T.O. early! He went 4 picks after Moss at 15 in my 12 teamer last night.

Well I have the 3rd and the 18th picks...3rd will probably Ahman, and I'm hoping to pick up TO at 18...I doubt he lasts but, if he does it'll take 2 seconds for me to put TO in the draft box...

DONKEYSHOW · 08-28-2004, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CB-Champ24

Well I have the 3rd and the 18th picks...3rd will probably Ahman, and I'm hoping to pick up TO at 18...I doubt he lasts but, if he does it'll take 2 seconds for me to put TO in the draft box...

Yep, and Holt doesnt look that great this yr due to the horrors at Oline in St Louis. Bulgers gonna get creamed. If Pace comes back that should help some. Moss, and TO are It! If theyre gone when you pick at 18 I would go with Hasselbeck, or another RB IMHO.

orange crusher · 08-28-2004, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DONKEYSHOW

Yep, and Holt doesnt look that great this yr due to the horrors at Oline in St Louis. Bulgers gonna get creamed. If Pace comes back that should help some. Moss, and TO are It! If theyre gone when you pick at 18 I would go with Hasselbeck, or another RB IMHO.

Holt looked pretty good in last night's game.

kappys · 08-28-2004, 05:30 PM

Don't forget about Marvin though. In my draft Moss, then Marvin, then Holt went first. Then I took TO, and the next guy got Hines Ward.

kappys · 08-28-2004, 05:34 PM

I should mention that this league gives 1 point / 15 yards, and 0.5 points per reception. So guys like Ahman, and possible Q are good receivers. LT had a monster year last year in our league thanks to the 100 catches.

DONKEYSHOW · 08-28-2004, 05:35 PM

who were the QBs left on the board when you took Trent?

chanesaw · 08-28-2004, 06:02 PM

Great team, I don't know about Trent Green though.

TheManeMan · 08-28-2004, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kappys

I should mention that this league gives 1 point / 15 yards, and 0.5 points per reception. So guys like Ahman, and possible Q are good receivers. LT had a monster year last year in our league thanks to the 100 catches.

Thats cool...same here...but its 10 yards per point and .5 for receptions...

kappys · 08-28-2004, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DONKEYSHOW

who were the QBs left on the board when you took Trent?

The ones who had gone were Manning, Daunte, Hasselbach, Mcnabb, Vick, and Mcnair.

I had a choice between Green, Farve, Pennington. They all went in short order.

DrFate · 08-28-2004, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kappys

$120 to the points leader and $120 to the overall champ. I think I hae a shot at both.

12 teams, 13 rounds, pick #3

1) Ahman Green
2) Terrell Owens
3) Chad Johnson
4) Trent Green
5) Quentin Griffin
6) Brandon Lloyd
7) Tyrone Wheatley
8) Lee Suggs
9) Donald Driver
10) Ryan Longwell
11) David Carr
12) Ten Def
13) Marcus Pollard

Any thoughts?

I'd bet money Owens will disappoint you this year. He won't match his SF numbers with McNabb throwing him the ball. I like Johnson and draft him when I can. Barring injury Johnson will outscore Owens as a fantasy player this year - write it down and then check back after the season.

DONKEYSHOW · 08-28-2004, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kappys

The ones who had gone were Manning, Daunte, Hasselbach, Mcnabb, Vick, and Mcnair.

I had a choice between Green, Farve, Pennington. They all went in short order.

tough call, but Pennington sure looks good. I guess theyre all pretty close when you get to that point in the draft.

Big Country · 08-28-2004, 06:23 PM

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but can you guys tell me how my team is looking or what area I need to work on?

QB's--Matt Hasselbeck, Carson Palmer
RB's--Ahman Green, Stephen Davis, Michael Bennet, and Brian Westbrook
WR's--Torry Holt, Chris Chambers, Javon Walker, Darrell Jackson
TE's--Todd Heap, Randy McMichael
K--Olindo Mare and someone else
D--Denver and Jacksonville

By the way, Kappys, your team is looking good.

