Official Orange Mane Mock Draft 2004 - Page 5 - The Orange Mane

TheManeMan · 04-19-2004, 05:07 PM

The Arizona Cardinals select Kevin Jones RB, Virginia Tech

TheManeMan · 04-19-2004, 05:07 PM

1 San Diego - watermock - Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami, OH
2 Oakland - EMPTY - Eli Manning QB, Ole Miss
3 Arizona - CB-Champ24 - Larry Fitzgerald WR, Pittsburgh
4 N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 - Robert Gallery OT, Iowa
5 Washington - ChampBailey24 - Kenechi Udeze DE, USC
6 Detroit - Rich Karlis - Sean Taylor S, Miami
7 Cleveland - Bosko - Kellen Winslow Jr. TE, Miami
8 Atlanta - o robbey - Roy Williams WR, Texas
9 Cincinnati - CB-Champ24 ( from Jacksonville) DeAngelo Hall CB, Virginia Tech
10 Houston - Bosko - Mike Williams WR, USC
11 Pittsburgh - BombsOverBaghdad - Phillip Rivers QB, North Carolina St.
12 N.Y. Jets - SoCalBronco - Chris Gamble CB, Ohio St.
13 Denver - Finger Roll (from Buffalo) - Tommy Harris DT, Oklahoma
14 Chicago - DivineLegion - Vince Wilfork DT, Miami
15 Tampa Bay - Play2Win - Reggie Williams WR, Washington
16 San Francisco - SoCalBronco - Randy Starks DT, Maryland
17 Jacksonville - eddie mac (from Cincinnati) - Will Smith DE, Ohio State
18 New Orleans - watermock - Shawn Andrews OT, Arkansas
19 Minnesota - DenFan38 - D.J. Williams LB, Miami
20 Miami - BritBronco Maniac - Lee Evans WR, Wisconsin
21 New England - BroncoInferno - Stephen Jackson RB, Oregon State
22 Indianapolis - bpc (from Dallas) - Jonathan Vilma LB. Miami U.
23 Seattle - BombsOverBaghdad - Marquise Hill DT, LSU
24 Buffalo - Old Dude (from Denver) - Ben Troupe TE, Florida
25 Green Bay - Or@ngeM@n12 - JP Losman QB, Tulane
26 Tennessee - Finger Roll (from St. Louis) - Dunta Robinson CB, South Carolina
27 Tennessee - Finger Roll - Rashaun Woods WR, Oklahoma State
28 Philadelphia - Rich Karlis - Derrick Strait CB, Oklahoma
29 Dallas - bpc (from Indianapolis) - Karlos Dansby LB, Auburn
30 Kansas City - broncolife - Michael Clayton WR, LSU
31 San Francisco - SoCalBronco (From Carolina) - Michael Jenkins WR, Ohio St
32 New England - BroncoInferno - Vernon Carey G/T, Miami

2ND ROUND

Houston (from Oakland -- Exercised in Supplemental Draft)
33 Arizona - CB-Champ24 - Kevin Jones RB, Virginia Tech
34 N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12
35 San Diego - watermock
36 Detroit - Rich Karlis
37 Cleveland - Bosko
38 Atlanta - o robbey
39 Jacksonville - eddie mac
40 Houston - Bosko
41 Denver (from Washington ) - Finger Roll
42 St. Louis (from Tennessee) - broncolife
43 Buffalo - Old Dude
44 Pittsburgh - BombsOverBaghdad
45 Oakland (from Tampa Bay ) - EMPTY
46 Carolina (fromSan Francisco) - DivineLegion
47 Chicago - DivineLegion
48 New Orleans - watermock
49 Jacksonville (from Cincinnati) - eddie mac
50 Minnesota - DenFan38
51 Baltimore - CB-Champ24
52 Dallas - bpc
53 Seattle - BombsOverBaghdad
54 Buffalo (from Denver) - Old Dude
55 Green Bay - Or@ngeM@n12
56 Cincinnati (from Miami through New England) - CB-Champ24
57 St.Louis (from Tennessee) - broncolife
58 Philadelphia - Rich Karlis
59 Indianapolis - bpc
60 New Orleans (from St. Louis ) - watermock
61 Kansas City - royr17
62 Carolina - DivineLegion
63 New England - BroncoInferno

N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 is now on the clock....

BroncoInferno · 04-19-2004, 05:09 PM

Sorry CB.......changed my pick to Vernon Carey, G/T, Miami...........is that cool?

TheManeMan · 04-19-2004, 05:11 PM

watermock · 04-19-2004, 05:45 PM

Dammit. I would of taken Jones regardless of having LT2.

Then San Diego could of shipped Brees off and possibly LT2 because he's going to have a monster contract coming up.

Now I gotta dig around.

broncolife · 04-19-2004, 05:48 PM

I think we should cut the time limit now, since its the second round and the draft is approaching. How about 12 hours instead of 24?

TheManeMan · 04-19-2004, 05:51 PM

will do broncolife...12 hours from the time of the last selection to make your pick....If 12 hours go by then, we will vote on a consensus for your team

royr17 · 04-20-2004, 02:53 PM

How many rounds are we doing, we cant do 7 it has to be 3 or 4 cause theres not enough time for 7 rounds since the NFL Draft is this saturday and sunday.

TheManeMan · 04-20-2004, 02:55 PM

Who would the Giants pick right now...times up for Or@ngeM@n12

TheManeMan · 04-20-2004, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by royr17

How many rounds are we doing, we cant do 7 it has to be 3 or 4 cause theres not enough time for 7 rounds since the NFL Draft is this saturday and sunday.

We are going as fast as we can...too many laggers and what not but, we'll do as many picks up until 9am pacific time

Rich Karlis · 04-20-2004, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CB-Champ24

Who would the Giants pick right now...times up for Or@ngeM@n12

Justin Smiley, OG, Alabama

Matt Ware, S, UCLA

Will Poole, CB, Southern California

Sean Jones, FS, Georgia

eddie mac · 04-20-2004, 03:36 PM

Champ, 12 hrs is still too much IMO, with only approx 90 hrs left till the draft. Could we try 6 hrs max per pick.

Old Dude · 04-20-2004, 03:40 PM

They could also use a good MLB.

Vilma's gone. Daryl Smith, possibly.

