Senator Cleland: Bush 'flat out lied' on Iraq - The Orange Mane

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 07-19-2004, 06:13 PM

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...1506&ncid=2043

WASHINGTON (AFP) - US Democrats stepped up attacks on George W. Bush's anti-terror policies when an official of White House candidate John Kerry's campaign said the president "flat-out lied" over the Iraq war.

Former senator Max Cleland made his remarks in a conference call to reporters with Democratic chairman Terry McAuliffe as part of a party offensive ahead of this week's release of a major report sure to fuel criticism of Bush's war on terror.

Cleland, a national co-chairman of Kerry's campaign, described the Bush administration's arguments that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and ties to al-Qaeda terrorists, as a "pack of lies."

The former lawmaker from the southern state of Georgia defended the vote that he, Kerry and others cast in the Senate to authorize military intervention in Iraq, saying the Congress was "flat-out lied to."

Asked whether they were lied to by the intelligence services or the White House, he said emphatically: "By the president, by the vice president and by the secretary of defense."

"This country is less safe and less secure because of George Bush's decision to go to war alone and alienate the Arab and Islamic world and generate more recruits for al-Qaeda," he said.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 07-19-2004, 06:14 PM

Cue the anticipated retort from the bush lemmings:

"Max Cleland hates America!"

watermock · 07-20-2004, 02:42 AM

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The former lawmaker from the southern state of Georgia defended the vote that he, Kerry and others cast

Are you the setup man?

Blueflame · 07-20-2004, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by watermock

Are you the setup man?

No... that would be Ann Coulter....

watermock · 07-20-2004, 05:37 AM

No, that would be Wilson.

Ann Coulter is a editorialist.

She has so much fun it's beyond crazy.

She has so much fun she can't help but laugh, because noone has been able to touch her yet.

All she does is tell the truth in straight forward element.

Tell me one thing Ann Coulter has been caught lying about.

Just one.

Rascal · 07-20-2004, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...1506&ncid=2043

WASHINGTON (AFP) - US Democrats stepped up attacks on George W. Bush's anti-terror policies when an official of White House candidate John Kerry's campaign said the president "flat-out lied" over the Iraq war.

Former senator Max Cleland made his remarks in a conference call to reporters with Democratic chairman Terry McAuliffe as part of a party offensive ahead of this week's release of a major report sure to fuel criticism of Bush's war on terror.

Cleland, a national co-chairman of Kerry's campaign, described the Bush administration's arguments that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and ties to al-Qaeda terrorists, as a "pack of lies."

The former lawmaker from the southern state of Georgia defended the vote that he, Kerry and others cast in the Senate to authorize military intervention in Iraq, saying the Congress was "flat-out lied to."

Asked whether they were lied to by the intelligence services or the White House, he said emphatically: "By the president, by the vice president and by the secretary of defense."

"This country is less safe and less secure because of George Bush's decision to go to war alone and alienate the Arab and Islamic world and generate more recruits for al-Qaeda," he said.

Are you such a tool that you can't see the obvious political mudslinging going on?

Yeah this was something worth posting...not.

Blueflame · 07-20-2004, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by watermock

No, that would be Wilson.

Ann Coulter is a editorialist.

She has so much fun it's beyond crazy.

She has so much fun she can't help but laugh, because noone has been able to touch her yet.

All she does is tell the truth in straight forward element.

Tell me one thing Ann Coulter has been caught lying about.

Just one.

Wasn't it Ann Coulter who said Max Cleland was "on his way to get a beer" when he was injured in Vietnam?

Exile_In_SJ · 07-20-2004, 05:56 PM

Cleland is just bitter, what else would you expect? He holds no weight with people not on the left end.

Rohirrim · 07-20-2004, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueflame

Wasn't it Ann Coulter who said Max Cleland was "on his way to get a beer" when he was injured in Vietnam?

Sorry, Blue. These guys couldn't give a damn about the truth. They only care about winning - whatever it takes. But I commend you for trying.

