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Old 06-25-2004, 03:26 PM   #101
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Why did I read this thread?
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Old 06-25-2004, 03:26 PM   #102
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I seriously can't read all of that...my attention span isn't long enough anymore

when I was a little boy I had nintendo and it ruined my attention span......
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Old 06-25-2004, 03:28 PM   #103
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this is really giving me a good laugh, because through it all robb just keeps posting his long sermons that as of yet no one has read.
this is unintentional humor of course, but its still the funniest thread ive read in awhile.
thanks robb and listo.
i mean no offense to anyone by this statement. im just finding a much needed laugh.

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Old 06-25-2004, 03:28 PM   #104
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I don't honestly understand why anyone would read through all of this stuff. Unless you're fond of spam.
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Old 06-25-2004, 03:43 PM   #105
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Old 06-25-2004, 03:50 PM   #106
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Why did I read this thread?
Actually I read almost everything that Listo cut and pasted because it's an analogue of history that I have read from other sources....I'll save my thoughts on Robb's quotings of scripture that has been manipulated to satisfy the masses for another post...I have to type, I can find no website to post my thoughts without wearing out my keyboard
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I'll try to post the audio of the Monty Python Spam sketch. For anyone not familiar with the show, this is how the term "Spam" came to represent content that you encounter on the internet that you don't really want. Like when someone posts huge articles, or cuts-and-pastes paragraph after paragraph instead of actually creating posts on a messageboard.



And yes, I realise that to some of you this will constitute "Spam". But this appears to be the very thread for it.
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Old 06-25-2004, 04:03 PM   #108
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Somthing youthought you would never hear .................... MORE SPAM PLEASE
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Old 06-25-2004, 05:57 PM   #109
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I just find it hilarious that this thread has grown to 5 pages and still growing. Usually ol' Robb is ignored...
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I don't think that has changed, Crushaholic...

All though it has probably been mentioned somewhere in previously posting, is there a better representative of what occurs when there is no separation of church and state than the Middle East?

Thousands of years of existence. Progress? Little to none.
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Old 06-25-2004, 10:17 PM   #111
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I don't think that has changed, Crushaholic...

All though it has probably been mentioned somewhere in previously posting, is there a better representative of what occurs when there is no separation of church and state than the Middle East?

Thousands of years of existence. Progress? Little to none.
I don't think the terrorist activity is a true representation of the Muslim faith. If it IS, then I won't consider the Muslim religion a legitimate religion.
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Old 06-25-2004, 11:39 PM   #112
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A Reading from the Book of Armaments, Chapter 4, Verses 16 to 20:



"Then did he raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the people did rejoice and did feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals ... Now did the Lord say, "First thou pullest the Holy Pin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."
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Old 06-26-2004, 12:38 PM   #113
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BTW-I love this skit.

Does anyone realize that Robbs a moron and an anti-American way bigot that likes to waste everyones time and mental energy with his three page long "announcments" that he has no life. Can we just ignore him. The more posts we add to this dumb ass, the more he'll post. just neg rep him and move along. I hate to see a large group of intelligent people argue with a degenerate like Robb. Now, if you ask me, TJ should be the most upset, how much Bandwidth does robb take up when he rambles like that? Gotta get expensive!
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Old 06-26-2004, 07:51 PM   #115
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Yes, I'm making a outrageous statement. First, all parents who were married and have no extraordinary circumstances to stop them, should today, I said today, remove their children from public school. If you are thinking of getting married you should postpone the wedding until it is agreed that if you have children, one of you will stay home to educate. All sacrifices of material wealth should be made to meet this end.

First, the definition of education. The bringing up, as of a child, instruction, formation of manners, enlightenment and understanding, correct the temper, and form the manners and habits of youth, and fit them for usefulness in their future stations. To give children a good education and manners, arts and science, is important, to give them a religious education is indispensable, and an immense responsibility rest on parents and guardians who neglect these duties. - Webster's dictionary 1828.