TheManeMan · 04-20-2004, 04:14 PM

I'd say Will Poole would be a good choice...as for 12 hours, lets make it 6, thats cool with me...i just might not be around all the time to update...but, I'll try

royr17 · 04-20-2004, 05:20 PM

How about this all picks have to be made in one day for round 2, all picks tomorrow for round 3, all picks for round 4 and 5 on thursday, and the round 6 and 7 on friday.

That is the only way its going to get done. If they dont pick than we just proxy there pick.

TheManeMan · 04-20-2004, 09:12 PM

Its not going to work for this draft...too many people are busy and wont be able to come on the Mane everyday until Saturday to make draft picks...as for the NY Giants they select Will Poole CB, USC

TheManeMan · 04-20-2004, 09:13 PM

1 San Diego - watermock - Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami, OH
2 Oakland - EMPTY - Eli Manning QB, Ole Miss
3 Arizona - CB-Champ24 - Larry Fitzgerald WR, Pittsburgh
4 N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 - Robert Gallery OT, Iowa
5 Washington - ChampBailey24 - Kenechi Udeze DE, USC
6 Detroit - Rich Karlis - Sean Taylor S, Miami
7 Cleveland - Bosko - Kellen Winslow Jr. TE, Miami
8 Atlanta - o robbey - Roy Williams WR, Texas
9 Cincinnati - CB-Champ24 ( from Jacksonville) DeAngelo Hall CB, Virginia Tech
10 Houston - Bosko - Mike Williams WR, USC
11 Pittsburgh - BombsOverBaghdad - Phillip Rivers QB, North Carolina St.
12 N.Y. Jets - SoCalBronco - Chris Gamble CB, Ohio St.
13 Denver - Finger Roll (from Buffalo) - Tommy Harris DT, Oklahoma
14 Chicago - DivineLegion - Vince Wilfork DT, Miami
15 Tampa Bay - Play2Win - Reggie Williams WR, Washington
16 San Francisco - SoCalBronco - Randy Starks DT, Maryland
17 Jacksonville - eddie mac (from Cincinnati) - Will Smith DE, Ohio State
18 New Orleans - watermock - Shawn Andrews OT, Arkansas
19 Minnesota - DenFan38 - D.J. Williams LB, Miami
20 Miami - BritBronco Maniac - Lee Evans WR, Wisconsin
21 New England - BroncoInferno - Stephen Jackson RB, Oregon State
22 Indianapolis - bpc (from Dallas) - Jonathan Vilma LB. Miami U.
23 Seattle - BombsOverBaghdad - Marquise Hill DT, LSU
24 Buffalo - Old Dude (from Denver) - Ben Troupe TE, Florida
25 Green Bay - Or@ngeM@n12 - JP Losman QB, Tulane
26 Tennessee - Finger Roll (from St. Louis) - Dunta Robinson CB, South Carolina
27 Tennessee - Finger Roll - Rashaun Woods WR, Oklahoma State
28 Philadelphia - Rich Karlis - Derrick Strait CB, Oklahoma
29 Dallas - bpc (from Indianapolis) - Karlos Dansby LB, Auburn
30 Kansas City - broncolife - Michael Clayton WR, LSU
31 San Francisco - SoCalBronco (From Carolina) - Michael Jenkins WR, Ohio St
32 New England - BroncoInferno - Vernon Carey G/T, Miami

2ND ROUND

Houston (from Oakland -- Exercised in Supplemental Draft)
33 Arizona - CB-Champ24 - Kevin Jones RB, Virginia Tech
34 N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 - Will Poole CB, USC
35 San Diego - watermock
36 Detroit - Rich Karlis
37 Cleveland - Bosko
38 Atlanta - o robbey
39 Jacksonville - eddie mac
40 Houston - Bosko
41 Denver (from Washington ) - Finger Roll
42 St. Louis (from Tennessee) - broncolife
43 Buffalo - Old Dude
44 Pittsburgh - BombsOverBaghdad
45 Oakland (from Tampa Bay ) - EMPTY
46 Carolina (fromSan Francisco) - DivineLegion
47 Chicago - DivineLegion
48 New Orleans - watermock
49 Jacksonville (from Cincinnati) - eddie mac
50 Minnesota - DenFan38
51 Baltimore - CB-Champ24
52 Dallas - bpc
53 Seattle - BombsOverBaghdad
54 Buffalo (from Denver) - Old Dude
55 Green Bay - Or@ngeM@n12
56 Cincinnati (from Miami through New England) - CB-Champ24
57 St.Louis (from Tennessee) - broncolife
58 Philadelphia - Rich Karlis
59 Indianapolis - bpc
60 New Orleans (from St. Louis ) - watermock
61 Kansas City - royr17
62 Carolina - DivineLegion
63 New England - BroncoInferno

San Diego - watermock is now on the clock

watermock · 04-20-2004, 10:19 PM

Sandy Eggo grabs this beast off the buffet table. I don't know if he can play, but he looks mean enough to at least SCARE Jake Plummer. The Bolts need WR's to compliment Big Ben, but the best pudding is gone. The best offense is a good defense, ask Larry Coyer.

Antwan Odom
NFL Position: Defensive End
College: Alabama
Class: Junior
Ht: 6-5 1/2
Wt: 274
40: 4.73

Strengths: Good size...Active...Quick...Very strong...A sack artist with great closing speed...Produced as a junior despite all the attention he got from opposing offenses...Solid versus the run. One of the most talented pass rushers in the nation. Is just a blur off the edge rushing, he is so agile and graceful for such a big man. Has great athletic skill, awesome speed rusher that can just knock the offensive tackle backward. Odom plays with wonderful strength and aggression, just a great looking defensive end.

Weaknesses: Health? Collapsed and was taken to hospital in a practice session. Doesn't have top end pure speed...Can improve his technique...Lacks stamina. Does not show much more than awesome pass rushing skills, is not a complete defensive end but really at that position pass rushing is your main job. Is a very long lengthy athlete but will obviously have to get better in run defense to help his professional stock. Sometimes gets out of position and doesn’t read the play. Needs a lot of work at reading the offense, and needs to play the team game and not sell out for the QB every play.

Notes: One of the best all-around defensive ends in the Draft. Would have been a sure top ten pick next year. As a junior is probably late first or early second rounder. Freak athlete, that is said a lot about pass rushing defensive ends but Odom is a freak. He is strong, quick and moves with such grace and mobility around the corner. If he fills out just a little more and works on his total game he will be a very high draft pick. One of the best looking pass rush prospects around.