Yeah, it was Coulter who spread the Cleland smear - including the line that he picked up the grenade because he was drunk. The real story, as told by the Medic who actually witnessed the event, was that Cleland was climbing into a chopper when a "cherry" (a new guy in country) dropped a grenade that he had attached incorrectly to his gear, which exploded under Cleland.

I'm surprised that any American who respects the idea of patriotism would continue to stick up for these people (Coulter, Rove, etc.) - but they do.

Taco John · 07-20-2004, 06:58 PM

You mean there are people that actually listen to Coulter?

I tuned out years ago when she and Couric had their little b****y session. I thought they were both crazy...

Hmmm... So people actually listen to Coulter. I might have to tune in and see what the hell for (other than her looks).

Sideburn · 07-20-2004, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

You mean there are people that actually listen to Coulter?

I tuned out years ago when she and Couric had their little b****y session. I thought they were both crazy...

Hmmm... So people actually listen to Coulter. I might have to tune in and see what the hell for (other than her looks).

It's not just the looks TJ...it's the anticipation of watching her explode. It will happen one day. I thought today was the day when she was on Hannity and Colmes earlier...Unfortunately, she didn't explode, but I'm still crossing the fingers.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 07-20-2004, 07:12 PM

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"They had two levels of evidence. Anything that would confirm WMD in Iraq - very little scrutiny. Anything that showed Iraq did not have WMDs had a much higher gate to pass because if it were true, all of US policy towards Iraq would have fallen asunder."

--David Kay, Bush's hand-picked "truth-finder," calling Bush a lying warmonger

You mean there are people that actually listen to Coulter?

Yep. Mostly rural, mostly uneducated white trash who vote repuke (read: consistently vote against their own political/economic interests.)

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 07-20-2004, 07:15 PM

Blueflame · 07-20-2004, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Sorry, Blue. These guys couldn't give a damn about the truth. They only care about winning - whatever it takes. But I commend you for trying.

Yeah, it was Coulter who spread the Cleland smear - including the line that he picked up the grenade because he was drunk. The real story, as told by the Medic who actually witnessed the event, was that Cleland was climbing into a chopper when a "cherry" (a new guy in country) dropped a grenade that he had attached incorrectly to his gear, which exploded under Cleland.

I'm surprised that any American who respects the idea of patriotism would continue to stick up for these people (Coulter, Rove, etc.) - but they do.

No doubt, Roh... how anyone can defend Coulter after those hateful remarks is beyond me.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 07-20-2004, 07:42 PM

how anyone can defend Coulter after those hateful remarks is beyond me.

You have to understand that the retards who buy into Ann Slander's lies and distortions view politics like a football game: it's all about "go team GOP" no matter how crooked the republican party becomes.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 07-21-2004, 02:29 AM

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"Considering that George Bush actively avoided combat duty and has pursued policies that have made the nation less secure, he is on very shaky ground when it comes to questioning the commitment that Vietnam vet John Kerry has to our national security. This is just more attack-dog politicking by an increasingly desperate, partisan White House."

--Max Cleland, gave an arm and both legs for his country, yet that punk-ass Saxby Chambliss called him "another Osama bin Laden" for not voting with black-hearted Republican bastards, and in "hang-a-n*gger" Georgia, that's a winning strategy

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 07-21-2004, 02:32 AM

You know, the more I think about it, I have to admit the repukes were right about something:

Iraq isn't like Viet Nam.

Bush had an exit strategy for Viet Nam.

watermock · 07-21-2004, 04:30 AM

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it's the anticipation of watching her explode. It will happen one day. I thought today was the day when she was on Hannity and Colmes earlier...Unfortunately, she didn't explode, but I'm still crossing the fingers.

Watching Coulters head implode or explode, (who knows which device she has implanted) would be amusing.

I would still let her ride me from on top. I would be like screwing Mohammed Ali in reverse.

Exile_In_SJ · 07-21-2004, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueflame

No doubt, Roh... how anyone can defend Coulter after those hateful remarks is beyond me.

and yet there are people here who defend LABF who makes Ann Coulter look mild with his hatred. How anyone can defend this guy is beyond me.

