Thin skin - The Orange Mane

Needa Pass Rush · 07-19-2004, 06:27 AM

People must just be trying to spin this to politically kick Ahnold in the nads. I mean, NOBODY could possibly be this thin skinned. What am I missing? Does a tongue in cheek go right by these people? Whatever.

Good for Ahnold for not apologizing. Tell 'em to lighten up, AS!

Democrats: Schwarzenegger Comment Sexist

Mon Jul 19, 5:50 AM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo!

By TIM MOLLOY, Associated Press Writer

LOS ANGELES - Democrats aren't amused by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (news - web sites)'s use of the mocking term "girlie men" to describe some lawmakers, although a spokesman for the governor said no apology would be forthcoming.

AP Photo

Schwarzenegger dished out the insult at a rally Saturday as he claimed Democrats were delaying the budget by catering to special interests. Democrats protested that the remark was sexist and homophobic.

"If they don't have the guts to come up here in front of you and say, 'I don't want to represent you, I want to represent those special interests, the unions, the trial lawyers ... if they don't have the guts, I call them girlie men," Schwarzenegger said to the cheering crowd at a mall food court in Ontario.

The governor lifted the term from a long-running "Saturday Night Live" skit in which two pompous, Schwarzenegger-worshipping weightlifters repeatedly use it to mock those who don't meet their standards of physical perfection.

Democrats said Schwarzenegger's remarks were insulting to women and gays and distracted from budget negotiations. State Sen. Sheila Kuehl said the governor had resorted to "blatant homophobia."

"It uses an image that is associated with gay men in an insulting way, and it was supposed to be an insult. That's very troubling that he would use such a homophobic way of trying to put down legislative leadership," said Kuehl, one of five members of the Legislature's five-member Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Caucus.

Schwarzenegger's criticism of Democrats stems in part from their support of one bill prohibiting schools from contracting services with private companies, and another giving workers authority to sue their employers to enforce labor laws. Each side accuses the other of caving in to special interests.

At a rally Sunday in Stockton, the governor gave a speech almost identical to the one he delivered in Ontario but without the "girlie men" remark. Spokesman Rob Stutzman said the line was dropped because Schwarzenegger had already sent the message he wanted to send, not because he regretted his remarks.

"It's a forceful way of making the point to regular Californians that legislators are wimps when they let special interests push them around," Stutzman said. "If they complain too much about this, I guess they're making the governor's point."

Assemblyman Mark Leno, a San Francisco Democrat who is chairman of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Caucus, said he was glad Schwarzenegger didn't repeat the "girlie men" remark Sunday, saying it was "as misogynist as it is anti-gay."

"To disparage a group of law abiding tax paying citizens is just wrong," Leno said.

Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez, a Democrat, said that while he wasn't upset by the remark, his 13-year-old daughter was.

"She's a young girl who knows the governor and really likes him a lot and didn't find the term to be a positive term, and finds it to be derogatory," Nunez said. "It was no question a very, very insensitive comment to make. I personally am not intimidated or threatened by it, but I think it really is beneath Gov. Schwarzenegger."

Rascal · 07-19-2004, 06:32 AM

Good grief. Talk about pathetic.

Don't get your panties twisted!

OrangeDoofus · 07-19-2004, 06:48 AM

I agree that Arnold shouldn't apologize. Neither should Whoopi Goldberg. People need to stop getting so worked up about these things.

jet19 · 07-19-2004, 07:06 AM

what a load of crap! they are girlie men its just that arnold isnt afraid to say, so fugg those smug bastards.
call the term "girlie men" homophopic and then go home and watch "qeer eye for the straight guy"

these people need to start doing more to help the american people instead of trying to protect us from what they deem appropriate.

-Slap- · 07-19-2004, 07:14 AM

Don't you think all bodybuilders are at least slightly queer? I mean, what kind of man stares at himself in the mirror for hours a day in narcissistic delight? These guys watch every calorie and wear speedos, they even shave their frigging chests! I say Arnold has been down the Hershey Highway more than once in his travels. Girlie man comments are typical for closet bufus.

jet19 · 07-19-2004, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Slap-

Don't you think all bodybuilders are at least slightly queer? I mean, what kind of man stares at himself in the mirror for hours a day in narcissistic delight? These guys watch every calorie and wear speedos, they even shave their frigging chests! I say Arnold has been down the Hershey Highway more than once in his travels. Girlie man comments are typical for closet bufus.

probably a good point slap

Jason in LA · 07-19-2004, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Slap-

Don't you think all bodybuilders are at least slightly queer? I mean, what kind of man stares at himself in the mirror for hours a day in narcissistic delight? These guys watch every calorie and wear speedos, they even shave their frigging chests! I say Arnold has been down the Hershey Highway more than once in his travels. Girlie man comments are typical for closet bufus.