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In mock's opinion, this beast is totally undrrated and overlooked after the Bama disaster at Sammy's stripper club sent their coach to the woodshed, which is pretty hard to do in Bama. That pesky alumni club always sending hookers to your room....poor coach. Mock takes a big helping of prime beef off the Buffet table.

With RDE's that can get to the QB, this is like stealing candy from children on halloween. Go check your Wal-Mart price on DE's that can get to QB's. Try 6-7 million per. Even Berry cashed in. RDE's that can bring it off the weak edge are almost priceless. Mock takes his pick and runs off with the candy.

Edit:

If this were reality, it would be funny to watch this guy chasing Big Ben around at rookie camp. Too bad I probably won't have time to pick a LT to make the cartoon complete.

TheManeMan · 04-20-2004, 11:44 PM

1 San Diego - watermock - Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami, OH
2 Oakland - EMPTY - Eli Manning QB, Ole Miss
3 Arizona - CB-Champ24 - Larry Fitzgerald WR, Pittsburgh
4 N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 - Robert Gallery OT, Iowa
5 Washington - ChampBailey24 - Kenechi Udeze DE, USC
6 Detroit - Rich Karlis - Sean Taylor S, Miami
7 Cleveland - Bosko - Kellen Winslow Jr. TE, Miami
8 Atlanta - o robbey - Roy Williams WR, Texas
9 Cincinnati - CB-Champ24 ( from Jacksonville) DeAngelo Hall CB, Virginia Tech
10 Houston - Bosko - Mike Williams WR, USC
11 Pittsburgh - BombsOverBaghdad - Phillip Rivers QB, North Carolina St.
12 N.Y. Jets - SoCalBronco - Chris Gamble CB, Ohio St.
13 Denver - Finger Roll (from Buffalo) - Tommy Harris DT, Oklahoma
14 Chicago - DivineLegion - Vince Wilfork DT, Miami
15 Tampa Bay - Play2Win - Reggie Williams WR, Washington
16 San Francisco - SoCalBronco - Randy Starks DT, Maryland
17 Jacksonville - eddie mac (from Cincinnati) - Will Smith DE, Ohio State
18 New Orleans - watermock - Shawn Andrews OT, Arkansas
19 Minnesota - DenFan38 - D.J. Williams LB, Miami
20 Miami - BritBronco Maniac - Lee Evans WR, Wisconsin
21 New England - BroncoInferno - Stephen Jackson RB, Oregon State
22 Indianapolis - bpc (from Dallas) - Jonathan Vilma LB. Miami U.
23 Seattle - BombsOverBaghdad - Marquise Hill DT, LSU
24 Buffalo - Old Dude (from Denver) - Ben Troupe TE, Florida
25 Green Bay - Or@ngeM@n12 - JP Losman QB, Tulane
26 Tennessee - Finger Roll (from St. Louis) - Dunta Robinson CB, South Carolina
27 Tennessee - Finger Roll - Rashaun Woods WR, Oklahoma State
28 Philadelphia - Rich Karlis - Derrick Strait CB, Oklahoma
29 Dallas - bpc (from Indianapolis) - Karlos Dansby LB, Auburn
30 Kansas City - broncolife - Michael Clayton WR, LSU
31 San Francisco - SoCalBronco (From Carolina) - Michael Jenkins WR, Ohio St
32 New England - BroncoInferno - Vernon Carey G/T, Miami

2ND ROUND

Houston (from Oakland -- Exercised in Supplemental Draft)
33 Arizona - CB-Champ24 - Kevin Jones RB, Virginia Tech
34 N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 - Will Poole CB, USC
35 San Diego - watermock - Antawn Odom DE, Alabama
36 Detroit - Rich Karlis
37 Cleveland - Bosko
38 Atlanta - o robbey
39 Jacksonville - eddie mac
40 Houston - Bosko
41 Denver (from Washington ) - Finger Roll
42 St. Louis (from Tennessee) - broncolife
43 Buffalo - Old Dude
44 Pittsburgh - BombsOverBaghdad
45 Oakland (from Tampa Bay ) - EMPTY
46 Carolina (fromSan Francisco) - DivineLegion
47 Chicago - DivineLegion
48 New Orleans - watermock
49 Jacksonville (from Cincinnati) - eddie mac
50 Minnesota - DenFan38
51 Baltimore - CB-Champ24
52 Dallas - bpc
53 Seattle - BombsOverBaghdad
54 Buffalo (from Denver) - Old Dude
55 Green Bay - Or@ngeM@n12
56 Cincinnati (from Miami through New England) - CB-Champ24
57 St.Louis (from Tennessee) - broncolife
58 Philadelphia - Rich Karlis
59 Indianapolis - bpc
60 New Orleans (from St. Louis ) - watermock
61 Kansas City - royr17
62 Carolina - DivineLegion
63 New England - BroncoInferno

Detroit - Rich Karlis is now on the clock

Arkie · 04-21-2004, 01:14 PM

Time's up! It's safe to assume that Detroit won't take Sean Jones since they took Sean Taylor in the first. Cleveland will jump on Sean Jones with the next pick.

Sean Jones FS Georgia
Height: 6-1 Weight: 212

OVERVIEW
Hard-hitting tackler with excellent leaping ability … Standout performer on special teams who proved to be invaluable in the Bulldogs secondary, playing free safety, strong safety and Rover during his career … An outstanding kick blocker, Jones served as defensive co-captain during his junior campaign … Played in 37 games, starting 24 times … Finished with 250 tackles (140 solos), an 8-yard sack, 10 stops for losses of 35 yards, four quarterback pressures, three fumble recoveries for 105 yards in returns, seven interceptions for 100 yards in returns, four blocked kicks, a pair of kickoff returns for 55 yards (27.5 avg.) and 10 punt returns for 160 yards (16.0 avg.) … His 10 interceptions rank 10th on the school's career-record list … His four blocked kicks topped the old school career record of three by Boss Bailey (1998-99, 2001-02), Kendrell Bell (1999-2000) and Corrie Collier (2000-01).

