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Old 07-18-2014, 02:49 PM   #101
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No it doesn't. It's mobile air defense system and operational control is at the unit level. It is very possible to learn to operate the system in less then two week times.
Do you type using a translator. If so which one because it's pretty good, not perfect but pretty good.
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Old 07-18-2014, 03:11 PM   #102
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Who's the one the itchy trigger finger now. Where in that statement did you read war. Closing one strait is war. But Russian thugs shoot down airplane they get a free pass. Check yourself before you wreck yourself.
I have yet to see one of your posts make any sense. You're living in your own little bubble.
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Old 07-18-2014, 03:15 PM   #103
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Also the treaty that is in effect on the straights gives Turkey the right to close the straight to military ships. It only says it has to be open for civilian ships. So tell me how that would be an act of war? Turkey has always said the passage of military ships is a favor, not something they have to do. So Rho please tell me how this is not a good move??
Were there Turks on the plane? Now it's Turkey's responsibility to punish Russia? Or they should do it because we ask them to? Why would we ask them that? You missed my point. Why is this our fight?
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Nukes in Cuba = Germany invades Poland - got it.
Not to mention, Germany declared war on us first.
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Old 07-18-2014, 03:29 PM   #105
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Can you imagine if McCain was president .
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The sad thing is that there were a lot of AIDS researchers on the flight that passed away. Big hit to the scientific community in that regard.
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Can you imagine if McCain was president .
The strange thing is that if Africans start chopping each other into bits by the thousands, nobody in our government brings it up. Maybe we've got a Cold War hangover when it comes to Russia? This Russian atrocity sounds like something tailor-made for the UN to deal with.
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Old 07-18-2014, 03:37 PM   #108
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Old 07-18-2014, 04:55 PM   #109
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Dude you would make a great Obama.
Lulz I can't stand liberals or the Christian "right".
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Old 07-18-2014, 05:03 PM   #110
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Were there Turks on the plane? Now it's Turkey's responsibility to punish Russia? Or they should do it because we ask them to? Why would we ask them that? You missed my point. Why is this our fight?
Because what Russia is doing is a threat to Europe which NATO exists to protect. Wow can't believe you didn't figure that out yourself.
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Lulz I can't stand liberals or the Christian "right".
Same here. They want government to control people.
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It's not war to close the straight to military ships. That is in the treaty? How would Russia justify war when it's in the treaty Turkey has to allow all NON-military civilian vessels to pass with no inspection. But military ships can be banned.
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Because what Russia is doing is a threat to Europe which NATO exists to protect. Wow can't believe you didn't figure that out yourself.
Question; How do you know it was Russia that shot the plane down?
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Question; How do you know it was Russia that shot the plane down?
I would argue they have already shown enough aggressive behavior either way to close the straight to their warships.
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Question; How do you know it was Russia that shot the plane down?
Let me guess you served on the OJ jury?
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The Bosphorus str8 is only half of a mile wide. Russia would not go to war over it because quite frankly they would lose bad to Turkey in that region. He couldn't even send a warship near it because of Turkey's land based defenses.

It would be a great move for Obama to get Turkey to go along with it but to do it you probably have to let them wipe out the Kurds in Iraq. Or at least put them in big time check.

But anyone who thinks Russia has a right to way over the Bosphoros is just buying Putins BS. It is firmly Turkish waters and land. It's too narrow to force a country to let warships go through. Turkey does it out of courtesy.
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I would argue they have already shown enough aggressive behavior either way to close the straight to their warships.
You don't know, almost no one knows. Yet!
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Let me guess you served on the OJ jury?
I was the judge. Honorable Baja.
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Since this parallels the Georgia situation in some ways I was currious how Bush responed back in 08. The 2 concrete things he did was move war ships into the black sea and air lifted Georgian combat troops from Afganastan back home. It also sent a clear message that we were willing to offer material support if nothing else. Russia halted their advances.

What concrete things has Obama do so far besides levy sanctions?
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Since this parallels the Georgia situation in some ways I was currious how Bush responed back in 08. The 2 concrete things he did was move war ships into the black sea and air lifted Georgian combat troops from Afganastan back home. It also sent a clear message that we were willing to offer material support if nothing else. Russia halted their advances.

What concrete things has Obama do so far besides levy sanctions?
HAHAHA.. yeah Bush sure intimidated him.

DO you realize those Russian troops are still in Georgia?

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Today, I visited the Line of Occupation near the Georgian village of Odzisi. Put simply, the Line of Occupation is where free and democratic Georgia meets Russian-occupied and oppressed Georgia. It’s quite a surreal experience. A sandbag bunker flying the Georgian flag manned with Georgian police stands only a couple hundred yards from a similar Russian bunker. It is hard for me to believe that peaceful and cosmopolitan Tbilisiis only 30 miles behind me.
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Old 07-19-2014, 06:19 AM   #122
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HAHAHA.. yeah Bush sure intimidated him.

DO you realize those Russian troops are still in Georgia?



http://dailysignal.com/2012/05/31/ge...ave-forgotten/
I do which is why I said halted their advance. Let me re ask the question since you seamed to miss it. What has Obama done so far to fix the situation besides go full turtle?
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Sorry but in Georgia those areas of S. Ossetia had been under defacto Russian control for 15 yrs before the 2008 violence erupted. Much different then Crimea and the Ukraine.
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HAHAHA.. yeah Bush sure intimidated him.

DO you realize those Russian troops are still in Georgia?



http://dailysignal.com/2012/05/31/ge...ave-forgotten/
Don't waste your time,Cutt & co. have a hard on for GWB. Russia invaded Georgia and GWB Didn't do ****.

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He didn't have to invade Peace they had troops in the country years before.
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