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Old 07-04-2014, 09:02 PM   #101
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I think you are right it's a great skill set at receiver and none of them the same type.

Demarious= Big and fast with huge catch radius, very tough outside, inside and after the catch.

Welker- tiny little fireplug who runs shifty quick routes and is very good with hot reads and checkdowns.

Sanders- Sort of a tweener. Shifty and fast enough for the slot, but not so small he can't play outside. Good after the catch with 4.4 speed deep.

Julious Thomas- Big fast TE who is like DT but at TE.

It's a nice skill set and all of them will have routes and plays especially for them.

I could see us having 4 1000 yrd pass catchers. Has any team ever done that?
I don't believe any team has ever had 4 guys with 1000 yards receiving. That's quite a hefty accomplishment. I don't think any teams have ever had 3 guys get over 1000 receiving yards. You have to figure backs catching the ball, subs, etc. We did have 4 guys have over 10 receiving TD's last year, that never happened before.
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Old 07-04-2014, 09:06 PM   #102
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With the vastly improved D we seem to have Manning will get the ball a lot more as our D gets off the field sooner. If he can play this year like he did last year he could possibly pass for 6000 yards.
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I don't believe any team has ever had 4 guys with 1000 yards receiving. That's quite a hefty accomplishment. I don't think any teams have ever had 3 guys get over 1000 receiving yards. You have to figure backs catching the ball, subs, etc. We did have 4 guys have over 10 receiving TD's last year, that never happened before.
Colts had Harrison, Wayne and Stokley go over 1000 in 1 season.
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Old 07-04-2014, 09:43 PM   #104
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With the vastly improved D we seem to have Manning will get the ball a lot more as our D gets off the field sooner. If he can play this year like he did last year he could possibly pass for 6000 yards.
If the defense is as good as it looks on paper, I'd anticipate a lot of shortened games for Peyton and the starting offense leading to a lower overall offensive output. If the team is already up a few TD by the middle or end of the 3rd, there is no point to keep our playmakers on the field. It is kind of like TD in 98. Had he finished several of those games he had 100+ yards by the half or 3rd quarter and the team was already coasting he would have put up the greatest ever statistical season by a RB. If the D is lights out, that means short fields for Peyton and the offense and more scoring opportunities. If games are getting put away earlier Peyton and Co numbers will go down from this past season.
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Old 07-05-2014, 09:16 AM   #106
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I don't believe any team has ever had 4 guys with 1000 yards receiving. That's quite a hefty accomplishment. I don't think any teams have ever had 3 guys get over 1000 receiving yards. You have to figure backs catching the ball, subs, etc. We did have 4 guys have over 10 receiving TD's last year, that never happened before.
A few teams have had 3. Off of the top of my head I am thinking Washington Redskins, AZ Cardinals, Colts, Chargers. Probably a couple more in there too.
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Old 07-05-2014, 10:31 AM   #107
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We got the difficult 1st down because of Howard Griffith and TD. Anyone else notice how once Howard had to retire the ability to pick up short yardage 1st downs went into the crapper.

That said TD was a special back with unique vision and excellent quickness and the speed to take it to the house. Peterson is now where near the quality back TD was in his prime. I know TD had a ton of touches in 1998 but he also sat out a lot of 4th quarters.

Teams would rather try to get the bigger chunks of yardage passing than grind it out on the ground but if a special back came along they would find a way to ride him just like Shanny rode TD.
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Old 07-05-2014, 10:49 AM   #108
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If the defense is as good as it looks on paper, I'd anticipate a lot of shortened games for Peyton and the starting offense leading to a lower overall offensive output. If the team is already up a few TD by the middle or end of the 3rd, there is no point to keep our playmakers on the field. It is kind of like TD in 98. Had he finished several of those games he had 100+ yards by the half or 3rd quarter and the team was already coasting he would have put up the greatest ever statistical season by a RB. If the D is lights out, that means short fields for Peyton and the offense and more scoring opportunities. If games are getting put away earlier Peyton and Co numbers will go down from this past season.
I see your point but keep in mind Manning's mind set to score 7 points every time he has the ball. It's not in him to coast. If we have that good running game that I believe we will have the drives will be more balanced and longer in duration. If it plays out that way we could see better passing numbers even though we are more a balanced offense because we are on the field longer and with our D likely more often as well.
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If the defense is as good as it looks on paper, I'd anticipate a lot of shortened games for Peyton and the starting offense leading to a lower overall offensive output. If the team is already up a few TD by the middle or end of the 3rd, there is no point to keep our playmakers on the field. It is kind of like TD in 98. Had he finished several of those games he had 100+ yards by the half or 3rd quarter and the team was already coasting he would have put up the greatest ever statistical season by a RB. If the D is lights out, that means short fields for Peyton and the offense and more scoring opportunities. If games are getting put away earlier Peyton and Co numbers will go down from this past season.
Well you would have to throw OJ into that conversation as well, since he went over 2000 yards in only 14 games.
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One other thing; I bet Denver is top 5 in + turnovers this season. We were in the bottom ⅓ last year if I remember correctly.
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Considering welker and JT missed time last yr I think it's possible if all 4 play all 16 games for it to happen. 4 1000 yrd receivers!.
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Old 07-05-2014, 12:10 PM   #112
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If the defense is as good as it looks on paper, I'd anticipate a lot of shortened games for Peyton and the starting offense leading to a lower overall offensive output. If the team is already up a few TD by the middle or end of the 3rd, there is no point to keep our playmakers on the field. It is kind of like TD in 98. Had he finished several of those games he had 100+ yards by the half or 3rd quarter and the team was already coasting he would have put up the greatest ever statistical season by a RB. If the D is lights out, that means short fields for Peyton and the offense and more scoring opportunities. If games are getting put away earlier Peyton and Co numbers will go down from this past season.
when is an NFL season ever so easy the starters get tons of time off? I doubt it. Also I don't remember TD taking it easy those yrs lol. I remember 30 carries every game.
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when is an NFL season ever so easy the starters get tons of time off? I doubt it. Also I don't remember TD taking it easy those yrs lol. I remember 30 carries every game.
TD did sit out a few 4th quarters toward the end of the 98 season.
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Elway takes the running game seriously, all you have to do is look at the roster and see that Elway has two young RBs drafted in the first three rounds, not to mention Bibbs and Anderson. I'm in a wait-and-see mode as far as the RB situation. I think Ball will step up to the plate and be a solid RB and as for Hillman, this is his make or brake year.
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TD did sit out a few 4th quarters toward the end of the 98 season.
Not just towards the end, he sat out the equivalent of 2 full games that year.
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Elway takes the running game seriously, all you have to do is look at the roster and see that Elway has two young RBs drafted in the first three rounds, not to mention Bibbs and Anderson. I'm in a wait-and-see mode as far as the RB situation. I think Ball will step up to the plate and be a solid RB and as for Hillman, this is his make or brake year.

