Bush to pull troops out of Europe and Asia? - The Orange Mane

Taco John · 08-14-2004, 04:16 PM

Bush to announce US troop pullouts from Europe, Asia on Monday: report

LONDON (AFP) Aug 14, 2004
The United States is expected to announce Monday that it is pulling 100,000 troops out of Europe and Asia, the Financial Times newspaper reported Saturday.
It said the withdrawals -- the largest restructuring of Washington's military presence abroad since World War II -- would be announced in a speech by US President George W. Bush.

Citing "people briefed on the plan" in a front-page story datelined London, the newspaper said two-thirds of the reductions would be in Europe, with 70,000 troops -- mostly from Germany -- being sent back to stateside bases.

"In Asia, the drawdown is expected to include the 3,500-soldier brigade from South Korea, recently deployed in Iraq, but will also include scaling down presences in several other countries in the region," it said.

Germany will still host the largest contingent of US troops in Europe, but the pullouts could nevertheless see the departure of the 1st Armoured Division and the 1st Infantry Division, the Financial Times said.

Taco John · 08-14-2004, 04:16 PM

Holy crap! He might just swing my vote.

Taco John · 08-14-2004, 04:28 PM

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...sa_military_dc

Taco John · 08-14-2004, 04:29 PM

I am officially undecided.

I'm impressed with this move.

DivineLegion · 08-14-2004, 04:32 PM

bout damn time...

watermock · 08-14-2004, 05:04 PM

About time. I just worry about how ready these creampuffs are to go to Iraq. They better send them to Ft. Hood for a little training or they going to get picked off like ducks at a carnival.

WTF does Germany need our help anymore? Keep the hospitals and a couple air bases open and that's it. They have been feeding off our teat long enough.

Rascal · 08-14-2004, 05:28 PM

About freaking time. I really like this move.

Crushaholic · 08-14-2004, 05:51 PM

This move should have been made about 10 years ago, but it's good to see it finally happening.

Rock Chalk · 08-14-2004, 06:06 PM

I dont think it would have been wise ten years ago. Too soon after the cold war ended and there were still threats to democracy (and still are but mostly subsided) in the region. It is overdue IMO and this is a great move by Bush. Our bases abroad served their purpose and slowly I think its time we backed off.

mosca · 08-15-2004, 01:33 AM

right on. i like this move for all the reasons mentioned and also for the reason that it gives some of that liberal element in europe less of a reason to b**** and moan about u.s. military presence.

watermock · 08-15-2004, 01:50 AM

Only the French could place a naked man at the centerpiece of the Normandy Cemtetary. It's so typical. oh god, oh god oh god.

It's it's a disgrace so many have ignored. It doesn't show kids climing up the beaches while Vichey France didn't even revolt. They didn't even have the class to make a statue of a soldier. In an American mass cementary, this just knocks me out. There were no nude Frenchmen on Omaha Beach. The more I learn about these a-holes the more I hate them.

watermock · 08-15-2004, 01:58 AM

How about this one Frenchie?

watermock · 08-15-2004, 02:04 AM

The French didn't even invade Normandy, but they have some naked idiot throwing his hands up in surrender asking for God to help him. It's literally hysterical.

MLB · 08-15-2004, 08:46 AM

Dude, you should seek some professional help.

BroncoInferno · 08-15-2004, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

I am officially undecided.

I'm impressed with this move.

This move alone would be enough to swing your vote to Bush, TJ? I agree, it's a good move, but not nearly enough to cover up for his other failings (getting us in the war for bogus reasons, fiscally irresponsible policies, piss-poor environmental record, etc.), IMHO. Considering the nature of your other posts regarding Bush, it seems a little surprising that this would be enough for you to give him serious consideration. Just curious as to your thinking.

sutoazul · 08-15-2004, 10:31 AM

Great move by Bush. Props when he deserves it!! No one said he's a 100% bad for this country.