ANALYSIS
Positives: Has a well-defined body with solid overall muscle development, long arms and thick thighs and calves … Shows fluid change of direction agility and above average body control … Relentless tackler and big hitter who shows toughness and a willingness to compete for the ball … Has the foot speed and control needed to break coming out of his backpedal … Shows no wasted steps transitioning out of his breaks … Has an explosive short burst, staying low in his pads to make plays in front of him … Has the acceleration needed to mirror receivers in the deep zone … Shows explosion out of his turns … Uses his hands effectively to shock receivers in press coverage … Makes sharp turns to trail receivers down the sidelines … Has superb leaping ability, utilizing it greatly as a kick blocker … Times his leaps and extends his arms to snatch the ball at its high point … Has a good feel for turning and locating the ball … Gets in the mix and is willing to support vs. the run … Big hitter who will face up and wrap with strength … Makes every effort to strip the ball from his opponent and has the quick instincts to recover and advance the ball.
Negatives: Good wrap-up tackler, but sometimes dips with his shoulder and makes grab tackles, resulting in missed hits … Has above average hands, but needs to use them better to jolt blockers when trying to disengage near the line of scrimmage … Gets fooled some by play-action and when this happens, he needs to regain his depth quicker … Sometimes tries to freelance, which results in him neglecting his responsibilities in the zone.

o_robbie · 04-21-2004, 01:27 PM

I vote Marcus Tubbs DT for Detroit.

Rich Karlis · 04-21-2004, 01:44 PM

The Detroit Lions select: Chris Perry, RB, Michigan

TheManeMan · 04-21-2004, 05:16 PM

1 San Diego - watermock - Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami, OH
2 Oakland - EMPTY - Eli Manning QB, Ole Miss
3 Arizona - CB-Champ24 - Larry Fitzgerald WR, Pittsburgh
4 N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 - Robert Gallery OT, Iowa
5 Washington - ChampBailey24 - Kenechi Udeze DE, USC
6 Detroit - Rich Karlis - Sean Taylor S, Miami
7 Cleveland - Bosko - Kellen Winslow Jr. TE, Miami
8 Atlanta - o robbie - Roy Williams WR, Texas
9 Cincinnati - CB-Champ24 ( from Jacksonville) DeAngelo Hall CB, Virginia Tech
10 Houston - Bosko - Mike Williams WR, USC
11 Pittsburgh - BombsOverBaghdad - Phillip Rivers QB, North Carolina St.
12 N.Y. Jets - SoCalBronco - Chris Gamble CB, Ohio St.
13 Denver - Finger Roll (from Buffalo) - Tommy Harris DT, Oklahoma
14 Chicago - DivineLegion - Vince Wilfork DT, Miami
15 Tampa Bay - Play2Win - Reggie Williams WR, Washington
16 San Francisco - SoCalBronco - Randy Starks DT, Maryland
17 Jacksonville - eddie mac (from Cincinnati) - Will Smith DE, Ohio State
18 New Orleans - watermock - Shawn Andrews OT, Arkansas
19 Minnesota - DenFan38 - D.J. Williams LB, Miami
20 Miami - BritBronco Maniac - Lee Evans WR, Wisconsin
21 New England - BroncoInferno - Stephen Jackson RB, Oregon State
22 Indianapolis - bpc (from Dallas) - Jonathan Vilma LB. Miami U.
23 Seattle - BombsOverBaghdad - Marquise Hill DT, LSU
24 Buffalo - Old Dude (from Denver) - Ben Troupe TE, Florida
25 Green Bay - Or@ngeM@n12 - JP Losman QB, Tulane
26 Tennessee - Finger Roll (from St. Louis) - Dunta Robinson CB, South Carolina
27 Tennessee - Finger Roll - Rashaun Woods WR, Oklahoma State
28 Philadelphia - Rich Karlis - Derrick Strait CB, Oklahoma
29 Dallas - bpc (from Indianapolis) - Karlos Dansby LB, Auburn
30 Kansas City - broncolife - Michael Clayton WR, LSU
31 San Francisco - SoCalBronco (From Carolina) - Michael Jenkins WR, Ohio St
32 New England - BroncoInferno - Vernon Carey G/T, Miami

2ND ROUND

Houston (from Oakland -- Exercised in Supplemental Draft)
33 Arizona - CB-Champ24 - Kevin Jones RB, Virginia Tech
34 N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 - Will Poole CB, USC
35 San Diego - watermock - Antawn Odom DE, Alabama
36 Detroit - Rich Karlis - Chris Perry RB, Michigan
37 Cleveland - Bosko - Sean Jones FS, Georgia
38 Atlanta - o robbie -
39 Jacksonville - eddie mac
40 Houston - Bosko
41 Denver (from Washington ) - Finger Roll
42 St. Louis (from Tennessee) - broncolife
43 Buffalo - Old Dude
44 Pittsburgh - BombsOverBaghdad
45 Oakland (from Tampa Bay ) - EMPTY
46 Carolina (fromSan Francisco) - DivineLegion
47 Chicago - DivineLegion
48 New Orleans - watermock
49 Jacksonville (from Cincinnati) - eddie mac
50 Minnesota - DenFan38
51 Baltimore - CB-Champ24
52 Dallas - bpc
53 Seattle - BombsOverBaghdad
54 Buffalo (from Denver) - Old Dude
55 Green Bay - Or@ngeM@n12
56 Cincinnati (from Miami through New England) - CB-Champ24
57 St.Louis (from Tennessee) - broncolife
58 Philadelphia - Rich Karlis
59 Indianapolis - bpc
60 New Orleans (from St. Louis ) - watermock
61 Kansas City - royr17
62 Carolina - DivineLegion
63 New England - BroncoInferno

Atlanta - o robbie is now on the clock...

o_robbie · 04-22-2004, 06:27 AM

The Atlanta Falcons have a difficult time deciding between Smiley OG from Alabama, Dockett DT from FSU, and DE Jason Babin. Dan Reeves phoned in and was convinced the Falcons should draft the best available RB.

When its all said and done Darnell Dockett DT FSU is the pick.

TheManeMan · 04-22-2004, 10:22 AM

what did Dan Reeves have to do with the team? Didnt Jim Mora Jr "tell him to **** off, this isnt your team anymore?"