It's part of the job. Kind of like football players wearing tights.

watermock · 07-19-2004, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Slap-

Don't you think all bodybuilders are at least slightly queer?

Really?

Quote:

I mean, what kind of man stares at himself in the mirror for hours a day in narcissistic delight?

Now both? Is that why he is immensely popular as the Governor? Do you think he will be re-elected Slappy?

Quote:

These guys watch every calorie and wear speedos, they even shave their frigging chests! I say Arnold has been down the Hershey Highway more than once in his travels. Girlie man comments are typical for closet bufus.

Now you accuse him of being homesexual when he is married. Oh, but if he would come off against gays, you would be all over him.

What a tool.

He's a literal hero in California and now he's going to be taken to task for a joke. And what did he say about girly boys?

Do you even remember what context he put it in?

SteveTensi13 · 07-19-2004, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Slap-

Don't you think all bodybuilders are at least slightly queer? I mean, what kind of man stares at himself in the mirror for hours a day in narcissistic delight? These guys watch every calorie and wear speedos, they even shave their frigging chests! I say Arnold has been down the Hershey Highway more than once in his travels. Girlie man comments are typical for closet bufus.

You sound like you speak from experience!

bendog · 07-19-2004, 08:02 AM

Pretty funny though considering ahnold's prolly done more priccs than there are priccs in the calif legislature

Exile_In_SJ · 07-19-2004, 08:12 AM

California is the perfect example of why you don't want Dems controlling the entire state, before Arnold showed up they totally ****ed it up. And they are resisting efforts now to get California back on its feet.

Girley men? I'd have used stronger terms... such as 'self-serving pocket lining crooks'

or simply, 'jackasses'

but it is funny how 'girley men' is so offensive and equating Bush to genetalia isn't to the media...

Needa Pass Rush · 07-19-2004, 08:18 AM

I laugh at the gay community calling anyone that thinks their lifestyle is distasteful by labeling or streotyping them as homophobic. A phobia is a fear whereas I would guess that most people that disagree with the homo's are not the least bit fearful. Yes, Ahnold is homoPHOBIC! Whatever, again.

pho·bi·a ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fb-)
n.
A persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear of a specific thing or situation that compels one to avoid it, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous.

Exile_In_SJ · 07-19-2004, 08:19 AM

but if it offended enough people, well, they can vote him out next term...

Exile_In_SJ · 07-19-2004, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez, a Democrat, said that while he wasn't upset by the remark, his 13-year-old daughter was.

"She's a young girl who knows the governor and really likes him a lot and didn't find the term to be a positive term, and finds it to be derogatory," Nunez said. "It was no question a very, very insensitive comment to make. I personally am not intimidated or threatened by it, but I think it really is beneath Gov. Schwarzenegger."

I'm willing to bet this is a load of hooey.. I seriously doubt his daughter is all that upset. She probably adores ahnold..

watermock · 07-19-2004, 08:27 AM

Mr. Liberal can't accept that Aarnold is extreemly popular.

Yeah, they are still Billions in debt, but he has stopped the bleeding.

You people don't even have a clue. He is a damn hero there.

Some California legislators are angry with Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger after he referred to them as "girlie-men" during a speech on Saturday.
The movie star-turned-politican used the term to describe opposition Democrats he said who are too weak to stand up to unions and trial lawyers demanding changes in the governor's state budget proposal.

The phrase comes from an old television comedy routine where two Schwarzengger-like bodybuilders use it to mock those who lack their bulging muscles.

Several Democratic lawmakers say the remark was insulting to women and homosexuals. State Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez said the comment was "beneath the governor."

But a Schwarzenegger spokesman says the comment was the governor's way of saying that legislators are "wimps" (weaklings) by giving into special interest groups.
-------------

They are just trying to block him.

He will turn them into marshmellows.

TheDave · 07-19-2004, 08:27 AM

a whole lot of folks need to grow up! there were alot of red asses going around because Ahnold called some people out. Personally i like the way the guy took this standoff to the mat.

TexanBob · 07-19-2004, 09:08 AM

Bodybuilders are the male equivalent of blondes.

Empty-headed egotists who base their entire worldview and value system on how one's body looks. It's one thing to lift weights and get strong for a purpose. It's another thing to do it purely for vanity which is what most of these guys do.

