Bush was AWOL According to Federal Law

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DEVELOPING FRIDAY – CONFIRMATION FROM THE NATIONAL GUARD….

By John Byrne | Raw Story Editor

Federal code unearthed by RAW STORY finally lays to rest questions of whether President George W. Bush was absent without leave during the time he served in the Texas Air National Guard.

The research, conducted by Paul Lukasiak over the past four months, proves that Bush was absent without leave under the law.

His superior officers could not have approved, nor could they have ignored, five straight months of missed training sessions between May and September of 1972.

You can read the article documenting the proof that he never made up these training sessions here.

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=163

According to the 1972 edition of the Universal Code of Military Justice, Section 886, Article 86,"Absence Without Leave,” subparagraph three, any member of the armed forces is considered AWOL if he, without authority, “absents himself or remains from his unit, organization, at which he is required to be at the time prescribed.”



Full story here:

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=172

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Quotes

"Have you noticed that most presidents have embarrassing brothers?
Clinton had Roger; Carter had Billy. You know who the embarrassing
brother is in the Bush family? George."

--Jay Leno

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So, according to the UCMJ, bush was AWOL.

The silence of the wingers is once again deafening...

[Blueflame]

An update to the story...

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=175

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Reagan defense secretary confirms legal analysis that George W. Bush was AWOL

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=175

Lawrence J. Korb, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Manpower, Reserve Affairs, Installations and Logistics under Ronald Reagan from 1981-1985, confirmed RAW STORY’s legal analysis of President Bush’s Guard Service in a telephone call Friday afternoon.

The analysis, which proves that President George W. Bush was absent without leave from the Texas Air National Guard in 1972, is available here:

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=172

Given proof that Bush missed five months of Guard training sessions, he said that Bush would be considered AWOL.

“If you don’t show up, you’re absent without leave, by definition,” Korb said.

No more than ten percent of sessions could be missed without them being made up, he asserted, confirming RAW STORY’s findings. He added that President Bush should have been mandated to serve active duty if he missed even two months of service in a fiscal year – 24 months of active duty minus the amount of active duty already served.

For Bush, this would have amounted to 113 days. How this number was divined can be seen here:

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=173

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This thread is dedicated to all the bush supporters who are questioning John Kerry's military service.

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Bush's murky military past

Even allowing for the usual military-bureaucratic incompetence, records relating to George W. Bush's National Guard Service have a suspiciously low survival rate, so there has been understandable incredulity about the recent revelation that a crucial quarter's pay records from 1972 did not survive the Pentagon's alleged attempt to transfer the microfilm to a more durable medium. That incredulity was enhanced rather than allayed when they eventually were discovered behind whichever filing cabinet they had been dropped.

At issue is whether Bush was, technically at least, a deserter in his fourth year of National Guard service, when he requested a transfer to Guard duties in Alabama so he could assist a Republican senatorial campaign there.

Bush asserts that he turned up and did his duty. However, no one on the base remembers seeing him, including the commanding officer and several other officers who say they were actively looking to network with the hot-shot Texan with the influential father--but waited in vain.

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i...816&s=williams

[RunByDesign]

What else is there to say?

Pwned.

[watermock]

Well first, Dimwit, he was never charged.

Second, Kerry managed a Silver star during a war attocity shooting Charlie in the back.

One thing always amusing about idiot boy's rants is the record of Bill Clinton of Oxford.

Bill didn't go to Canada, Bill took the high road to England.

Sit down and shut up you idiot. Millions of kids didn't want to go play in the Kennedy/Johnson cold war test field.

You don't even have a single clue. The war was to test weapons systems you dimwit. When 55,000 men are killed give me a call. The war in Iraq has serious national security issues. Vietnam was a joke. I have never seen anyone throw their ass in front of the camera like Kerry. The guy was a horrible commander relieved of duty after 4 months, has nothing in the resume other than saving another sailor, (to me, that is basically normal duty. If a person falls off you boat you jump in...wtf is that.)

So whatever. spin it.

[Blueflame]

Originally Posted by watermock

Well first, Dimwit, he was never charged.

The point is that any other young man (whose father wasn't a senator) would have been charged... or immediately drafted and sent overseas.

Second, Kerry managed a Silver star during a war attocity shooting Charlie in the back.