MileHighMania · 08-29-2004, 05:55 AM

4) Trent Green
11) David Carr
I'm not sold on Carr as a backup, but Green is a nice option.

1) Ahman Green
5) Quentin Griffin
7) Tyrone Wheatley
8) Lee Suggs
Green is power - and you have 3 nice hopefuls. I think Suggs will surprise many this season and do very well. If he and Griffin step up, you are golden!

2) Terrell Owens
3) Chad Johnson
6) Brandon Lloyd
9) Donald Driver
Top two picks are extremely nice. Lloyd is a top sleeper option (much like Suggs) and Driver should be consistent.

13) Marcus Pollard
Nice veteran, but he will lose time and scoring options to Dallas Clark.

10) Ryan Longwell
Solid.

12) Ten Def
Solid.
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Very nice team - no glaring weak spots other than your depth at RB. I'm not sold on Wheatley being a 20 carry / 17 game RB. Griffin and Suggs are not proven, but appear to be the lead horses for their teams and if they do well, you are set.

MileHighMania · 08-29-2004, 05:59 AM

Big Country,

QB's--Matt Hasselbeck, Carson Palmer
As mentioned earlier, Matt will have a super 2004 and if Carson is the guy they hope he is, you are set here.

RB's--Ahman Green, Stephen Davis, Michael Bennet, and Brian Westbrook
Strong! I would still find a way to get Deshaun Foster, just for insurance. Bennett is out for a few weeks and Westbrook should do well.

WR's--Torry Holt, Chris Chambers, Javon Walker, Darrell Jackson
This is a very TIGHT group. You have 4 WRs with the ability to snag 10 TDs and I like the Hasselbeck/Jackson combo.

TE's--Todd Heap, Randy McMichael
Again, very strong.

K--Olindo Mare and someone else
D--Denver and Jacksonville
K's and Def's are a crapshoot to me. You have your top 10 kickers that will all rock, and you have one. Defenses are such a question mark from year to year.
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Nice team.

K.C. BRONCO · 08-29-2004, 06:22 AM

O.K. guys rate my first ever fantasy draft. The scoring im my league favors big plays.

R.B.
Fred Taylor
Kevan Barlow
Duce Staley
Mike Anderson

Q.B.
Chad Pennington
Carson Palmer
Jake Plummer

W.R.
Randy Moss
Porter
Rod Gardner
Terry Glenn

T.E.
Randy McMichael
Jeb Putzier

K
Jason Elam
John Hall

Broncos D
Bills D

I know I fell into the "Homer" role in my draft.

MileHighMania · 08-29-2004, 06:35 AM

Ahhh ... a newbie. Welcome to the insane world of fantasy football!

R.B.
Fred Taylor
Kevan Barlow
Duce Staley
Mike Anderson
Not a bad group. Those first 3 are all top 20 RBs. Staley may finally be that stud RB in Pitt, but watch out for Bettis stealing short yardage TDs. Barlow has a ton of potential, but I'm weary of relying on him as a #2 this season. I could be wrong, but at least you have a strong #3. Anderson may be out for a month or more, so you don't want to hold on to him too long, if better depth is out there.

Q.B.
Chad Pennington
Carson Palmer
Jake Plummer
Very Nice! Pennington should have a stellar year. Who knows how Palmer will do in his first true season, and the jury is still out on Plummer from a fantasy perspective this season.

W.R.
Randy Moss
Porter
Rod Gardner
Terry Glenn
Moss and Porter should be money in the bank for you. Nice production from these guys and Porter is finally one of the top 2 guys in Oakland. Gardner has been a tease so far in his career, maybe this is the season he does well. Glenn is often injured, so don't expect much.

T.E.
Randy McMichael
Jeb Putzier
Kinda unreliable - Miami is in disarray and Randy isn't the smartest guy on the block. Jeb is a potential diamond in the rough, so you may not get consistent production from this group.