Arnold, to his credit, at least realized there was more to life so he went into acting and now politics. I don't always agree with him but at least he's not wasting his life checking out his pecs.

watermock · 07-19-2004, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexanBob

Bodybuilders are the male equivalent of blondes.

Empty-headed egotists who base their entire worldview and value system on how one's body looks. It's one thing to lift weights and get strong for a purpose. It's another thing to do it purely for vanity which is what most of these guys do.

Arnold, to his credit, at least realized there was more to life so he went into acting and now politics. I don't always agree with him but at least he's not wasting his life checking out his pecs.

The Aarnold could of played out the string making movies.

The left doesn't even have a clue how popular he is, and how is has to battle the left in California.

He is in a big battle over the budget right now.

They want to bring him down. Popular sentiment is behind him. This is a tidal wave waiting to happen.

-Slap- · 07-19-2004, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watermock

Really?

Now both? Is that why he is immensely popular as the Governor? Do you think he will be re-elected Slappy?

Now you accuse him of being homesexual when he is married. Oh, but if he would come off against gays, you would be all over him.

What a tool.

He's a literal hero in California and now he's going to be taken to task for a joke. And what did he say about girly boys?

Do you even remember what context he put it in?

Of course you defend him. Anybody who spews as much hostility towards women as you do is definitely a gay man who's afraid to come out of the closet. That's why you're so pent up, Wantsacock.

-Slap- · 07-19-2004, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexanBob

Bodybuilders are the male equivalent of blondes.

Empty-headed egotists who base their entire worldview and value system on how one's body looks. It's one thing to lift weights and get strong for a purpose. It's another thing to do it purely for vanity which is what most of these guys do.

Arnold, to his credit, at least realized there was more to life so he went into acting and now politics. I don't always agree with him but at least he's not wasting his life checking out his pecs.

Small *****, too.

watermock · 07-19-2004, 10:09 AM

God your a tool.

You don't think he will be re-elected there dipshiat?

Why shouldn't he be defended? Sounds like you have little boy syndrome.

Sounds more like you have a problem that he's doing well as Governor.

If I remember right.....you thought he would be a failure.

Why not admidt your an idiot and let it go. He's popular in California.

Did I even mention your insignificant whore mouth once?

What rathole did you crawl out of?

Hey listen Whore, did I ask for your opinion?

Did I rattle your chain?

You want to tell me the new governor is much more popular than the last one?

Your a total tool. You live for me don't you b****!

How amusing. I don't even mention you, but you sure have issues with me. Go chew on them.

Hey guess what moron, do you think Arnold will be reelected?

Huh?

Sit down and shut up GirlyBoy.

watermock · 07-19-2004, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Slap-

Small *****, too.

This is a good one. right off the back side.

How amusing. Slappy has brought penis size out three times in this thread.

Well, your a big dick. Want a trophy?

Exile_In_SJ · 07-19-2004, 10:38 AM

lol, I imagine Maria is pretty happy with Arnolds dick, so why worry?

Captain_Poncho · 07-19-2004, 10:40 AM

This is oh so typical of the homosexual community. If someone says anything that is less than glowing about them, or if they even perceive there's a hint of a slight aimed at them, even indirectly, they go bananas screaming about "homophobes" and "bigots."

They're Nazi-like in their bizarre bent on forcing the country to never ever make fun of them.

Meanwhile, they go parading in marches dressed in drag, or as giant condoms, vaginas or schwantzes, mocking nuns, Christians, etc., carrying signs that would make most anyone cringe.

They are the ultimate in the politically correct double standard.

Which makes them all, to me, a bunch of girlie men.

Tredici · 07-19-2004, 11:39 AM

This thread is funny. Actually I would prefer to hear either of the alternative phrases SJ mentioned.

But why not take the 13 year old girl at face value? Why pretend you know what she really thinks? Now that's insulting. The reason I don't care for this particular phrase is because it seemingly implies the inability to stand up to to special interests and do your job in a straight forward manner is somehow a feminine quality. (This could be what even a 13 year old girl is smart enough to think and stong enough to say). Why not just call them whimps? When Arnold gets home Maria probably turns him into one anyway. Hahahahahahaaha.

