"Banned" of brothers (and 1 sister).

[FarriorFan51]

Meck, NFO? I believe you mean New Forum Order? How about just calling the site newforumorder.com?

[Doc®]

Originally Posted by CC84

My rants weren't aimed at you then. It was aimed at Cheesehead, Mr (who is that?), and Doc who ripped sf after cheeshead posted his conversation with him. How long did those guy post at The NFL Forum? Did they ever have a problem with sportsfan? I don't think so. Its obvious that they're just mad at TC and they're taking it out on anyone who is associated with the forum.

As far as who is the owner, I really have no idea.

Hey bro, you can rant at me all you feel like, I read through SF's transcript twice and I felt he was wron in the areas where I picked him apart. I have nothing personal against him.......but for him to think we should just sit back and wait for them to decide our fate............well bull****!! That kinda arrogance pisses me off.

As I said I would gladly speak with him...........hell I'd even go as far as to give a # where I could be more personal........its too damn hard to say everything on a board. I do feel bad about some comments I made lastnight, I have no intention of trying to sneak back in and cause any trouble....nor do I wanna see that site crash, there are still posters there that I admire and like very much, and I wouldn't wanna see then not be able to enjoy the forum. I made some comments that were wrong and I cant take em back. All I can do is apologize.

MY rage is directed at TC for acting like an internet Hitler and treating us like ****.......as I said I'm outspoken and if that dont sit well there then fine......I still have no desire to go back...........and I dont really wanna fight with you, up until now we've never spoke 2 words to one another..........I am a decent guy until I get crapped on and then all hell breaks loose......I am also loyal to my friends, NO ONE can fault me for that.

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by FarriorFan51

Nice to meet ya'll too, and glad to be here.

LSF won't head up the project, guaranteed. He's still got some loyalty to TNF and even if he didn't he's trying to kick his life into gear. Once he gets his FFL drafts done, he'll probably step down from his mod positions and then disappear for the most part.

I can understand why you wouldn't trust me with heading up the project, I'll respect that. Is there someone else you would trust that would be willing to get it going?

If I am given the chance to make some design changes, I'll make the board look even better than the TNF one. The layout of forums will be the same, but I can make look... cool, for lack of a better word. PHP knowledge rules.

I'll be around on AIM you (or anyone) wants to talk about this. I prefer not to go on YIM, too many bots.

Like I said. I don't want to be involved in it. I simply don't have the time. I'll post there and add some daiseys but that is the extent of my involvement.

If you want to research the costs and get the ball rolling I posted the link. Bust a move.

I have my credit card handy.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Meck77

The bottom line is that place went down hill after Chabi and MWF left. We all know this. Those guys kept that place together. It's obvious that TC had a power trip and doesn't know how to handle a board.

I'm not offering this up to tank the forum. It's more of there is a demand for a site that is run fairly by cooler heads. That's all.

Not to mention it can have an NFO forum twist that I think we would all prefer. We wouldn't have to worry about some nazi power freak banning young girls over nothing.

The power needs to be in the hands of the people. Not 1 idiot.

I am trying to think of some people to head up your forum .......
Call it Football fans haven ............
I wouldnt be a good one to run the board ........

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by FarriorFan51

Meck, NFO? I believe you mean New Forum Order? How about just calling the site newforumorder.com?

It makes no difference to me. That does have a nice ring to it though. Build it and they will come.

[Doc®]

Originally Posted by FarriorFan51

Nice to meet ya'll too, and glad to be here.

LSF won't head up the project, guaranteed. He's still got some loyalty to TNF and even if he didn't he's trying to kick his life into gear. Once he gets his FFL drafts done, he'll probably step down from his mod positions and then disappear for the most part.

I can understand why you wouldn't trust me with heading up the project, I'll respect that. Is there someone else you would trust that would be willing to get it going?

If I am given the chance to make some design changes, I'll make the board look even better than the TNF one. The layout of forums will be the same, but I can make look... cool, for lack of a better word. PHP knowledge rules.

I'll be around on AIM you (or anyone) wants to talk about this. I prefer not to go on YIM, too many bots.

Dont be a stranger, lets put talk this thru and see what would be feasable.....be cool!

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

I am trying to think of some people to head up your forum .......
Call it Football fans haven ............
I wouldnt be a good one to run the board ........

Nah Spider it ain't my forum. I'm just willing to jump start it and give it back to the good people of the forum who were crapped on. Once it's running it can sustain itself with donations.