Meck77 · 08-15-2004, 10:35 AM

Wow 100,000. That's great news!

alkemical · 08-15-2004, 12:11 PM

Well then i guess this means that N. Korea isn't a problem... Or that maybe we are going to leave tiawan as a sitting duck...

See this is just lip service again - more lies from those in power.

Crushaholic · 08-15-2004, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amesj523

Well then i guess this means that N. Korea isn't a problem... Or that maybe we are going to leave tiawan as a sitting duck...

See this is just lip service again - more lies from those in power.

I've always been worried about N. Korea developing nuclear weapons. If that happens and they really threaten S. Korea, it's going to be a situation that requires a lot more than the 3,500 troop force that we currently have deployed there. It's wasted manpower unless N. Korea actually gives us a reason to pay attention to them.

patteeu · 08-15-2004, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crushaholic

I've always been worried about N. Korea developing nuclear weapons. If that happens and they really threaten S. Korea, it's going to be a situation that requires a lot more than the 3,500 troop force that we currently have deployed there. It's wasted manpower unless N. Korea actually gives us a reason to pay attention to them.

You can stop worrying now. N. Korea already has nuclear weapons.

Rock Chalk · 08-15-2004, 01:30 PM

Its a no win situation. The Koreans want us out, but if we leave and North Korea goes nuclear, then its our fault (specifically BUSH'S fault) for pulling troops out of there. If we stay, we deal with protestors abroad and at home. We are not even pulling that many troops out of asia, most of the recall is in Europe.

But of course, you cant please everyone all the time and JOsh is just one of those people that will never be pleased by anything anyone in government does.

watermock · 08-15-2004, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crushaholic

I've always been worried about N. Korea developing nuclear weapons. If that happens and they really threaten S. Korea, it's going to be a situation that requires a lot more than the 3,500 troop force that we currently have deployed there. It's wasted manpower unless N. Korea actually gives us a reason to pay attention to them.

Actually, we allready moved 3,500 from Korea to Iraq, this just finalized it. We still have around 30,000? there to support S. Korea's army.

If they invade, the main problem will be enough ammo to hit rail thin, starving conscripts. What a pathetic country, boiling with paranoia.

rodr88 · 08-15-2004, 02:07 PM

I spent time in Germany in the late 70's and early 80's. The liberals over there hated us then, and that hasn't changed at all. It's time we brought our troops home from Germany and let the Germans defend themselves. It's not like the french are going to invade anytime soon. (unless they figure they can surrender to the first German they see and ask for financial aid to rebuild france).

Ballhawk · 08-15-2004, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodr88

I spent time in Germany in the late 70's and early 80's. The liberals over there hated us then, and that hasn't changed at all. It's time we brought our troops home from Germany and let the Germans defend themselves. It's not like the french are going to invade anytime soon. (unless they figure they can surrender to the first German they see and ask for financial aid to rebuild france).

Do not underestimate how quickly the French could arm themselves against Germany. There are many guns for sale in France on the Cheap, pratically new dropped once never been fired.

rodr88 · 08-15-2004, 03:05 PM

ROTFLMAO You got that right.

08-14-2004, 04:16 PM	#1
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,742 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Bush to pull troops out of Europe and Asia? Bush to announce US troop pullouts from Europe, Asia on Monday: report LONDON (AFP) Aug 14, 2004 The United States is expected to announce Monday that it is pulling 100,000 troops out of Europe and Asia, the Financial Times newspaper reported Saturday. It said the withdrawals -- the largest restructuring of Washington's military presence abroad since World War II -- would be announced in a speech by US President George W. Bush. Citing "people briefed on the plan" in a front-page story datelined London, the newspaper said two-thirds of the reductions would be in Europe, with 70,000 troops -- mostly from Germany -- being sent back to stateside bases. "In Asia, the drawdown is expected to include the 3,500-soldier brigade from South Korea, recently deployed in Iraq, but will also include scaling down presences in several other countries in the region," it said. Germany will still host the largest contingent of US troops in Europe, but the pullouts could nevertheless see the departure of the 1st Armoured Division and the 1st Infantry Division, the Financial Times said.