07-19-2004, 06:27 AM	#1
Needa Pass Rush Never say Always Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,211	Thin skin People must just be trying to spin this to politically kick Ahnold in the nads. I mean, NOBODY could possibly be this thin skinned. What am I missing? Does a tongue in cheek go right by these people? Whatever. Good for Ahnold for not apologizing. Tell 'em to lighten up, AS! Democrats: Schwarzenegger Comment Sexist Mon Jul 19, 5:50 AM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! By TIM MOLLOY, Associated Press Writer LOS ANGELES - Democrats aren't amused by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (news - web sites)'s use of the mocking term "girlie men" to describe some lawmakers, although a spokesman for the governor said no apology would be forthcoming. AP Photo Schwarzenegger dished out the insult at a rally Saturday as he claimed Democrats were delaying the budget by catering to special interests. Democrats protested that the remark was sexist and homophobic. "If they don't have the guts to come up here in front of you and say, 'I don't want to represent you, I want to represent those special interests, the unions, the trial lawyers ... if they don't have the guts, I call them girlie men," Schwarzenegger said to the cheering crowd at a mall food court in Ontario. The governor lifted the term from a long-running "Saturday Night Live" skit in which two pompous, Schwarzenegger-worshipping weightlifters repeatedly use it to mock those who don't meet their standards of physical perfection. Democrats said Schwarzenegger's remarks were insulting to women and gays and distracted from budget negotiations. State Sen. Sheila Kuehl said the governor had resorted to "blatant homophobia." "It uses an image that is associated with gay men in an insulting way, and it was supposed to be an insult. That's very troubling that he would use such a homophobic way of trying to put down legislative leadership," said Kuehl, one of five members of the Legislature's five-member Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Caucus. Schwarzenegger's criticism of Democrats stems in part from their support of one bill prohibiting schools from contracting services with private companies, and another giving workers authority to sue their employers to enforce labor laws. Each side accuses the other of caving in to special interests. At a rally Sunday in Stockton, the governor gave a speech almost identical to the one he delivered in Ontario but without the "girlie men" remark. Spokesman Rob Stutzman said the line was dropped because Schwarzenegger had already sent the message he wanted to send, not because he regretted his remarks. "It's a forceful way of making the point to regular Californians that legislators are wimps when they let special interests push them around," Stutzman said. "If they complain too much about this, I guess they're making the governor's point." Assemblyman Mark Leno, a San Francisco Democrat who is chairman of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Caucus, said he was glad Schwarzenegger didn't repeat the "girlie men" remark Sunday, saying it was "as misogynist as it is anti-gay." "To disparage a group of law abiding tax paying citizens is just wrong," Leno said. Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez, a Democrat, said that while he wasn't upset by the remark, his 13-year-old daughter was. "She's a young girl who knows the governor and really likes him a lot and didn't find the term to be a positive term, and finds it to be derogatory," Nunez said. "It was no question a very, very insensitive comment to make. I personally am not intimidated or threatened by it, but I think it really is beneath Gov. Schwarzenegger." Last edited by Needa Pass Rush; 07-19-2004 at 06:35 AM..

07-19-2004, 08:12 AM	#11
Exile_In_SJ Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,169	California is the perfect example of why you don't want Dems controlling the entire state, before Arnold showed up they totally ***ed it up. And they are resisting efforts now to get California back on its feet. Girley men? I'd have used stronger terms... such as 'self-serving pocket lining crooks' or simply, 'jackasses' but it is funny how 'girley men' is so offensive and equating Bush to genetalia isn't to the media... Last edited by Exile_In_SJ; 07-19-2004 at 08:14 AM..*

07-19-2004, 10:09 AM	#21
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	God your a tool. You don't think he will be re-elected there dipshiat? Why shouldn't he be defended? Sounds like you have little boy syndrome. Sounds more like you have a problem that he's doing well as Governor. If I remember right.....you thought he would be a failure. Why not admidt your an idiot and let it go. He's popular in California. Did I even mention your insignificant whore mouth once? What rathole did you crawl out of? Hey listen Whore, did I ask for your opinion? Did I rattle your chain? You want to tell me the new governor is much more popular than the last one? Your a total tool. You live for me don't you b***! How amusing. I don't even mention you, but you sure have issues with me. Go chew on them. Hey guess what moron, do you think Arnold will be reelected? Huh? Sit down and shut up GirlyBoy. Last edited by watermock; 07-19-2004 at 10:14 AM..*

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07-19-2004, 06:32 AM	#2
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	Good grief. Talk about pathetic. Don't get your panties twisted!

07-19-2004, 06:48 AM	#3
OrangeDoofus Ring of Famer (nationalchamps.net/Helmet_Project) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 2,318	I agree that Arnold shouldn't apologize. Neither should Whoopi Goldberg. People need to stop getting so worked up about these things.