Basically I look at the Packers as a model. The citizens own the team. In this case the banned of brothers would own Newforumorder.com.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Meck77

Nah Spider it ain't my forum. I'm just willing to jump start it and give it back to the good people of the forum who were crapped on. Once it's running it can sustain itself with donations.

Basically I look at the Packers as a model. The citizens own the team. In this case the banned of brothers would own Newforumorder.com.

Ok I see what you are doing now ........

[Meck77]

Well atleast this way Spider old friends could remain just that. It's all pretty simple. Peopel go to a board to have fun and talk. TC is on some kinda strange mission. He has been paranoid for years. Ever since that whole Shera thing went down I thought the place was rotten to the core. Hell they banned you. I had to raise holy hell after that. Then my darn little cartoon avatar became a scandal. puhlease. Those guys just ran that site with their panties in a bunch all day in fear.

There are hundreds and hundreds of football boards. If you give the people what they want it grows. If you don't if falls apart. ie . Theforum.

Those fools thought that people don't ever travel around the internet to different sites or something. Well now there will be one. It will consist of everyone they didn't want and those that aren't satisfied with their site. If they piss someone off the newforumorder.com will be there to welcome the football fan that was treated like **** by TC.

It's too simple.

If nothing else it will raise the bar of the forum. They will realize that they have to respond to feedback and listen to the members. They never cared before. They might start soon.

[Doc®]

Originally Posted by Meck77

It's too simple.

If nothing else it will raise the bar of the forum. They will realize that they have to respond to feedback and listen to the members. They never cared before. They might start soon.

This sounds like an excellent Idea, I spent too many hours at TNF to even try and count, and would spend a few hours a week here as well, I wasn't able to post here for whatever reason but I still came by and checked out new threads and seen what everyone was doing........the last few months I kinda lost some contact here but I'm very thankful I can post here.

I would love to help out however I could, lets put a plan in motion......hell at least that way we could still have some contact with our lost folk over at TNF.

[FarriorFan51]

The one thing you have to realize is that the server is going to be very expensive if the membership is big enough. You're talking over $100/month in some cases. Webspace isn't cheap when it gets to TNF size.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Meck77

Well atleast this way Spider old friends could remain just that. It's all pretty simple. Peopel go to a board to have fun and talk. TC is on some kinda strange mission. He has been paranoid for years. Ever since that whole Shera thing went down I thought the place was rotten to the core. Hell they banned you. I had to raise holy hell after that. Then my darn little cartoon avatar became a scandal. puhlease. Those guys just ran that site with their panties in a bunch all day in fear.

There are hundreds and hundreds of football boards. If you give the people what they want it grows. If you don't if falls apart. ie . Theforum.

Those fools thought that people don't ever travel around the internet to different sites or something. Well now there will be one. It will consist of everyone they didn't want and those that aren't satisfied with their site. If they piss someone off the newforumorder.com will be there to welcome the football fan that was treated like **** by TC.

It's too simple.

If nothing else it will raise the bar of the forum. They will realize that they have to respond to feedback and listen to the members. They never cared before. They might start soon.

Meck if you had the time , you would be perfect to run a board ...........

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by FarriorFan51

The one thing you have to realize is that the server is going to be very expensive if the membership is big enough. You're talking over $100/month in some cases. Webspace isn't cheap when it gets to TNF size.

Uh were talking 20-30 banned brothers for now and more people as they get shiat on by TC. Not to mention a couple hundred more who want to stop in and chat with the banned ones. Atleast they will be able to say hello to us.

You don't think 500 bucks can get the ball rolling for a few months? Come on now.

[guybrush77]

If you are thinking only a couple hundred people wouldnt one of those free boards suffice?

[FarriorFan51]

Originally Posted by Meck77

Uh were talking 20-30 banned brothers for now and more people as they get shiat on by TC. Not to mention a couple hundred more who want to stop in and chat with the banned ones. Atleast they will be able to say hello to us.

You don't think 500 bucks can get the ball rolling for a few months? Come on now.

Good point. $500 should definitely get the ball rolling.

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

Meck if you had the time , you would be perfect to run a board ...........

Nah no way. I just enjoy working, talking some ball, tailgating and meeting new people. With football season upon us I need to focus on getting these tailgates in tip top shape! It does take some time to plan stuff like that. When I hop on a board I want to have fun. I'm not a real tech type person to manage a site.

If things get out of hand you might see me chime in from time to time and say something like......

