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View Poll Results: Which would you have preferred?
To lose to the Pats by one point in the AFCCG and avoid the embarrassing performance in the SB 7 7.53%
To play the game and live with the embarrassing loss? 86 92.47%
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Old 07-17-2014, 12:01 PM   #101
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that's not what your poll is asking... you are basically asking how would you like the Broncos to end their season, in an exciting one point playoff loss to the Pats or in a humiliating SB loss. Either one sucks because the ultimate goal is not accomplished.

Now, what is the ultimate goal again?
To reach for the ring
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You lose playoff experience and especially SB experience so if you want to go back they'll have done the whole dog and pony show. There is no down to going to the SB. There is a down to not winning in the playoffs, namely you are playoff loser and you lose the chance to have a conference championship trophy. Your logic is stupid.
Your logic is not too shabby logic. Congrats. You are justifying Fox's comments. I'm saying that the SB was a disaster and a complete cluster. It was very much like the SB against the Skins where the Broncos were favored to win and then got completely humiliated.

Again, if the Broncos had lost the SB in a close game, I'd be ok with that, I wouldn't be happy and I'd still consider the season incomplete but the Broncos would have at least been competitive in the SB. The poll is asking how do you want the Broncos to end their season, in a competitive playoff loss or in a cluster **** humiliating defeat.

People here are saying "well, you gotta be there to win it" but that's not the question. The season ends in a loss, period. How do you want that loss to happen?
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To reach for the ring


wrong again, it's to win the ring.
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The season ends in a loss, period. How do you want that loss to happen?
In the Super Bowl, every single time.
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The season ends in a loss, period. How do you want that loss to happen?
You have the option of losing to the eventual champions in the big game itself or losing to somebody else on a lesser stage and you choose the latter?

You'd rather end the season losing to number four or five than losing to number one in the title game? You'd rather finish the season anywhere but second place if you can't be number one?

Your brain is mush, dude.
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You have the option of losing to the eventual champions in the big game itself or losing to somebody else on a lesser stage and you choose the latter?

You'd rather end the season losing to number four or five than losing to number one in the title game? You'd rather finish the season anywhere but second place if you can't be number one?

Your brain is mush, dude.
The funny part to me is, he keeps using the "not too shabby" thing when really...that is what result he wants. A "hey, at least we didn't..." excuse.

It's pathetic, and embarrassing that someone can look at it this way. The 90's Bills should be ashamed of themselves!
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You have the option of losing to the eventual champions in the big game itself or losing to somebody else on a lesser stage and you choose the latter?

You'd rather end the season losing to number four or five than losing to number one in the title game? You'd rather finish the season anywhere but second place if you can't be number one?

Your brain is mush, dude.
The question is do you want to end the season in a competitive one point loss in the AFCCG or in a blowout SB loss. That's the question. It's very specific. It's not asking "do you want to lose in the AFCCG or in the SB?" it's stating some very specific parameters on how do you want to lose the final game of the season. Either in a humiliating blowout SB loss or in a one point AFCCG.

My first choice would be to win the SB, my second choice would be for the Broncos to play a competitve game in the SB but lose. But if neither of those choices are options (they aren't) then I'd pick their final loss to be a competitive loss, rather than a blowout.
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The funny part to me is, he keeps using the "not too shabby" thing when really...that is what result he wants. A "hey, at least we didn't..." excuse.

It's pathetic, and embarrassing that someone can look at it this way. The 90's Bills should be ashamed of themselves!
wtf are you talking about? You are the one using Fox's logic, not me. I'm saying the SB blow out loss is unacceptable and that if the Broncos don't win the SB than the season was not a success. You are the one saying "hey, the Broncos showed up, not too shabby" which is exactly the same logic Fox used at the end of the season.
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Baja and his damn polls.
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Tombstone using circular logic to fail at making any sort of a point. Congrats!
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AFCCG loss
Loser mentality.
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Tombstone using circular logic to fail at making any sort of a point. Congrats!
Yeah, it's pointless. Just an absolute loser.
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For somebody who says that nothing matters if you don't win it all, he sure seems to have some very specific requirements for how the team is supposed to lose.
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wtf are you talking about? You are the one using Fox's logic, not me. I'm saying the SB blow out loss is unacceptable and that if the Broncos don't win the SB than the season was not a success. You are the one saying "hey, the Broncos showed up, not too shabby" which is exactly the same logic Fox used at the end of the season.
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SoCal's wet dream is to have a three man team of Cutler, Marshall and DJ Williams, coached by Mike Shanahan, that goes 8-8 every year and just barely misses the playoffs.

Big time football, people.
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SoCal's wet dream is to have a three man team of Cutler, Marshall and DJ Williams, coached by Mike Shanahan, that goes 8-8 every year and just barely misses the playoffs.

Big time football, people.
With a new owner.
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Loser mentality.
No, it's a go with the lesser aggravation mentality.

The choice provided isn't to win and advance and see what happens. It's lose by 1 in the AFCCG or get absolutely destroyed in the SB.

So there isn't a "you can't win the SB if you don't get there" aspect to this because the hypothetical compels from the very outset that you CANNOT win and in fact will get raped.

To me at least, I would be less aggravated by losing a close AFCCG than getting destroyed on the world stage. JMO.
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SoCal's wet dream is to have a three man team of Cutler, Marshall and DJ Williams, coached by Mike Shanahan, that goes 8-8 every year and just barely misses the playoffs.

Big time football, people.
For a three man, one coach team to win 8 games against 53 man and 12-15 coach rosters would seem to validate why I think so highly of those four guys.


Try again.
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For a three man, one coach team to win 8 games against 53 man and 12-15 coach rosters would seem to validate why I think so highly of those four guys.


Try again.
So you are saying you'd be happy with that scenario every season.
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So you are saying you'd be happy with that scenario every season.
No...I wasn't happy with 8-8 but that wasn't due to coaching. 8-8 was an improvement on the investment so I'm not sure why ownership was upset. You spend 22nd or so and get 16th, you should be happy.
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No...I wasn't happy with 8-8 but that wasn't due to coaching. 8-8 was an improvement on the investment so I'm not sure why ownership was upset. You spend 22nd or so and get 16th, you should be happy.
So what's the excuse for Shanny in Washington where he had an unlimited supply of money?
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So I guess ending one's life is preferable, as some kind of pesonal disaster could happen next week, right?
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No...I wasn't happy with 8-8 but that wasn't due to coaching. 8-8 was an improvement on the investment so I'm not sure why ownership was upset. You spend 22nd or so and get 16th, you should be happy.

What does Snyder spend? How'd that work out even with the great Shanahan?
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