I agree 100% and to those that said we should have drafted Lacy he would have had the same learning curve as Ball. It takes a year to learn to play Manning ball for the running back position.
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Not just towards the end, he sat out the equivalent of 2 full games that year.

He sat out 8 full quarters and was healthy and available for them all? That I don't remember.
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I think on paper it doesn't seem like Elway and Co invested that much into getting RB's after Ball. However, with having Manning at the helm and the previous history of finding talent in the lower rounds and UDFA I trust that Elway knows what he's doing.
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To win a superbowl....

Elway better bring in a vet after cuts or do something, right now if this team rolls with Ball, CJ, and Ronnie Bustillman then this team and mannings neck are in big big trouble

Ball can learn alot, but unfortunately he has alot to learn about crunch time and big 3rd downs. His durability is unproven in the NFL. Shame on the front office thinking "high miles ball" is a proven rock toter in the NFL, this isn't the Big 10....

CJ Anderson has no clue what to do on passing downs and blitz pickup...


Ronnie Bustillman, wow, what a soft, weak runner, wouldn't surprise me if he gets cut. Gase is on record as a Non Fan....

You better get more legs Elway.....Not this thread in Mid October.

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He sat out 8 full quarters and was healthy and available for them all? That I don't remember.
in several games, the Broncos were ahead by 3-4 scores going into the 4th.. it made so sense to play him.
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in several games, the Broncos were ahead by 3-4 scores going into the 4th.. it made so sense to play him.
He sat out the whole 2nd half of the Philly game. Saw that on America's team
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I think on paper it doesn't seem like Elway and Co invested that much into getting RB's after Ball. However, with having Manning at the helm and the previous history of finding talent in the lower rounds and UDFA I trust that Elway knows what he's doing.
I think that speaks volumes to what Elway thinks of Ball (he's made quotes to that effect) and the devalued runningback market in general.

I too, trust Elways opinion on the subject.
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in several games, the Broncos were ahead by 3-4 scores going into the 4th.. it made so sense to play him.
i know that, i am questioning that he sat for 8 quarters. Two full games
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i know that, i am questioning that he sat for 8 quarters. Two full games

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One year after the sporting press celebrated Barry Sanders rushing for 2,053 yards in í97, there was speculation that Terrell Davis could repeat that feat in 1998. Terrell Davis and his Broncos ran out to a 13-0 record and threatened the í72 Dolphins unbeaten streak but an upset by the Giants then the Dolphins relegated the AFC West champions to a 14-2 record. Davis ran for over 170 yards in the final game of the season to finish with 2,008 yards, 23 TDs and he was voted NFL Most Valuable Player in the process. His total was even more impressive than Eric Dickersonís, Barry Sanders or O.J. Simpsonís total for one reason: his 2,000 yard season came with his sitting out over 8 quarters in blowout wins. With his average per game divided out over a 14 game season his numbers project out to 2,294 yards and 26 TDs. Had that happened he would have broken Emmitt Smithís record of 25 TDs and Marshall Faulk never would have had the record in 2000. Keep in mind he attained all this while playing for a defending Super Bowl champion with a bullseye on their back for the entire season. Something the other 2,000 yard rushers didnít have to contend with.
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One year after the sporting press celebrated Barry Sanders rushing for 2,053 yards in í97, there was speculation that Terrell Davis could repeat that feat in 1998. Terrell Davis and his Broncos ran out to a 13-0 record and threatened the í72 Dolphins unbeaten streak but an upset by the Giants then the Dolphins relegated the AFC West champions to a 14-2 record. Davis ran for over 170 yards in the final game of the season to finish with 2,008 yards, 23 TDs and he was voted NFL Most Valuable Player in the process. His total was even more impressive than Eric Dickersonís, Barry Sanders or O.J. Simpsonís total for one reason: his 2,000 yard season came with his sitting out over 8 quarters in blowout wins. With his average per game divided out over a 14 game season his numbers project out to 2,294 yards and 26 TDs. Had that happened he would have broken Emmitt Smithís record of 25 TDs and Marshall Faulk never would have had the record in 2000. Keep in mind he attained all this while playing for a defending Super Bowl champion with a bullseye on their back for the entire season. Something the other 2,000 yard rushers didnít have to contend with.
Thank you. I only questioned it because that is so amazing that it approaches the unbelievable.
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