07-19-2004, 07:06 AM	#4
jet19 Ring of Famer lucky horse Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 1,227	what a load of crap! they are girlie men its just that arnold isnt afraid to say, so fugg those smug bastards. call the term "girlie men" homophopic and then go home and watch "qeer eye for the straight guy" these people need to start doing more to help the american people instead of trying to protect us from what they deem appropriate.

07-19-2004, 07:14 AM	#5
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	Don't you think all bodybuilders are at least slightly queer? I mean, what kind of man stares at himself in the mirror for hours a day in narcissistic delight? These guys watch every calorie and wear speedos, they even shave their frigging chests! I say Arnold has been down the Hershey Highway more than once in his travels. Girlie man comments are typical for closet bufus.

07-19-2004, 08:02 AM	#10
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	Pretty funny though considering ahnold's prolly done more priccs than there are priccs in the calif legislature

07-19-2004, 08:18 AM	#12
Needa Pass Rush Never say Always Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,211	I laugh at the gay community calling anyone that thinks their lifestyle is distasteful by labeling or streotyping them as homophobic. A phobia is a fear whereas I would guess that most people that disagree with the homo's are not the least bit fearful. Yes, Ahnold is homoPHOBIC! Whatever, again. pho·bi·a ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fb-) n. A persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear of a specific thing or situation that compels one to avoid it, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous.

07-19-2004, 08:19 AM	#13
Exile_In_SJ Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,169	but if it offended enough people, well, they can vote him out next term...

07-19-2004, 08:27 AM	#15
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Mr. Liberal can't accept that Aarnold is extreemly popular. Yeah, they are still Billions in debt, but he has stopped the bleeding. You people don't even have a clue. He is a damn hero there. Some California legislators are angry with Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger after he referred to them as "girlie-men" during a speech on Saturday. The movie star-turned-politican used the term to describe opposition Democrats he said who are too weak to stand up to unions and trial lawyers demanding changes in the governor's state budget proposal. The phrase comes from an old television comedy routine where two Schwarzengger-like bodybuilders use it to mock those who lack their bulging muscles. Several Democratic lawmakers say the remark was insulting to women and homosexuals. State Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez said the comment was "beneath the governor." But a Schwarzenegger spokesman says the comment was the governor's way of saying that legislators are "wimps" (weaklings) by giving into special interest groups. ------------- They are just trying to block him. He will turn them into marshmellows.

07-19-2004, 08:27 AM	#16
TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	a whole lot of folks need to grow up! there were alot of red asses going around because Ahnold called some people out. Personally i like the way the guy took this standoff to the mat.

07-19-2004, 09:08 AM	#17
TexanBob Don't Argue With Me You Know I'm Right Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,023 Adopt-a-Bronco: Darris Nash	Bodybuilders are the male equivalent of blondes. Empty-headed egotists who base their entire worldview and value system on how one's body looks. It's one thing to lift weights and get strong for a purpose. It's another thing to do it purely for vanity which is what most of these guys do. Arnold, to his credit, at least realized there was more to life so he went into acting and now politics. I don't always agree with him but at least he's not wasting his life checking out his pecs.

07-19-2004, 10:38 AM	#23
Exile_In_SJ Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,169	lol, I imagine Maria is pretty happy with Arnolds dick, so why worry?

07-19-2004, 10:40 AM	#24
Captain_Poncho A.K.A. Nick the Merciless Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 461	This is oh so typical of the homosexual community. If someone says anything that is less than glowing about them, or if they even perceive there's a hint of a slight aimed at them, even indirectly, they go bananas screaming about "homophobes" and "bigots." They're Nazi-like in their bizarre bent on forcing the country to never ever make fun of them. Meanwhile, they go parading in marches dressed in drag, or as giant condoms, vaginas or schwantzes, mocking nuns, Christians, etc., carrying signs that would make most anyone cringe. They are the ultimate in the politically correct double standard. Which makes them all, to me, a bunch of girlie men.

07-19-2004, 11:39 AM	#25
Tredici Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10,010	This thread is funny. Actually I would prefer to hear either of the alternative phrases SJ mentioned. But why not take the 13 year old girl at face value? Why pretend you know what she really thinks? Now that's insulting. The reason I don't care for this particular phrase is because it seemingly implies the inability to stand up to to special interests and do your job in a straight forward manner is somehow a feminine quality. (This could be what even a 13 year old girl is smart enough to think and stong enough to say). Why not just call them whimps? When Arnold gets home Maria probably turns him into one anyway. Hahahahahahaaha.