04-19-2004, 05:07 PM	#102
TheManeMan Ring of Famer DPOY Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 5,659	1 San Diego - watermock - Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami, OH 2 Oakland - EMPTY - Eli Manning QB, Ole Miss 3 Arizona - CB-Champ24 - Larry Fitzgerald WR, Pittsburgh 4 N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 - Robert Gallery OT, Iowa 5 Washington - ChampBailey24 - Kenechi Udeze DE, USC 6 Detroit - Rich Karlis - Sean Taylor S, Miami 7 Cleveland - Bosko - Kellen Winslow Jr. TE, Miami 8 Atlanta - o robbey - Roy Williams WR, Texas 9 Cincinnati - CB-Champ24 ( from Jacksonville) DeAngelo Hall CB, Virginia Tech 10 Houston - Bosko - Mike Williams WR, USC 11 Pittsburgh - BombsOverBaghdad - Phillip Rivers QB, North Carolina St. 12 N.Y. Jets - SoCalBronco - Chris Gamble CB, Ohio St. 13 Denver - Finger Roll (from Buffalo) - Tommy Harris DT, Oklahoma 14 Chicago - DivineLegion - Vince Wilfork DT, Miami 15 Tampa Bay - Play2Win - Reggie Williams WR, Washington 16 San Francisco - SoCalBronco - Randy Starks DT, Maryland 17 Jacksonville - eddie mac (from Cincinnati) - Will Smith DE, Ohio State 18 New Orleans - watermock - Shawn Andrews OT, Arkansas 19 Minnesota - DenFan38 - D.J. Williams LB, Miami 20 Miami - BritBronco Maniac - Lee Evans WR, Wisconsin 21 New England - BroncoInferno - Stephen Jackson RB, Oregon State 22 Indianapolis - bpc (from Dallas) - Jonathan Vilma LB. Miami U. 23 Seattle - BombsOverBaghdad - Marquise Hill DT, LSU 24 Buffalo - Old Dude (from Denver) - Ben Troupe TE, Florida 25 Green Bay - Or@ngeM@n12 - JP Losman QB, Tulane 26 Tennessee - Finger Roll (from St. Louis) - Dunta Robinson CB, South Carolina 27 Tennessee - Finger Roll - Rashaun Woods WR, Oklahoma State 28 Philadelphia - Rich Karlis - Derrick Strait CB, Oklahoma 29 Dallas - bpc (from Indianapolis) - Karlos Dansby LB, Auburn 30 Kansas City - broncolife - Michael Clayton WR, LSU 31 San Francisco - SoCalBronco (From Carolina) - Michael Jenkins WR, Ohio St 32 New England - BroncoInferno - Vernon Carey G/T, Miami 2ND ROUND Houston (from Oakland -- Exercised in Supplemental Draft) 33 Arizona - CB-Champ24 - Kevin Jones RB, Virginia Tech 34 N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 35 San Diego - watermock 36 Detroit - Rich Karlis 37 Cleveland - Bosko 38 Atlanta - o robbey 39 Jacksonville - eddie mac 40 Houston - Bosko 41 Denver (from Washington ) - Finger Roll 42 St. Louis (from Tennessee) - broncolife 43 Buffalo - Old Dude 44 Pittsburgh - BombsOverBaghdad 45 Oakland (from Tampa Bay ) - EMPTY 46 Carolina (fromSan Francisco) - DivineLegion 47 Chicago - DivineLegion 48 New Orleans - watermock 49 Jacksonville (from Cincinnati) - eddie mac 50 Minnesota - DenFan38 51 Baltimore - CB-Champ24 52 Dallas - bpc 53 Seattle - BombsOverBaghdad 54 Buffalo (from Denver) - Old Dude 55 Green Bay - Or@ngeM@n12 56 Cincinnati (from Miami through New England) - CB-Champ24 57 St.Louis (from Tennessee) - broncolife 58 Philadelphia - Rich Karlis 59 Indianapolis - bpc 60 New Orleans (from St. Louis ) - watermock 61 Kansas City - royr17 62 Carolina - DivineLegion 63 New England - BroncoInferno N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 is now on the clock.... Last edited by CB-Champ24; 04-19-2004 at 05:12 PM..

04-19-2004, 05:11 PM	#104
TheManeMan Ring of Famer DPOY Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 5,659	yeah

04-20-2004, 10:19 PM	#118
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Sandy Eggo grabs this beast off the buffet table. I don't know if he can play, but he looks mean enough to at least SCARE Jake Plummer. The Bolts need WR's to compliment Big Ben, but the best pudding is gone. The best offense is a good defense, ask Larry Coyer. Antwan Odom NFL Position: Defensive End College: Alabama Class: Junior Ht: 6-5 1/2 Wt: 274 40: 4.73 Strengths: Good size...Active...Quick...Very strong...A sack artist with great closing speed...Produced as a junior despite all the attention he got from opposing offenses...Solid versus the run. One of the most talented pass rushers in the nation. Is just a blur off the edge rushing, he is so agile and graceful for such a big man. Has great athletic skill, awesome speed rusher that can just knock the offensive tackle backward. Odom plays with wonderful strength and aggression, just a great looking defensive end. Weaknesses: Health? Collapsed and was taken to hospital in a practice session. Doesn't have top end pure speed...Can improve his technique...Lacks stamina. Does not show much more than awesome pass rushing skills, is not a complete defensive end but really at that position pass rushing is your main job. Is a very long lengthy athlete but will obviously have to get better in run defense to help his professional stock. Sometimes gets out of position and doesn’t read the play. Needs a lot of work at reading the offense, and needs to play the team game and not sell out for the QB every play. Notes: One of the best all-around defensive ends in the Draft. Would have been a sure top ten pick next year. As a junior is probably late first or early second rounder. Freak athlete, that is said a lot about pass rushing defensive ends but Odom is a freak. He is strong, quick and moves with such grace and mobility around the corner. If he fills out just a little more and works on his total game he will be a very high draft pick. One of the best looking pass rush prospects around. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- In mock's opinion, this beast is totally undrrated and overlooked after the Bama disaster at Sammy's stripper club sent their coach to the woodshed, which is pretty hard to do in Bama. That pesky alumni club always sending hookers to your room....poor coach. Mock takes a big helping of prime beef off the Buffet table. With RDE's that can get to the QB, this is like stealing candy from children on halloween. Go check your Wal-Mart price on DE's that can get to QB's. Try 6-7 million per. Even Berry cashed in. RDE's that can bring it off the weak edge are almost priceless. Mock takes his pick and runs off with the candy. Edit: If this were reality, it would be funny to watch this guy chasing Big Ben around at rookie camp. Too bad I probably won't have time to pick a LT to make the cartoon complete. Last edited by watermock; 04-20-2004 at 10:52 PM..