Crushaholic · 07-21-2004, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Quotes

"They had two levels of evidence. Anything that would confirm WMD in Iraq - very little scrutiny. Anything that showed Iraq did not have WMDs had a much higher gate to pass because if it were true, all of US policy towards Iraq would have fallen asunder."

--David Kay, Bush's hand-picked "truth-finder," calling Bush a lying warmonger

Interesting, but I didn't see "lying warmonger" in that quote.

07-19-2004, 06:13 PM	#1
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	Senator Cleland: Bush 'flat out lied' on Iraq http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...1506&ncid=2043 WASHINGTON (AFP) - US Democrats stepped up attacks on George W. Bush's anti-terror policies when an official of White House candidate John Kerry's campaign said the president "flat-out lied" over the Iraq war. Former senator Max Cleland made his remarks in a conference call to reporters with Democratic chairman Terry McAuliffe as part of a party offensive ahead of this week's release of a major report sure to fuel criticism of Bush's war on terror. Cleland, a national co-chairman of Kerry's campaign, described the Bush administration's arguments that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and ties to al-Qaeda terrorists, as a "pack of lies." The former lawmaker from the southern state of Georgia defended the vote that he, Kerry and others cast in the Senate to authorize military intervention in Iraq, saying the Congress was "flat-out lied to." Asked whether they were lied to by the intelligence services or the White House, he said emphatically: "By the president, by the vice president and by the secretary of defense." "This country is less safe and less secure because of George Bush's decision to go to war alone and alienate the Arab and Islamic world and generate more recruits for al-Qaeda," he said.

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07-19-2004, 06:14 PM	#2
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	Cue the anticipated retort from the bush lemmings: "Max Cleland hates America!"

07-20-2004, 05:37 AM	#5
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	No, that would be Wilson. Ann Coulter is a editorialist. She has so much fun it's beyond crazy. She has so much fun she can't help but laugh, because noone has been able to touch her yet. All she does is tell the truth in straight forward element. Tell me one thing Ann Coulter has been caught lying about. Just one.

07-20-2004, 05:56 PM	#8
Exile_In_SJ Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,169	Cleland is just bitter, what else would you expect? He holds no weight with people not on the left end.

07-20-2004, 06:58 PM	#10
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	You mean there are people that actually listen to Coulter? I tuned out years ago when she and Couric had their little b****y session. I thought they were both crazy... Hmmm... So people actually listen to Coulter. I might have to tune in and see what the hell for (other than her looks).

07-20-2004, 07:12 PM	#12
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	Quotes "They had two levels of evidence. Anything that would confirm WMD in Iraq - very little scrutiny. Anything that showed Iraq did not have WMDs had a much higher gate to pass because if it were true, all of US policy towards Iraq would have fallen asunder." --David Kay, Bush's hand-picked "truth-finder," calling Bush a lying warmonger You mean there are people that actually listen to Coulter? Yep. Mostly rural, mostly uneducated white trash who vote repuke (read: consistently vote against their own political/economic interests.)

07-20-2004, 07:15 PM	#13
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694

07-20-2004, 07:42 PM	#15
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	how anyone can defend Coulter after those hateful remarks is beyond me. You have to understand that the retards who buy into Ann Slander's lies and distortions view politics like a football game: it's all about "go team GOP" no matter how crooked the republican party becomes.

07-21-2004, 02:29 AM	#16
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	Quotes "Considering that George Bush actively avoided combat duty and has pursued policies that have made the nation less secure, he is on very shaky ground when it comes to questioning the commitment that Vietnam vet John Kerry has to our national security. This is just more attack-dog politicking by an increasingly desperate, partisan White House." --Max Cleland, gave an arm and both legs for his country, yet that punk-ass Saxby Chambliss called him "another Osama bin Laden" for not voting with black-hearted Republican bastards, and in "hang-a-n*gger" Georgia, that's a winning strategy

07-21-2004, 02:32 AM	#17
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	You know, the more I think about it, I have to admit the repukes were right about something: Iraq isn't like Viet Nam. Bush had an exit strategy for Viet Nam.