He killed an enemy combatant who was holding a weapon capable of destroying his swift boat and killing his crew... according to official Navy records and the officers who nominated him for the medal.

One thing always amusing about idiot boy's rants is the record of Bill Clinton of Oxford.

Bill didn't go to Canada, Bill took the high road to England.

Yes, he went to Oxford on a prestigious Rhodes scholarship.
(why do the conservatives always want to bring the subject back to Clinton, whether he's relevant to the current debate or not? )

Sit down and shut up you idiot. Millions of kids didn't want to go play in the Kennedy/Johnson cold war test field.

You don't even have a single clue. The war was to test weapons systems you dimwit. When 55,000 men are killed give me a call. The war in Iraq has serious national security issues. Vietnam was a joke. I have never seen anyone throw their ass in front of the camera like Kerry. The guy was a horrible commander relieved of duty after 4 months, has nothing in the resume other than saving another sailor, (to me, that is basically normal duty. If a person falls off you boat you jump in...wtf is that.)

So whatever. spin it.

Sounds to me like you already have spun it, Mock....

[Rohirrim]

Blue, it's the Nixon lackies that are telling the truth, not the Navy's records.

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Blue, it's the Nixon lackies that are telling the truth, not the Navy's records.

No doubt... must be because the smear of John McCain looks so impressive on their resume... they're getting really good at this tactic of slamming combat vets in favor of a chickenhawk who never got close to any hostile forces.

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Yes, he went to Oxford on a prestigious Rhodes scholarship.
(why do the conservatives always want to bring the subject back to Clinton, whether he's relevant to the current debate or not?

Because conservatives suffer from arrested moral development.

They are like kids who cry "but look what Johnny did" when they are caught doing something naughty.

They are incapable of taking responsibility for their actions, so they deflect.

Their role model AWOL Boy--who never admits to being wrong about anything--only reinforces and validates this behavior.

To set the record straight about Clinton and military service:

When Clinton received his induction notice he reported to his local draft board as ordered.

He was encouraged to apply for ROTC--which he did.

He later rejected ROTC classification and asked to be put back into the draft (against the objections of his ROTC commander.)

Nixon subsequently instated the draft lottery, and Clinton's number never came up.

Hence, Clinton didn't "dodge" anything. He left himself open to the draft and was prepared to go if called upon.

Clinton's actions were more honorable than Bush using his father's political connections to move to the top of the waiting list for a slot in a cush ANG unit that had no chance of deployment to Viet Nam.

And Clinton's actions were certainly more honorable than Dumbya's wartime desertion.

[Southern Bronco]

Wow. Active duty personnel are AWOL if they don't report for duty. What a revelation bluelemur has found. And if W had ever been on active duty, he may well have been AWOL. Too bad the rules are different for Guardsmen. For example, has any active duty soldier ever been able to be reassigned to a different state for the purpose of working on a political campaign? No? I wonder why? Has any active duty soldier ever been able to just show up one weekend per month? No? I wonder why? Has any active duty soldier ever been allowed to make up time for not showing up on a weekend by coming in on a weekday? No? I wonder why? Does LABF know why? No? I wonder why?

[Raider Bill]

He is a cut and paste monkey incapable of independent thought.

[Exile_In_SJ]

Originally Posted by njbil

He is a cut and paste monkey incapable of independent thought.

Brilliant! Succinct and to the point.. rep.

[MLB]

I'll second that rep.

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Too bad the rules are different for Guardsmen.

Now SB is flat out lying to protect AWOL Boy.

For shame.

BTW, LMAO @ SB and his fellow ditto monkeys thinking they know more than St. Ronnie's secretary of defense about dumbya's AWOL status.

He is a cut and paste monkey incapable of independent thought.

Since there is nothing 'cut' or 'pasted' in the post to which this ditto monkey is responding, I can only assume that the message was right on target.

[Raider Bill]

What the hell LABF? You think that someone slightly to the Right of you is a ditto monkey? Someone slightly to the right of you is probably still a liberal democrat, someone far to the right of you is a middle of the roader.

I'm willing to admit Bush has his flaws. The military service angle is irrevelent to me. In war time I think continuity of leadership is important so in an ironic twist, I think W created a problem he can best lead us out of.

Kerry says he will rebuild the alliances that W ruined in the wake of 9/11. The question I have is how? and at what cost? If this is political doublespeak for coddling to France and Germany's every wish, then I say "no" the hell with them. They need us more than we need them.