04-21-2004, 05:16 PM	#123
TheManeMan Ring of Famer DPOY Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 5,659	1 San Diego - watermock - Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami, OH 2 Oakland - EMPTY - Eli Manning QB, Ole Miss 3 Arizona - CB-Champ24 - Larry Fitzgerald WR, Pittsburgh 4 N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 - Robert Gallery OT, Iowa 5 Washington - ChampBailey24 - Kenechi Udeze DE, USC 6 Detroit - Rich Karlis - Sean Taylor S, Miami 7 Cleveland - Bosko - Kellen Winslow Jr. TE, Miami 8 Atlanta - o robbie - Roy Williams WR, Texas 9 Cincinnati - CB-Champ24 ( from Jacksonville) DeAngelo Hall CB, Virginia Tech 10 Houston - Bosko - Mike Williams WR, USC 11 Pittsburgh - BombsOverBaghdad - Phillip Rivers QB, North Carolina St. 12 N.Y. Jets - SoCalBronco - Chris Gamble CB, Ohio St. 13 Denver - Finger Roll (from Buffalo) - Tommy Harris DT, Oklahoma 14 Chicago - DivineLegion - Vince Wilfork DT, Miami 15 Tampa Bay - Play2Win - Reggie Williams WR, Washington 16 San Francisco - SoCalBronco - Randy Starks DT, Maryland 17 Jacksonville - eddie mac (from Cincinnati) - Will Smith DE, Ohio State 18 New Orleans - watermock - Shawn Andrews OT, Arkansas 19 Minnesota - DenFan38 - D.J. Williams LB, Miami 20 Miami - BritBronco Maniac - Lee Evans WR, Wisconsin 21 New England - BroncoInferno - Stephen Jackson RB, Oregon State 22 Indianapolis - bpc (from Dallas) - Jonathan Vilma LB. Miami U. 23 Seattle - BombsOverBaghdad - Marquise Hill DT, LSU 24 Buffalo - Old Dude (from Denver) - Ben Troupe TE, Florida 25 Green Bay - Or@ngeM@n12 - JP Losman QB, Tulane 26 Tennessee - Finger Roll (from St. Louis) - Dunta Robinson CB, South Carolina 27 Tennessee - Finger Roll - Rashaun Woods WR, Oklahoma State 28 Philadelphia - Rich Karlis - Derrick Strait CB, Oklahoma 29 Dallas - bpc (from Indianapolis) - Karlos Dansby LB, Auburn 30 Kansas City - broncolife - Michael Clayton WR, LSU 31 San Francisco - SoCalBronco (From Carolina) - Michael Jenkins WR, Ohio St 32 New England - BroncoInferno - Vernon Carey G/T, Miami 2ND ROUND Houston (from Oakland -- Exercised in Supplemental Draft) 33 Arizona - CB-Champ24 - Kevin Jones RB, Virginia Tech 34 N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 - Will Poole CB, USC 35 San Diego - watermock - Antawn Odom DE, Alabama 36 Detroit - Rich Karlis - Chris Perry RB, Michigan 37 Cleveland - Bosko - Sean Jones FS, Georgia 38 Atlanta - o robbie - 39 Jacksonville - eddie mac 40 Houston - Bosko 41 Denver (from Washington ) - Finger Roll 42 St. Louis (from Tennessee) - broncolife 43 Buffalo - Old Dude 44 Pittsburgh - BombsOverBaghdad 45 Oakland (from Tampa Bay ) - EMPTY 46 Carolina (fromSan Francisco) - DivineLegion 47 Chicago - DivineLegion 48 New Orleans - watermock 49 Jacksonville (from Cincinnati) - eddie mac 50 Minnesota - DenFan38 51 Baltimore - CB-Champ24 52 Dallas - bpc 53 Seattle - BombsOverBaghdad 54 Buffalo (from Denver) - Old Dude 55 Green Bay - Or@ngeM@n12 56 Cincinnati (from Miami through New England) - CB-Champ24 57 St.Louis (from Tennessee) - broncolife 58 Philadelphia - Rich Karlis 59 Indianapolis - bpc 60 New Orleans (from St. Louis ) - watermock 61 Kansas City - royr17 62 Carolina - DivineLegion 63 New England - BroncoInferno Atlanta - o robbie is now on the clock... Last edited by CB-Champ24; 04-21-2004 at 06:55 PM..

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04-19-2004, 05:07 PM	#101
TheManeMan Ring of Famer DPOY Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 5,659	The Arizona Cardinals select Kevin Jones RB, Virginia Tech

04-19-2004, 05:09 PM	#103
BroncoInferno Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 12,998	Sorry CB.......changed my pick to Vernon Carey, G/T, Miami...........is that cool?

04-19-2004, 05:45 PM	#105
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Dammit. I would of taken Jones regardless of having LT2. Then San Diego could of shipped Brees off and possibly LT2 because he's going to have a monster contract coming up. Now I gotta dig around.

04-19-2004, 05:48 PM	#106
broncolife Master masturbator! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 3,395	I think we should cut the time limit now, since its the second round and the draft is approaching. How about 12 hours instead of 24?

04-19-2004, 05:51 PM	#107
TheManeMan Ring of Famer DPOY Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 5,659	will do broncolife...12 hours from the time of the last selection to make your pick....If 12 hours go by then, we will vote on a consensus for your team

04-20-2004, 02:53 PM	#108
royr17 Fear the Inferno Donkey Killer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Greenville, KY Posts: 279	How many rounds are we doing, we cant do 7 it has to be 3 or 4 cause theres not enough time for 7 rounds since the NFL Draft is this saturday and sunday.

04-20-2004, 02:55 PM	#109
TheManeMan Ring of Famer DPOY Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 5,659	Who would the Giants pick right now...times up for Or@ngeM@n12

04-20-2004, 03:36 PM	#112
eddie mac Ireland's No1 Bronco Eddie Mac 87 gone but never forgott Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: IRELAND Posts: 15,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	Champ, 12 hrs is still too much IMO, with only approx 90 hrs left till the draft. Could we try 6 hrs max per pick.

04-20-2004, 03:40 PM	#113
Old Dude Host Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: As if I'd tell you crazies! Posts: 14,146	They could also use a good MLB. Vilma's gone. Daryl Smith, possibly.