Come on fellas this ain't TNF.com time to cut the drama out and talk some ball. We won't ban **** heads. We'll just send them a link to TNF.com

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by guybrush77

If you are thinking only a couple hundred people wouldnt one of those free boards suffice?

Yeah probably would but I think they have too many rules you have to follow. Besides I hate half assing shiat. If you are going to do something my dad always said "Son do it right"

V-bulletin is the standard. Besides I liked the layout of TNF.com. It just needs to be in the hands of the banned people.

[CheeseHead78]

Is there some line that I crossed? These are the same admins that banned us on monday for disagreeing with them. SP agrees with TC. Big deal if I acted like I agreed with him. When he says he was looking for people that got caught up in this he sure as hell isn't talking about me or you DeeDubb. Don't act like I blew some chance to fix everything. If you think I did, then go talk to SP yourself and maybe you manage to get yourself unbanned.

[DeeDubb]

Originally Posted by CheeseHead78

Is there some line that I crossed? These are the same admins that banned us on monday for disagreeing with them. SP agrees with TC. Big deal if I acted like I agreed with him. When he says he was looking for people that got caught up in this he sure as hell isn't talking about me or you DeeDubb. Don't act like I blew some chance to fix everything. If you think I did, then go talk to SP yourself and maybe you manage to get yourself unbanned.

Log onto AIM, I'll talk to you about it there.

[Doc®]

[QUOTE=CheeseHead78]Is there some line that I crossed? These are the same admins that banned us on monday for disagreeing with them. QUOTE]
Nope........if there was a line that was crossed it was done by me, I by far the the most harsh words for the admins at the TNF. CH.......if you'd went into that conversation with SF with an attitude he woulda terminated it before it had any chance to get started.

Hell at least SF was stand up enough to give us some info that should count for something, thats more than I can say for TC, he couldn't even be bothered to speak to us.

[DeeDubb]

Originally Posted by Doc®

Hell at least SF was stand up enough to give us some info that should count for something,.

See, was that so hard to say?

[Doc®]

Originally Posted by DeeDubb

See, was that so hard to say?

No it wasn't hard to say at all, I am not too big a person to admit when I'm wrong......it just might take awhile.........but it still dont change the way I feel about TNF!

[Doc®]

Originally Posted by DeeDubb

I'm not ready to give up on the site. And it drives me crazy that you guys can let it go, just like that.

After some consideration on this subject I am a little puzzled about something Dubb, TC banned you for asking why he banned Connie right?

Then he lets you back in but wipes your account out completely erasing 2300+ posts and I realize thats a status thing and I can go along with that, then the ban happy Hitler **** cans you again and you still want to return

WTF man, are you a sucker for punishment, the evil eye of Tcsokas Hitler is going to be all over you like a cheap suit........just waiting for you to say one little thing so he can pull the plug on you again......and you find that worth it??

Well I suppose if thats appealing to you, I can live with it........can you?

[DeeDubb]

It wasn't a matter of that. I'm willing to accept the fact that TC messed up by banning me twice, but he did it for the protection of his site. If he felt I was a threat to the site, and he banned me, I can understand that. Apparently, the forum has crashed twice before, and they were trying to prevent that from happening again.

The fact is, That site has an awesome format, and the moderator's are great. I don't have problems with the admins, but If SF is as open as he seems then I'm sure that he would be willing to discuss terms and new policies that would prevent anything like this from happening again. (i.e. more clearset reasons for banning, what sort of warnings must be implemented before an admin will ban someone, etc...)

It's not that I enjoy being punished, I enjoy challenges. And I feel if we handle this the right way, it could become an opportunity to improve the site rather than a complete implosion. If you guys don't agree with my positive outlook, that is fine.

[Mr]

Originally Posted by DeeDubb

It wasn't a matter of that. I'm willing to accept the fact that TC messed up by banning me twice, but he did it for the protection of his site. If he felt I was a threat to the site, and he banned me, I can understand that. Apparently, the forum has crashed twice before, and they were trying to prevent that from happening again.

The fact is, That site has an awesome format, and the moderator's are great. I don't have problems with the admins, but If SF is as open as he seems then I'm sure that he would be willing to discuss terms and new policies that would prevent anything like this from happening again. (i.e. more clearset reasons for banning, what sort of warnings must be implemented before an admin will ban someone, etc...)

It's not that I enjoy being punished, I enjoy challenges. And I feel if we handle this the right way, it could become an opportunity to improve the site rather than a complete implosion. If you guys don't agree with my positive outlook, that is fine.