Now let's look at the definition given by today's Merriam-Webster Colgate dictionary online.

The act or process of educating or being educated, a stage of such process, the knowledge and development resulting from an educational process, the field of study that deals mainly with methods of teaching and learning in schools.

That sound you hear is Noah Webster spinning in his grave. This is the dictionary your government schoolchildren and teachers use. Someone decides which books and reference materials are used in the schools. They are selected by the state. The history books, philosophy books, science books are all selected by the government! Even the definition of words becomes a de facto function of government. It's appalling, it turns my stomach, because education is a decidedly religious activity. Why? All human endeavor is constrained, informed, defined in and printed with the worldview of individual or institution. And worldview is the belief system determined by religious belief? It is defined by the answers given to a few questions.

What is the purpose of life? What happens when we die? How did life come into being?

Your answers to these questions determine how you approach every single endeavor of your life. All institutions have a worldview too, and it affects every single endeavor in which they engage. Therefore, the simple act of defining the word education, requires judgment. OK you say, don't just teach anything which requires worldview judgments. That's impossible, let's see why. Take history class as example,

Student: Was Hitler right to kill Jews?

Teacher: No

Student: Why?

Teacher: because it is wrong to kill innocent people.

Student: Why? [This is where it gets sticky. The answer is determined solely by your worldview.]

Teacher: Because God says so.[Now that is the correct answer, but we can't talk about the reality of God in government schools so...]

Teacher: because it's against the law!

Student: Why?

Teacher: because the government says so!

Student: What if the government says it's OK?

Teacher: But the government wouldn't say that!

Student: The government of Germany did.

You see, our system forbids government to teach morality, it cannot teach about the Holocaust. To take the concept of immorality out of the subject of the Holocaust is impossible without denying truth. Education by definition requires the search for truth. Therefore government must teach about immorality, which the government can't do. Therefore, the government can't teach. That's why Government education is an oxymoron.

Government can't educate without a destroying the very object of education, the search for truth. Either government employees dictate truth, to the impressionable youth or the government employee insists that object truth does not exist. Either alternative is ludicrous and unthinkable to the rational mind.

By its very nature, government is hostile to any authority higher than itself. God, being that authority, will eventually be removed from all subjects in order to lift up the state by marginalizing or eradicating the reality of God. Government is power in force. Inherently, government only checks its growth when forced. One way to consolidate its power is to indoctrinate youth in their most formative years, and that philosophy will never be eradicated.

Lenin said: "Give me a child for the first five years of his life and he will be mine forever." Lincoln said: " The philosophy of the schoolroom in one generation will be the philosophy of governance in the next." We reject established religion and state-controlled press in our nation, yet the single greatest guarantee of those two evils is government education. Government controlled education is a means to it an end, not the end itself. A parent will sacrifice many things in defiance of tyranny, name, position, money, power. But when it comes to our kids, the state knows are Achilles' heel and it will use that to its advantage. The threat of social service thugs invading the homes of innocent Americans to wrest the children from the parents arms in retaliation or for purposes of intimidation has been exhaustively documented.