04-20-2004, 04:14 PM	#114
TheManeMan Ring of Famer DPOY Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 5,659	I'd say Will Poole would be a good choice...as for 12 hours, lets make it 6, thats cool with me...i just might not be around all the time to update...but, I'll try

04-20-2004, 05:20 PM	#115
royr17 Fear the Inferno Donkey Killer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Greenville, KY Posts: 279	How about this all picks have to be made in one day for round 2, all picks tomorrow for round 3, all picks for round 4 and 5 on thursday, and the round 6 and 7 on friday. That is the only way its going to get done. If they dont pick than we just proxy there pick.

04-20-2004, 09:12 PM	#116
TheManeMan Ring of Famer DPOY Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 5,659	Its not going to work for this draft...too many people are busy and wont be able to come on the Mane everyday until Saturday to make draft picks...as for the NY Giants they select Will Poole CB, USC

04-20-2004, 09:13 PM	#117
TheManeMan Ring of Famer DPOY Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 5,659	1 San Diego - watermock - Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami, OH 2 Oakland - EMPTY - Eli Manning QB, Ole Miss 3 Arizona - CB-Champ24 - Larry Fitzgerald WR, Pittsburgh 4 N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 - Robert Gallery OT, Iowa 5 Washington - ChampBailey24 - Kenechi Udeze DE, USC 6 Detroit - Rich Karlis - Sean Taylor S, Miami 7 Cleveland - Bosko - Kellen Winslow Jr. TE, Miami 8 Atlanta - o robbey - Roy Williams WR, Texas 9 Cincinnati - CB-Champ24 ( from Jacksonville) DeAngelo Hall CB, Virginia Tech 10 Houston - Bosko - Mike Williams WR, USC 11 Pittsburgh - BombsOverBaghdad - Phillip Rivers QB, North Carolina St. 12 N.Y. Jets - SoCalBronco - Chris Gamble CB, Ohio St. 13 Denver - Finger Roll (from Buffalo) - Tommy Harris DT, Oklahoma 14 Chicago - DivineLegion - Vince Wilfork DT, Miami 15 Tampa Bay - Play2Win - Reggie Williams WR, Washington 16 San Francisco - SoCalBronco - Randy Starks DT, Maryland 17 Jacksonville - eddie mac (from Cincinnati) - Will Smith DE, Ohio State 18 New Orleans - watermock - Shawn Andrews OT, Arkansas 19 Minnesota - DenFan38 - D.J. Williams LB, Miami 20 Miami - BritBronco Maniac - Lee Evans WR, Wisconsin 21 New England - BroncoInferno - Stephen Jackson RB, Oregon State 22 Indianapolis - bpc (from Dallas) - Jonathan Vilma LB. Miami U. 23 Seattle - BombsOverBaghdad - Marquise Hill DT, LSU 24 Buffalo - Old Dude (from Denver) - Ben Troupe TE, Florida 25 Green Bay - Or@ngeM@n12 - JP Losman QB, Tulane 26 Tennessee - Finger Roll (from St. Louis) - Dunta Robinson CB, South Carolina 27 Tennessee - Finger Roll - Rashaun Woods WR, Oklahoma State 28 Philadelphia - Rich Karlis - Derrick Strait CB, Oklahoma 29 Dallas - bpc (from Indianapolis) - Karlos Dansby LB, Auburn 30 Kansas City - broncolife - Michael Clayton WR, LSU 31 San Francisco - SoCalBronco (From Carolina) - Michael Jenkins WR, Ohio St 32 New England - BroncoInferno - Vernon Carey G/T, Miami 2ND ROUND Houston (from Oakland -- Exercised in Supplemental Draft) 33 Arizona - CB-Champ24 - Kevin Jones RB, Virginia Tech 34 N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 - Will Poole CB, USC 35 San Diego - watermock 36 Detroit - Rich Karlis 37 Cleveland - Bosko 38 Atlanta - o robbey 39 Jacksonville - eddie mac 40 Houston - Bosko 41 Denver (from Washington ) - Finger Roll 42 St. Louis (from Tennessee) - broncolife 43 Buffalo - Old Dude 44 Pittsburgh - BombsOverBaghdad 45 Oakland (from Tampa Bay ) - EMPTY 46 Carolina (fromSan Francisco) - DivineLegion 47 Chicago - DivineLegion 48 New Orleans - watermock 49 Jacksonville (from Cincinnati) - eddie mac 50 Minnesota - DenFan38 51 Baltimore - CB-Champ24 52 Dallas - bpc 53 Seattle - BombsOverBaghdad 54 Buffalo (from Denver) - Old Dude 55 Green Bay - Or@ngeM@n12 56 Cincinnati (from Miami through New England) - CB-Champ24 57 St.Louis (from Tennessee) - broncolife 58 Philadelphia - Rich Karlis 59 Indianapolis - bpc 60 New Orleans (from St. Louis ) - watermock 61 Kansas City - royr17 62 Carolina - DivineLegion 63 New England - BroncoInferno San Diego - watermock is now on the clock

