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Old 06-06-2014, 01:50 PM   #1
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Default NFL’s Best Running Quarterback? The Answer May Surprise You



NFL’s Best Running Quarterback? The Answer May Surprise You
Athletic QBs add a new dimension to offenses, but often the decision to scramble comes at the expense of the passing game. Hours of film study show how Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick and Robert Griffin III rate as decision-makers—and difference-makers—with their legs

Two weeks ago I spent some time at NFL Films, a mecca for any football nerd. They have an incredible system for all their footage and audio, called Saber. Using Saber you can, among other things, view and sort All-22 coaches film by almost any factor imaginable. Want to see every Peyton Manning pass on 2nd-and-8 since 2005? You can! How about every Patrick Willis third-quarter tackle? Of course! Or every incompletion targeted for Darrius Heyward-Bey? You bet! (If you have a month to spend, anyway.)

I took the opportunity to break down every run by Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick, Robert Griffin III and Andrew Luck from the 2013 regular season. Each player, save for Luck, had about 100 rushing attempts. After watching them all in a row, you start to notice patterns. I charted those patterns, focusing on (a) how successful each player’s scrambles and designed runs were, and (b) whether the scrambles stemmed from good or bad decisions.

So often, running quarterbacks run because they can’t recognize where to throw. I’m not talking about receivers being covered or the defense befuddling a passer; I’m talking about a QB dropping back and failing to execute within the structure of a well-designed play. Sacks often stem from this, too, which is why I also charted them in a separate study.

Football is not baseball; no statistical formula can portray exactly what is happening on the field. I would have loved to include incomplete passes in my study because, like scrambles and sacks, they often stem from undeveloped decision-making and unrefined fundamentals. Unfortunately, with only five days available at NFL Films, and only 12 hours available in each of those days, there was not enough time to view every incompletion.

Nevertheless, the running plays and sacks revealed plenty. The conclusions: Newton, Wilson and Kaepernick are insanely talented athletes, Griffin was not himself last year and Luck is a comparable athlete to all of them and an overwhelmingly better quarterback.

Here are the specifics…

Sacks

Player Sacks Taken QB at Fault Pct. QB at Fault
Andrew Luck 36 0 0.0%
Cam Newton 47 9 19.1%
Colin Kaepernick 37 8 21.6%
Robert Griffin III 38 10 26.3%
Russell Wilson 48 15 31.3%

That’s right: Luck was not the primary culpable offender for a single sack he took. The extremity of that statistic—ZERO!—is surprising, but the gist of it is not. Quarterbacks who keep their eyes downfield and move in the pocket with near-perfect mechanics don’t create their own sacks.

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He took 36 sacks and none of them were his fault? None?

That seems a bit fishy to me.
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He took 36 sacks and none of them were his fault? None?

That seems a bit fishy to me.
check the charts in the article

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Also worth noting: Some of the “protection concept” sacks—and, to a lesser degree, some of the coverage sacks—could be on the quarterback, depending on what his play-calling and protection-setting responsibilities are. But without being in the team meetings, we have no way of knowing that.
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Also worth noting: Some of the “protection concept” sacks—and, to a lesser degree, some of the coverage sacks—could be on the quarterback, depending on what his play-calling and protection-setting responsibilities are. But without being in the team meetings, we have no way of knowing that.
Yeah that chart is BS. It is not even mathematically possible to incur 36 sacks without it being your fault at some point. That doesn't even include the number of hits he's taken over his first two seasons. At one point RGIII was the only guy who had taken more.
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Yeah that chart is BS. It is not even mathematically possible to incur 36 sacks without it being your fault at some point. That doesn't even include the number of hits he's taken over his first two seasons. At one point RGIII was the only guy who had taken more.
The point of that stat was about self inflicted sacks...
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Lock it up guys, only Action gets to talk about this.
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The point of that stat was about self inflicted sacks...
Which usually occurs when you hold onto the ball too long
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Which usually occurs when you hold onto the ball too long
That is not what the article is talking about - God damn you are stupid.
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Lock it up guys, only Action gets to talk about this.
Where did this even come from? I'm on a internet forum - you really think I expect people whom discuss the sport to all have played it?
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That is not what the article is talking about - God damn you are stupid.
I know what the article is about, I looked at the charts and anyone with common can see that it's subjective conjecture and absolute BS.
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Theres a much better way to look at all this and it involves.....

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I would love to watch Action and Cito have a spelling bee.
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I know what the article is about, I looked at the charts and anyone with common can see that it's subjective conjecture and absolute BS.
Subjective? So how can Coverage - Blocking - Concept subjective categories?

What's happening here is you're misunderstanding what he means by the sack being at fault in the QB category.

The writer spent a week going over film and you want to throw it of because you don't understand. The only common thing you have is dumbassness most people have.

And take the article for what it's truly for - comparing the QBs. You obviously missed that point too.
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Considering you are consistently the most utterly useless poster in every single thread - watching spelling bee's would probably be more of your thing than watching football.
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Hey Action, I think it's time for some good ole' hearty oatmeal.

Best running QB isn't just how good a guy is at scrambling or avoiding sacks. Running is making plays once you start to run as well. How many yards you get, how many TD's you score, etc. Just because a dude runs because he doesn't know where to go with the ball doesn't mean his runs are any less successful, especially if he makes big plays. Now, he may be the best combo QB, best runner/thrower. But if you're going to just lay a generic title down like best running QB, that's not Luck.
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Hey Action, I think it's time for some good ole' hearty oatmeal.

Best running QB isn't just how good a guy is at scrambling or avoiding sacks. Running is making plays once you start to run as well. How many yards you get, how many TD's you score, etc. Just because a dude runs because he doesn't know where to go with the ball doesn't mean his runs are any less successful, especially if he makes big plays. Now, he may be the best combo QB, best runner/thrower. But if you're going to just lay a generic title down like best running QB, that's not Luck.
Would definitely agree than Luck isn't the best running QB if you're laying that title down - as this article is talking about efficiency. I'd probably say Cam is the best running QB if we're throwing down generics.
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makes me want to bump the Lucked Sucked thread
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Considering you are consistently the most utterly useless poster in every single thread - watching spelling bee's would probably be more of your thing than watching football.
Rabb might take great pride in seeing you lose in the third round to a twelve year old from Sri Lanka.
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