Government control education allows government to set the standards of what is taught and how it is taught. Is government able to teach anything that will contradict its own interests? The answer is a resounding no! Government cannot self critique. Are all American wars moral? Is paper money constitutional? Is the Federal Reserve legal? Were Wilson, FDR or LBJ good presidents and moral men? Is Ritalin good for children? Is ADD caused by the methods of government education? The mandated vaccinations cause crib death, asthma and allergies? Is there anything safe about sex outside of marriage? Does abortion kill a baby? Do we live in a democracy or a Republic? Is Socialism moral and is man destroying the earth? If you can't tell me the civil government answer to these questions, you haven't been in a government school! The issues are dressed every day and they are framed with the government's perspective. If the child objects, he or she is made and object of ridicule and disgust by government school educators and students. Now asked yourself, is that the role of Republican government?
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The question I want to ask you is... Do you want to get your kid into the college of their choice? Increasing numbers of homeschooled are getting the attention of even the most elite colleges. It's also the test scores. Homeschooled SAT takers have higher scores on the SAT than the entire SAT taking population as a whole, the homeschooled students averaging 568 on the verbal test out of a possible 800, and 525 on the math, compared with 506 verbal and 514 math for the national average of SAT test takers. College admissions offices also cite other plus factors for homeschoolers. For example, many colleges are looking for diversity among their prospective students, and that includes homeschooling rather than the cookie-cutter backgrounds of public and prep school counterparts. Any admissions officer will tell you they like students who bring a unique experience to campus, whether that means homeschoolers or students who have lived in... Thailand. This is a quote of Harvard University Director of admissions, "often were impressed by what someone has done under unusual circumstances, and homeschooling fits the bill." Homeschooled students are impressing top colleges in other ways too. The distinguishing factor for admission selection is intellectual vitality. And homeschoolers have it folks. Stanford, has been so impressed with its homeschooled applicants that its admissions office began tracking homeschooled students since 1999 to learn more about them. Stanford and other prestigious schools now special guidelines abiding students with appropriate SAT's who have been homeschooled how best to approach the College admissions procedures so as to make up for their lack of traditional credentials, including that absent transcript with its grades and list of courses taken. But, approximate one half of American colleges and universities require homeschooled students to take additional standardized test, sometimes including the GED high school equivalency test and some even as many as eight SATII subject tests. Which equals to a heavy load of testing, and is nothing more than government harassment. So if you need help in the process that is difficult for most, all schooling experts advise students to build a document record of activities in their community to provide evidence of leadership, the quality prize by many colleges. They also like homeschooled students to get to know influential adults who might write letters recommended that otherwise would be written by teachers. So there are some obstacles to overcome, but you can do it, your kids deserve the very best.
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All right. Robb has now cut + paste this thing onto 3 different threads. This has got to stop at some point. People can respond to this in the Butt, or in the POlitics forum. Enough is enough.
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Old 06-26-2004, 08:24 PM   #118
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The school respect for the founding fathers cannot be missed, from the front door to the heart of its program. It's those principles of freedom that articulate the need to be taken to the Next Generation if we are ever going to have any leaders that understand what it takes to maintain a free country. I'm telling you that a higher caliber of students that schools seek most are found in the home school movement. I'm telling you we need to create schools that have the intellectual rigor of the Ivy League today and the spiritual character of the Ivy League 200 years ago. Can you understand that? Or do you need to graduate little Johnny's drone curriculum before you are granted a clue? I'm talking about competing with the nation's elite institutions. Creationism is considered faux science. It's not enough to teach evolution. Apparently, we have to teach that evolution is the only way to think about things. Do you want to get your kids into a competitive law school, like William and Mary College, George Mason University and American University? Wake up America!
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All right. Robb has now cut + paste this thing onto 3 different threads. This has got to stop at some point. People can respond to this in the Butt, or in the POlitics forum. Enough is enough.

Quiet kid, the moderators are in that narrow range of joyless existence between happiness and sleep. They already monitor my REM patterns and beep whenever I nod off. They have sensors that detect my pulse and breathing rates to determine whether I'm downloading pornography. Yes, moderators must sleep too.
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Old 06-27-2004, 09:13 AM   #120
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Old 06-27-2004, 12:24 PM   #121
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his sermons and listo's return spam were humorous.

it went WAY past that is the last couple days.

this arrogant prick has NOTHING to offer, and has offended and annoyed pretty much everyone here.
after the hitler comment, its a damn travesty that he's allowed on the board.

one more time.
PLEASE get rid of this psychotic troll taco.

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Old 06-27-2004, 02:39 PM   #122
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you know glorymule once said to me that jesus said not to get drunk on wine...

i thought about it - and maybe - since jesus's blood is often symbolized as wine, maybe jesus was referring to such behavior seen.
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