Who is the Best Coach in the NFL?

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Originally Posted by AlecRaenos

Lombardi was the best coach ever.

From that era, I would lean towards Paul Brown.

[FADERPROOF]

Parcells.

Has turned around and taken 4 bad teams to the playoffs in his coaching career.

[OrangeDoofus]

A couple years ago there was a poll of coaches on who was the best NFL head coach. You know, they asked the guys who have to game-plan against other NFL coaches who was the hardest to play against. Shanahan was the overwhelming favorite, picked by the guys who are best-equipped to make that judgement.

Now, that was a couple of years ago, and maybe things have changed since then. I can easily see that Belichik's stock has probably risen quite a bit. But I'm still going with Shanahan.

[CBF1]

Originally Posted by OrangeDoofus

A couple years ago there was a poll of coaches on who was the best NFL head coach. You know, they asked the guys who have to game-plan against other NFL coaches who was the hardest to play against. Shanahan was the overwhelming favorite, picked by the guys who are best-equipped to make that judgement.

Now, that was a couple of years ago, and maybe things have changed since then. I can easily see that Belichik's stock has probably risen quite a bit. But I'm still going with Shanahan.

I am sure it was real hard to pick shanny back then with Elway and TD on your team. Ask the coaches coaching now and the answer wil not be shannahan by any of them. Mikes success level has fallen dramatically the past 5 years since the departure of Elway and no one can argue that fact. How can you call Shanny the best coach in the league TODAY when he has not won the division in 5 years or a playoff game in the same time period?

Saying Shannahan is the best in the game today is like saying Terrell Davis is also the best running back PLAYING THIS SEASON! What you did yesterday (5years ago) does not make you the best today....Unless you are myopic shanny homer, In that case Chief fan is right about you.

[yavoon]

yah I dont see how shanny should be getting any real votes. parcells/bellichek are the top right now. I think under them tho is a bunch of ppl, like a big tier.

but if u look at it u can't deny that shanny's brilliance has bottomed out since elway. where's the playoff victories? where's the division titles? I mean if ur the BEST COACH in the game today and u have a team that is annually considered quite talented and u can't muster some of this stuff. not to mention shanny is the GM and while that might be separate from coaching he could hold a parade on the ppl gone through denver that have underachieved or flat out busted.

[Spider]

I went with Shanny , Ithink Shanny needs help in the GM department , but anyone that doesnt see the X's and O's shanny puts out , well they just dont get it ......
When it comes to Coaching , Shanny still the best ....... When it comes to being a GM.Well thats another story , but the Poll didnt ask about GM ...........

[Ballhawk]

Originally Posted by DenFan38

Parcells.

Has turned around and taken 4 bad teams to the playoffs in his coaching career.

The problem I have with Parcells is that he seems to walk into situation where the team is on the rise. He does not ever stay somewhere long enough to have to deal with keeping them on top or Salary cap implications. He is a great short term Coach but I have yet to see him stay in it for the longhaul.

[yavoon]

Originally Posted by Ballhawk

The problem I have with Parcells is that he seems to walk into situation where the team is on the rise. He does not ever stay somewhere long enough to have to deal with keeping them on top or Salary cap implications. He is a great short term Coach but I have yet to see him stay in it for the longhaul.

he has never taken over a team on the rise. infact besides last year I think his first year w/ a team they avgd like 4 victories. weren't the jets like 2-14?

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Originally Posted by Ballhawk

The problem I have with Parcells is that he seems to walk into situation where the team is on the rise. He does not ever stay somewhere long enough to have to deal with keeping them on top or Salary cap implications. He is a great short term Coach but I have yet to see him stay in it for the longhaul.

I don't think that any of the teams would've been considered on the rise, although I agree that he has walked out too early on teams.

Before last year, I wouldn't have considered the Cowboys a team on the rise, in fact, they looked to be in shambles for the next couple years. Parcells comes in, and this team goes to the playoffs.

It took him 2 years at most to turn any team he's coached from a cellar dwelling team into a playoff team, and he's proved it with 4 different teams.

[Ballhawk]

Originally Posted by DenFan38

I don't think that any of the teams would've been considered on the rise, although I agree that he has walked out too early on teams.

Before last year, I wouldn't have considered the Cowboys a team on the rise, in fact, they looked to be in shambles for the next couple years. Parcells comes in, and this team goes to the playoffs.

It took him 2 years at most to turn any team he's coached from a cellar dwelling team into a playoff team, and he's proved it with 4 different teams.

I am not saying he is not a great coach, but not the best due to his departure. It is a very hard thing to do keeping a team at the tops do to FA. Players play well , want more money, and you need to keep a fresh supply of talent in there.

He just has not shown me he can do this. He is a great gameday coach and definatly top 5.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Parcells spent 8 years with the Giants.

[TheManeMan]

No love for Bill Parcells? He gets my vote...

[orange 4 life]

Originally Posted by CB-Champ24

No love for Bill Parcells? He gets my vote...

i think parcells is an excellent coach, but what bothers me about him is that he's like the pat riley of football.

he see's that a program is declining, and he jumps ship to another one ready to move ahead.

feel free to disagree, and keep in mind i STILL admire what he's done wherever he's gone.
i just think that being "the best" means you'd find a way to stick it out at the declining program and turn it again into a winner.

jake

[TheManeMan]

Originally Posted by orange 4 life

i think parcells is an excellent coach, but what bothers me about him is that he's like the pat riley of football.

he see's that a program is declining, and he jumps ship to another one ready to move ahead.

feel free to disagree, and keep in mind i STILL admire what he's done wherever he's gone.
i just think that being "the best" means you'd find a way to stick it out at the declining program and turn it again into a winner.

jake

Main point I want to make is this...the 3 teams he's coached over these past 10 years...not including the Giants, he turned into winning franchises, not necessarily made them Super Bowl Champs (only the Pats reached the AFC Championship) but, the Jets and Cowboys as well...those 3 teams were lost causes before he got there, losing programs if you will...teams that were under .500 or just above...and he's turned them into winning franchises, with over a .500 winning percentage and has shown he can do it with 3 different teams...here are the examples...