04-20-2004, 11:44 PM	#119
TheManeMan Ring of Famer DPOY Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 5,659	1 San Diego - watermock - Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami, OH 2 Oakland - EMPTY - Eli Manning QB, Ole Miss 3 Arizona - CB-Champ24 - Larry Fitzgerald WR, Pittsburgh 4 N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 - Robert Gallery OT, Iowa 5 Washington - ChampBailey24 - Kenechi Udeze DE, USC 6 Detroit - Rich Karlis - Sean Taylor S, Miami 7 Cleveland - Bosko - Kellen Winslow Jr. TE, Miami 8 Atlanta - o robbey - Roy Williams WR, Texas 9 Cincinnati - CB-Champ24 ( from Jacksonville) DeAngelo Hall CB, Virginia Tech 10 Houston - Bosko - Mike Williams WR, USC 11 Pittsburgh - BombsOverBaghdad - Phillip Rivers QB, North Carolina St. 12 N.Y. Jets - SoCalBronco - Chris Gamble CB, Ohio St. 13 Denver - Finger Roll (from Buffalo) - Tommy Harris DT, Oklahoma 14 Chicago - DivineLegion - Vince Wilfork DT, Miami 15 Tampa Bay - Play2Win - Reggie Williams WR, Washington 16 San Francisco - SoCalBronco - Randy Starks DT, Maryland 17 Jacksonville - eddie mac (from Cincinnati) - Will Smith DE, Ohio State 18 New Orleans - watermock - Shawn Andrews OT, Arkansas 19 Minnesota - DenFan38 - D.J. Williams LB, Miami 20 Miami - BritBronco Maniac - Lee Evans WR, Wisconsin 21 New England - BroncoInferno - Stephen Jackson RB, Oregon State 22 Indianapolis - bpc (from Dallas) - Jonathan Vilma LB. Miami U. 23 Seattle - BombsOverBaghdad - Marquise Hill DT, LSU 24 Buffalo - Old Dude (from Denver) - Ben Troupe TE, Florida 25 Green Bay - Or@ngeM@n12 - JP Losman QB, Tulane 26 Tennessee - Finger Roll (from St. Louis) - Dunta Robinson CB, South Carolina 27 Tennessee - Finger Roll - Rashaun Woods WR, Oklahoma State 28 Philadelphia - Rich Karlis - Derrick Strait CB, Oklahoma 29 Dallas - bpc (from Indianapolis) - Karlos Dansby LB, Auburn 30 Kansas City - broncolife - Michael Clayton WR, LSU 31 San Francisco - SoCalBronco (From Carolina) - Michael Jenkins WR, Ohio St 32 New England - BroncoInferno - Vernon Carey G/T, Miami 2ND ROUND Houston (from Oakland -- Exercised in Supplemental Draft) 33 Arizona - CB-Champ24 - Kevin Jones RB, Virginia Tech 34 N.Y. Giants - Or@ngeM@n12 - Will Poole CB, USC 35 San Diego - watermock - Antawn Odom DE, Alabama 36 Detroit - Rich Karlis 37 Cleveland - Bosko 38 Atlanta - o robbey 39 Jacksonville - eddie mac 40 Houston - Bosko 41 Denver (from Washington ) - Finger Roll 42 St. Louis (from Tennessee) - broncolife 43 Buffalo - Old Dude 44 Pittsburgh - BombsOverBaghdad 45 Oakland (from Tampa Bay ) - EMPTY 46 Carolina (fromSan Francisco) - DivineLegion 47 Chicago - DivineLegion 48 New Orleans - watermock 49 Jacksonville (from Cincinnati) - eddie mac 50 Minnesota - DenFan38 51 Baltimore - CB-Champ24 52 Dallas - bpc 53 Seattle - BombsOverBaghdad 54 Buffalo (from Denver) - Old Dude 55 Green Bay - Or@ngeM@n12 56 Cincinnati (from Miami through New England) - CB-Champ24 57 St.Louis (from Tennessee) - broncolife 58 Philadelphia - Rich Karlis 59 Indianapolis - bpc 60 New Orleans (from St. Louis ) - watermock 61 Kansas City - royr17 62 Carolina - DivineLegion 63 New England - BroncoInferno Detroit - Rich Karlis is now on the clock

04-21-2004, 01:14 PM	#120
Arkie Ring of Famer Gggggrrrrrr rrrraaaahhh Arrrrhhhn. Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 9,080 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quinton Carter	Time's up! It's safe to assume that Detroit won't take Sean Jones since they took Sean Taylor in the first. Cleveland will jump on Sean Jones with the next pick. Sean Jones FS Georgia Height: 6-1 Weight: 212 OVERVIEW Hard-hitting tackler with excellent leaping ability … Standout performer on special teams who proved to be invaluable in the Bulldogs secondary, playing free safety, strong safety and Rover during his career … An outstanding kick blocker, Jones served as defensive co-captain during his junior campaign … Played in 37 games, starting 24 times … Finished with 250 tackles (140 solos), an 8-yard sack, 10 stops for losses of 35 yards, four quarterback pressures, three fumble recoveries for 105 yards in returns, seven interceptions for 100 yards in returns, four blocked kicks, a pair of kickoff returns for 55 yards (27.5 avg.) and 10 punt returns for 160 yards (16.0 avg.) … His 10 interceptions rank 10th on the school's career-record list … His four blocked kicks topped the old school career record of three by Boss Bailey (1998-99, 2001-02), Kendrell Bell (1999-2000) and Corrie Collier (2000-01). ANALYSIS *Positives:* Has a well-defined body with solid overall muscle development, long arms and thick thighs and calves … Shows fluid change of direction agility and above average body control … Relentless tackler and big hitter who shows toughness and a willingness to compete for the ball … Has the foot speed and control needed to break coming out of his backpedal … Shows no wasted steps transitioning out of his breaks … Has an explosive short burst, staying low in his pads to make plays in front of him … Has the acceleration needed to mirror receivers in the deep zone … Shows explosion out of his turns … Uses his hands effectively to shock receivers in press coverage … Makes sharp turns to trail receivers down the sidelines … Has superb leaping ability, utilizing it greatly as a kick blocker … Times his leaps and extends his arms to snatch the ball at its high point … Has a good feel for turning and locating the ball … Gets in the mix and is willing to support vs. the run … Big hitter who will face up and wrap with strength … Makes every effort to strip the ball from his opponent and has the quick instincts to recover and advance the ball. Negatives: Good wrap-up tackler, but sometimes dips with his shoulder and makes grab tackles, resulting in missed hits … Has above average hands, but needs to use them better to jolt blockers when trying to disengage near the line of scrimmage … Gets fooled some by play-action and when this happens, he needs to regain his depth quicker … Sometimes tries to freelance, which results in him neglecting his responsibilities in the zone.

04-21-2004, 01:27 PM	#121
o_robbie Pro Bowler Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Minot North Dakota Posts: 490	I vote Marcus Tubbs DT for Detroit.

04-21-2004, 01:44 PM	#122
Rich Karlis liquored up kicker Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NYC/NNJ Posts: 853	The Detroit Lions select: Chris Perry, RB, Michigan

04-22-2004, 06:27 AM	#124
o_robbie Pro Bowler Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Minot North Dakota Posts: 490	The Atlanta Falcons have a difficult time deciding between Smiley OG from Alabama, Dockett DT from FSU, and DE Jason Babin. Dan Reeves phoned in and was convinced the Falcons should draft the best available RB. When its all said and done Darnell Dockett DT FSU is the pick.

04-22-2004, 10:22 AM	#125
TheManeMan Ring of Famer DPOY Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 5,659	what did Dan Reeves have to do with the team? Didnt Jim Mora Jr "tell him to **** off, this isnt your team anymore?"