I benefit from the reduction in the marriage penality, lower tax rates, and higher deduction for children. While Kerry waxes poetic about jamming it to the rich, there are no specific proposals as to what happens to these tax reductions on his watch. When Democrats get elected the definition of rich tends to become anyone with gross adjusted income.

Most importantly, the appointment of more rightward leaning judges. Our federal judicial system is a farce. Like the article I posted states they push a leftist agenda that would never pass muster from the voting populace. They invent new law and legislate from the bench.

I am not a big fan of W's big spending ways, but I don't see this changing no matter who gets elected. The deficit to me isn't really the big deal people make it out to be. I read somewhere that it equates to 20 grand for every man woman and child in the US. So What? In my household my personal deficit equals around 50 grand for every man woman and child. (Family of 4 w 200 thousand mortage). My situation is probably pretty typical in this day and age.

Is 20 thousand financed over your lifetime to large of a price to pay to live in this country.. Hell no I say. Also the funny thing about the deficit is that it's financed with T bills and bonds. When the current ones come due, do you know what the govt does? They just issue new ones to pay off the current recipients. Unlike you or I the government can just roll debt into perpetuity allowing the economy to grow until the debt becomes negligable.

Social security, the way I see it is if it's not privitized soon, I'm not going to be seeing any come my way come 2031 anyway. Boy am I glad I have my fat union pension to live off of.



So therefore this Nov. I will hold my nose and vote for Bush. Although in the Peoples Republic of New Jersey it probably won't matter.

[Southern Bronco]

Now SB is flat out lying to protect AWOL Boy.

Please cite evidence to support your claim that I am lying. Hint: use the rules and regs regarding National Guardsmen at the time in question. I anxiously await your factual rebuttal.

[Exile_In_SJ]

Originally Posted by Southern Bronco

Please cite evidence to support your claim that I am lying. Hint: use the rules and regs regarding National Guardsmen at the time in question. I anxiously await your factual rebuttal.

unless it's on bartcop or moron.org LABF can't understand it..

[Exile_In_SJ]

Originally Posted by njbil

What the hell LABF? You think that someone slightly to the Right of you is a ditto monkey? Someone slightly to the right of you is probably still a liberal democrat, someone far to the right of you is a middle of the roader.

I'm willing to admit Bush has his flaws. The military service angle is irrevelent to me. In war time I think continuity of leadership is important so in an ironic twist, I think W created a problem he can best lead us out of.

Kerry says he will rebuild the alliances that W ruined in the wake of 9/11. The question I have is how? and at what cost? If this is political doublespeak for coddling to France and Germany's every wish, then I say "no" the hell with them. They need us more than we need them.


I benefit from the reduction in the marriage penality, lower tax rates, and higher deduction for children. While Kerry waxes poetic about jamming it to the rich, there are no specific proposals as to what happens to these tax reductions on his watch. When Democrats get elected the definition of rich tends to become anyone with gross adjusted income.

Most importantly, the appointment of more rightward leaning judges. Our federal judicial system is a farce. Like the article I posted states they push a leftist agenda that would never pass muster from the voting populace. They invent new law and legislate from the bench.

I am not a big fan of W's big spending ways, but I don't see this changing no matter who gets elected. The deficit to me isn't really the big deal people make it out to be. I read somewhere that it equates to 20 grand for every man woman and child in the US. So What? In my household my personal deficit equals around 50 grand for every man woman and child. (Family of 4 w 200 thousand mortage). My situation is probably pretty typical in this day and age.

Is 20 thousand financed over your lifetime to large of a price to pay to live in this country.. Hell no I say. Also the funny thing about the deficit is that it's financed with T bills and bonds. When the current ones come due, do you know what the govt does? They just issue new ones to pay off the current recipients. Unlike you or I the government can just roll debt into perpetuity allowing the economy to grow until the debt becomes negligable.

Social security, the way I see it is if it's not privitized soon, I'm not going to be seeing any come my way come 2031 anyway. Boy am I glad I have my fat union pension to live off of.



So therefore this Nov. I will hold my nose and vote for Bush. Although in the Peoples Republic of New Jersey it probably won't matter.

anyone not to the left of LABF and Lenin is a right winger to LABF. He's funny that way