K
Jason Elam
John Hall
Nice combo.

Broncos D
Bills D
Decent upside with both.
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I think your starters will be fine, but depth across the board is a concern. Just monitor those players and keep an eye on the waiver wire.

08-28-2004, 04:31 PM	#1
kappys Ring of Famer “It will be of little avail to the Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,901	Grade my FF draft $120 to the points leader and $120 to the overall champ. I think I hae a shot at both. 12 teams, 13 rounds, pick #3 1) Ahman Green 2) Terrell Owens 3) Chad Johnson 4) Trent Green 5) Quentin Griffin 6) Brandon Lloyd 7) Tyrone Wheatley 8) Lee Suggs 9) Donald Driver 10) Ryan Longwell 11) David Carr 12) Ten Def 13) Marcus Pollard Any thoughts?

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08-28-2004, 04:36 PM	#2
TheManeMan Ring of Famer DPOY Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 5,659	Not a bad team...I have my money league draft tomorrow...its a 10 teamer, and I pick 3rd...basically if I leave the confrence room tomorrow with your team, I'd be more than happy...Although the Q pick I might pass on...coming up on TO in the 2nd is what I'm hoping for...Donald Driver is a sleeper...most people have Javon Walker and Ferguson in front of him but, Driver had a poor, injury ridden season last year...Good pick on that...Suggs, and Wheatley...potential trade bait...Suggs actually might end up as your # 2....Brandon Lloyd is a gread pick too...****...12 teams, mine is 10 and I think I'm set...

08-28-2004, 04:42 PM	#5
kappys Ring of Famer “It will be of little avail to the Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,901	I'm happy with my WR's though. I have two top notch guys. Its hard to get a 3rd stud with a 12 team league as donkeyshow mentioned. I also really like my trent green pick up.

08-28-2004, 04:45 PM	#7
orange crusher Predominately Orange Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 2,563	I think you have a shot. I've never been in a twelve team league (always ten), but it seems like you did alright for that many teams.

08-28-2004, 04:46 PM	#8
TheManeMan Ring of Famer DPOY Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 5,659	I forgot to mention David Carr too...he should be a solid backup to TrINT...

08-28-2004, 05:30 PM	#13
kappys Ring of Famer “It will be of little avail to the Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,901	Don't forget about Marvin though. In my draft Moss, then Marvin, then Holt went first. Then I took TO, and the next guy got Hines Ward.

08-28-2004, 05:34 PM	#14
kappys Ring of Famer “It will be of little avail to the Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,901	I should mention that this league gives 1 point / 15 yards, and 0.5 points per reception. So guys like Ahman, and possible Q are good receivers. LT had a monster year last year in our league thanks to the 100 catches.

08-28-2004, 05:35 PM	#15
DONKEYSHOW Lunatic fringe I'll Be Back! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Public Course #9 Posts: 925	who were the QBs left on the board when you took Trent?

08-28-2004, 06:02 PM	#16
chanesaw Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,174 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis Dumervil	Great team, I don't know about Trent Green though.

08-28-2004, 06:23 PM	#21
Big Country Solid Starter Dexter Jackson--Future Mr. Olympia Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 184	I don't mean to hijack this thread, but can you guys tell me how my team is looking or what area I need to work on? QB's--Matt Hasselbeck, Carson Palmer RB's--Ahman Green, Stephen Davis, Michael Bennet, and Brian Westbrook WR's--Torry Holt, Chris Chambers, Javon Walker, Darrell Jackson TE's--Todd Heap, Randy McMichael K--Olindo Mare and someone else D--Denver and Jacksonville By the way, Kappys, your team is looking good.