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08-14-2004, 04:28 PM	#3
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,742 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...sa_military_dc

08-14-2004, 04:29 PM	#4
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,742 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I am officially undecided. I'm impressed with this move.

08-14-2004, 04:32 PM	#5
DivineLegion There can only be one... G.O.A.T Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Peak of Good Living Posts: 4,195 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nate Irving	bout damn time...

08-14-2004, 05:04 PM	#6
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	About time. I just worry about how ready these creampuffs are to go to Iraq. They better send them to Ft. Hood for a little training or they going to get picked off like ducks at a carnival. WTF does Germany need our help anymore? Keep the hospitals and a couple air bases open and that's it. They have been feeding off our teat long enough.

08-14-2004, 05:28 PM	#7
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,582 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	About freaking time. I really like this move.

08-14-2004, 05:51 PM	#8
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,078	This move should have been made about 10 years ago, but it's good to see it finally happening.

08-14-2004, 06:06 PM	#9
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,942 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	I dont think it would have been wise ten years ago. Too soon after the cold war ended and there were still threats to democracy (and still are but mostly subsided) in the region. It is overdue IMO and this is a great move by Bush. Our bases abroad served their purpose and slowly I think its time we backed off.

08-15-2004, 01:33 AM	#10
mosca grand pubah honest optimism Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,950 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bubby Brister	right on. i like this move for all the reasons mentioned and also for the reason that it gives some of that liberal element in europe less of a reason to b**** and moan about u.s. military presence.

08-15-2004, 01:50 AM	#11
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Only the French could place a naked man at the centerpiece of the Normandy Cemtetary. It's so typical. oh god, oh god oh god. It's it's a disgrace so many have ignored. It doesn't show kids climing up the beaches while Vichey France didn't even revolt. They didn't even have the class to make a statue of a soldier. In an American mass cementary, this just knocks me out. There were no nude Frenchmen on Omaha Beach. The more I learn about these a-holes the more I hate them.

08-15-2004, 01:58 AM	#12
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	How about this one Frenchie?

08-15-2004, 02:04 AM	#13
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	The French didn't even invade Normandy, but they have some naked idiot throwing his hands up in surrender asking for God to help him. It's literally hysterical.

08-15-2004, 08:46 AM	#14
MLB Solid Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: TEXAS Posts: 112	Dude, you should seek some professional help.

08-15-2004, 10:31 AM	#16
sutoazul Independently Owned Go Broncos!! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,514 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Great move by Bush. Props when he deserves it!! No one said he's a 100% bad for this country.

08-15-2004, 10:35 AM	#17
Meck77 Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 16,324	Wow 100,000. That's great news!

08-15-2004, 12:11 PM	#18
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,723 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	Well then i guess this means that N. Korea isn't a problem... Or that maybe we are going to leave tiawan as a sitting duck... See this is just lip service again - more lies from those in power.

08-15-2004, 01:30 PM	#21
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,942 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Its a no win situation. The Koreans want us out, but if we leave and North Korea goes nuclear, then its our fault (specifically BUSH'S fault) for pulling troops out of there. If we stay, we deal with protestors abroad and at home. We are not even pulling that many troops out of asia, most of the recall is in Europe. But of course, you cant please everyone all the time and JOsh is just one of those people that will never be pleased by anything anyone in government does.

08-15-2004, 02:07 PM	#23
rodr88 Mopigeon 10/4/88-10/3/07 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rio Rancho NM Posts: 182	I spent time in Germany in the late 70's and early 80's. The liberals over there hated us then, and that hasn't changed at all. It's time we brought our troops home from Germany and let the Germans defend themselves. It's not like the french are going to invade anytime soon. (unless they figure they can surrender to the first German they see and ask for financial aid to rebuild france).

08-15-2004, 03:05 PM	#25
rodr88 Mopigeon 10/4/88-10/3/07 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rio Rancho NM Posts: 182	ROTFLMAO You got that right.