Parcell's 1st year with the Giants ('83) he was 3-12...the following year, he went to 9-7, the year after that he went 10-6...the year after that (his 4th year) they were 14-2...

His 1st year with the Pats('93)...5-11...the year after 10-6...the year after that, 6-10...the year after that he made another apperance in the Super Bowl with a 11-5 record...yeah they were a wildcard team but, they still made it...

with the Jets...his 1st year('97) he was 9-7...the following year, 12-4...then after that 8-8 and he bounced...

Finally the Cowboys('03)...his 1st year there, he coached them into the playoffs with Quincy Carter...Yeah, their defense was stellar but, Quincy Carter?

Giants in 1982 were 4-5

Pats in 1992 were 2-14

Jets in 1996 were 1-15

Cowboys in 2002 were 5-11...

All declining programs wouldnt you say?


A total of 4 franchises, he's lifted up...i'd say thats a damn fine coach...its proven he can make his team a winner...thats what you want your coach to do...WIN...

[Bronco_Beerslug]

It's Belichick right now. Quite the job he engineered last season!

[Tredici]

The interesting thing about Parcells is he's never had a better than 500 season when Belichick hasn't been on the sidelines with him - is that close to where Dallas finished last year? Can't remember and I'm too lazy to go look it up. I know they got close to the playoffs.

I don't know how good the Tuna is but is he brilliant when it comes to having a good posse around him.

As far as the other guys not mentioned here I would always throw some respect towards Don Schula.

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Originally Posted by Tredici

The interesting thing about Parcells is he's never had a better than 500 season when Belichick hasn't been on the sidelines with him - is that close to where Dallas finished last year? Can't remember and I'm too lazy to go look it up. I know they got close to the playoffs.

I don't know how good the Tuna is but is he brilliant when it comes to having a good posse around him.

As far as the other guys not mentioned here I would always throw some respect towards Don Schula.

Went 10-6 last year, made the playoffs, lost 1st round to Carolina.

[shakenbake]

Im just a homer, what can I say

[Kid A]

I voted Bilicheck, but I also think that Parcells, Gibbs, and Shanny are up there.

Gibbs has his work cut out for him this year, but I wouldn't be surprised if he turns the skins around fast. Parcells looked like a genius last season, but we'll see if he can win with Testaverde.

Are there any other multiple Super Bowl winners in the league today?

[yavoon]

herm edwards I think is a great coach. just wanted to give him some props.

[NaptownChief]

Originally Posted by Taco John

My List:


1. Joe Gibbs - I thinkJoe is the best of all time. He is my ideal football coach, and his phiosophy is largely what my personal football philosophy is based on.


2. Bill Bilicheck - His second Superbowl win was just as impressive as his first, if not moreso. I'd love to put Shanahan in this spot, but Bill's accomplishments are more recent and thus justifying the spot. I'd still personally take Shanahan over Bill, but homerism could be charged for it.


3. Mike Shanahan - He may not be the best GM there is in the game, but his X's and O's can't be denied. He can take any team and make them competitive based on his gameplanning.


4. Dick Vermiel - Anyone who can make Kurt Warner and Trent Green look like All-pros has to be considered. His use of offensive is lethal, and his ability to bring a team together is at the top.

5. Andy Reid - The guy just knows how to motivate his team to win. Needs to figure out how to get over the hump. Having two of the games biggest passing game stars isn't a bad thing for that venture.

Greatest of all time arguments are always very subjective and there can alway be several people worthy of argument but how and the hell does Parcells not even make your top 5? Especially over Andy Reid? Don't get me wrong I think Reid is a hell of a coach especially to be able to win despite being saddled with McNabb but damn...over Parcells? Shanny and Vermeil over Parcells?

[PatsWin2002]

Originally Posted by Kid A

I voted Bilicheck, but I also think that Parcells, Gibbs, and Shanny are up there.

That's how I see it too.

In this new salary cap era my guy Bill B. does it better than anyone - so I voted for him.

But the teams that have marquis coaches with the resume to back it up are very fortunate. Players buy into the philosphies of someone that's done it all before.

You could also read that as "some of Mike Martz's players think he's a goof and will turn on him at the first sign of adversity".

[Crushaholic]

I decided to go old school with this and struggled between Parcells and Gibbs. I went with Parcells because he's proven he can step into another situation and make that team a winner.

[wabbit]

The proof is in the pudding as 'they' say...

2 SB wins in three years with team stats firmly planted in the middle of the pack


It's either something in the water, or something in the coaching

NE is home to too many goofs for it to be the water...must be the coaching

[Taco John]

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

Greatest of all time arguments are always very subjective and there can alway be several people worthy of argument but how and the hell does Parcells not even make your top 5? Especially over Andy Reid? Don't get me wrong I think Reid is a hell of a coach especially to be able to win despite being saddled with McNabb but damn...over Parcells? Shanny and Vermeil over Parcells?

I think Parcells is the single most overrated coach in NFL history... He's a great NFL throwback, there's no doubt. But a lot of Parcells is hype thanks to coaching two NY teams... He'll throw a team together and make them respectable... And is certainly a good coach. But I don't think he's top five. Top ten... No doubt.