08-29-2004, 05:55 AM	#22
MileHighMania Smile and wave, boys Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tejas Posts: 1,073	4) Trent Green 11) David Carr I'm not sold on Carr as a backup, but Green is a nice option. 1) Ahman Green 5) Quentin Griffin 7) Tyrone Wheatley 8) Lee Suggs Green is power - and you have 3 nice hopefuls. I think Suggs will surprise many this season and do very well. If he and Griffin step up, you are golden! 2) Terrell Owens 3) Chad Johnson 6) Brandon Lloyd 9) Donald Driver Top two picks are extremely nice. Lloyd is a top sleeper option (much like Suggs) and Driver should be consistent. 13) Marcus Pollard Nice veteran, but he will lose time and scoring options to Dallas Clark. 10) Ryan Longwell Solid. 12) Ten Def Solid. ----- Very nice team - no glaring weak spots other than your depth at RB. I'm not sold on Wheatley being a 20 carry / 17 game RB. Griffin and Suggs are not proven, but appear to be the lead horses for their teams and if they do well, you are set.

08-29-2004, 05:59 AM	#23
MileHighMania Smile and wave, boys Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tejas Posts: 1,073	Big Country, QB's--Matt Hasselbeck, Carson Palmer As mentioned earlier, Matt will have a super 2004 and if Carson is the guy they hope he is, you are set here. RB's--Ahman Green, Stephen Davis, Michael Bennet, and Brian Westbrook Strong! I would still find a way to get Deshaun Foster, just for insurance. Bennett is out for a few weeks and Westbrook should do well. WR's--Torry Holt, Chris Chambers, Javon Walker, Darrell Jackson This is a very TIGHT group. You have 4 WRs with the ability to snag 10 TDs and I like the Hasselbeck/Jackson combo. TE's--Todd Heap, Randy McMichael Again, very strong. K--Olindo Mare and someone else D--Denver and Jacksonville K's and Def's are a crapshoot to me. You have your top 10 kickers that will all rock, and you have one. Defenses are such a question mark from year to year. --- Nice team.

08-29-2004, 06:22 AM	#24
K.C. BRONCO Just Drafted Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2	O.K. guys rate my first ever fantasy draft. The scoring im my league favors big plays. R.B. Fred Taylor Kevan Barlow Duce Staley Mike Anderson Q.B. Chad Pennington Carson Palmer Jake Plummer W.R. Randy Moss Porter Rod Gardner Terry Glenn T.E. Randy McMichael Jeb Putzier K Jason Elam John Hall Broncos D Bills D I know I fell into the "Homer" role in my draft.

08-29-2004, 06:35 AM	#25
MileHighMania Smile and wave, boys Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tejas Posts: 1,073	Ahhh ... a newbie. Welcome to the insane world of fantasy football! R.B. Fred Taylor Kevan Barlow Duce Staley Mike Anderson Not a bad group. Those first 3 are all top 20 RBs. Staley may finally be that stud RB in Pitt, but watch out for Bettis stealing short yardage TDs. Barlow has a ton of potential, but I'm weary of relying on him as a #2 this season. I could be wrong, but at least you have a strong #3. Anderson may be out for a month or more, so you don't want to hold on to him too long, if better depth is out there. Q.B. Chad Pennington Carson Palmer Jake Plummer Very Nice! Pennington should have a stellar year. Who knows how Palmer will do in his first true season, and the jury is still out on Plummer from a fantasy perspective this season. W.R. Randy Moss Porter Rod Gardner Terry Glenn Moss and Porter should be money in the bank for you. Nice production from these guys and Porter is finally one of the top 2 guys in Oakland. Gardner has been a tease so far in his career, maybe this is the season he does well. Glenn is often injured, so don't expect much. T.E. Randy McMichael Jeb Putzier Kinda unreliable - Miami is in disarray and Randy isn't the smartest guy on the block. Jeb is a potential diamond in the rough, so you may not get consistent production from this group. K Jason Elam John Hall Nice combo. Broncos D Bills D Decent upside with both. ----- I think your starters will be fine, but depth across the board is a concern. Just monitor those players and keep an eye on the waiver wire.