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Old 07-03-2014, 10:37 AM   #51
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The Law firm will probably be cut by the Bengals. He will look good in a Broncos uniform.
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Old 07-03-2014, 11:41 AM   #52
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Old 07-03-2014, 11:48 AM   #53
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With our line being improved I am not real worried about our running game. By the end of the season once everything slowed down and Ball could just play instead of thinking about the play and blitz pickup or which hole to hit he looked much better than Moreno.

So many love to dump on Hillman, but forget, even going into his 3rd season is still one of the younger guys in the league.

with Anderson or Bibbs or whoever winds up as the number 3 guy there is no way to know what they can or will bring to the table.

We haven't even gotten to training camp yet. it is way too soon to be this worried about the position.
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Old 07-03-2014, 11:56 AM   #54
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Shame on this front office!!! They should all be fired!! What are they thinking, those bunch of losers!!!!
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Old 07-03-2014, 12:13 PM   #55
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I like our RB's. I'm still worried about MLB and FS/Safety depth.

Kapri, Brennan and Juwan are all looking good. I'm no Hillman fan but I'm betting he will see the light (that is the light of his career flashing before his eyes) and will get serious and I think CJ is a baller.

Ball is a top 10 RB (imo--he certainly was at the end of last year).

So, We have Ward and a suspect Rahim and nothing else at S. That is what we should be worried about.
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Old 07-03-2014, 12:16 PM   #56
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Bring in the dude on the right. Cell phone stores can produce RBs.
Why does it have to be the guy on the right, you racist?
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Old 07-03-2014, 01:12 PM   #57
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Running backs don't matter. Exhibit A: Adrian Peterson. Exibit B: Chris Johnson. They can be a nice compliment, but running backs are about as important as kick returners. They aren't going to be the reason your team wins the Super Bowl.
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Old 07-03-2014, 01:22 PM   #58
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Running backs don't matter. Exhibit A: Adrian Peterson. Exibit B: Chris Johnson. They can be a nice compliment, but running backs are about as important as kick returners. They aren't going to be the reason your team wins the Super Bowl.


TD in Super Bowl XXXII.
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Old 07-03-2014, 01:23 PM   #59
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Old 07-03-2014, 02:08 PM   #60
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Particular running backs may not matter, but a running game that can actually produce does matter. With all the pressure on Manning in the SB, a working running attack could have made a world of difference.
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Old 07-03-2014, 02:21 PM   #62
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TD in Super Bowl XXXII.
I think rule changes have lessened their impacts since then. Marshawn had a 2 yard avg in this years SB. Ray rice had only 59 yards on 20 carries. Bradshaw didnt have a huge game(72 yards) either. Starks had only 52 yards. Stopped at 2011.
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Old 07-03-2014, 02:22 PM   #63
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The Law firm will probably be cut by the Bengals. He will look good in a Broncos uniform.
I would like that pickup. Underrated but would be a great addition. Could do damage with these soft fronts Manning generates.
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Old 07-03-2014, 02:46 PM   #64
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So you are saying the Broncos had O lines that could "move the pile" in 2000 - 2007? Shanahan ran a zone blocking line not a move the pile type O line.
Poor expression used. We could move the ball and get first downs when we needed to. We certainly were not as successful with as we were in 96-98 when we could dictate the run and get the difficult first down. Even with the ZBS
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Old 07-03-2014, 03:00 PM   #65
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Poor expression used. We could move the ball and get first downs when we needed to. We certainly were not as successful with as we were in 96-98 when we could dictate the run and get the difficult first down. Even with the ZBS
Yes Shanny always had a good running game, so much so that years after he left many of us were scratching our heads when play after play the H back would be stopped behind the LOS or at it and on a good play eck out a 3 yard gain. For years it was like what is wrong with this picture, that is not supposed to happen. Shanny spoiled us in the running game. Hell he could stick Vanna White in there and she would break off 1K.
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Old 07-03-2014, 03:02 PM   #66
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The OP's ridiculous tone aside, he has a point. The seven RB's on the roster have a combined 4 years experience between them, and all four of those are shared among CJ Anderson, Montee Ball and Ronnie Hillman. Two have starting experience, though you couldn't make a whole season's worth even if you combined Ball and Hillman's starts. RB is a young man's position, but when Hillman is your "verteran" it suddenly doesn't seem too crazy to consider bringing a veteran in to help mentor the younger guys, even if it's just for camp.
I think Ball is ready regardless of the number of starts If you look at Montee's last 5 - 6 games, there was a marked improvement in all areas. When we went through the number of 1000 yard runners following TD, each guy that stepped in had little to no starting experience and did fine. As for Hillman, he hasn't proven that he has overcome any of these things - it isn't about being a veteran. Yes, it would be nice to have a "veteran" in the mix who has proven capabilities at this level and not someone whose skill set has diminished to the point of being ineffective and overpaid.
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Old 07-03-2014, 03:37 PM   #67
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Plenty of mediocre RB s have been on Super Bowl winning teams as the starter.
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:25 PM   #68
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Old 07-03-2014, 05:21 PM   #69
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Is anyone else just not worried about this? Maybe my comfort is misguided, i just think we'll be fine.
Let's imagine for a moment that we did not lose 7 starters in the Superbowl and it was a much closer and well fought game. Let's just say we even lost by 10 points. That's 11 points away from winning the Superbowl. Would anybody be on here making a post about our RB position being a concern? I think not.
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Let's imagine for a moment that we did not lose 7 starters in the Superbowl and it was a much closer and well fought game. Let's just say we even lost by 10 points. That's 11 points away from winning the Superbowl. Would anybody be on here making a post about our RB position being a concern? I think not.
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Felix Jones and Chris Harris host a football camp together. Wouldn't shock me to see him brought in for a test drive.
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Old 07-03-2014, 07:32 PM   #72
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didn't see the year Peyton and Colts won the SB.. Joseph Addai ring a bell..the BIGGEST reason they got there ..
Addai was just a guy. The Manning offense made him what he was that season.
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Old 07-03-2014, 08:40 PM   #74
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Poor expression used. We could move the ball and get first downs when we needed to. We certainly were not as successful with as we were in 96-98 when we could dictate the run and get the difficult first down. Even with the ZBS
We got the difficult 1st down because of Howard Griffith and TD. Anyone else notice how once Howard had to retire the ability to pick up short yardage 1st downs went into the crapper.

That said TD was a special back with unique vision and excellent quickness and the speed to take it to the house. Peterson is now where near the quality back TD was in his prime. I know TD had a ton of touches in 1998 but he also sat out a lot of 4th quarters.

Teams would rather try to get the bigger chunks of yardage passing than grind it out on the ground but if a special back came along they would find a way to ride him just like Shanny rode TD.
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I have a very different opinion of Ronnie Hillman than maybe a lot of Broncos Country. When he was drafted in the 3rd round of the 2012 draft, I felt that he was a bit of a reach. I believed he could have been had later.

But Elway pulled the trigger and on he came to Denver. As a rookie, he did an okay job as the 3rd running back on the depth chart. He saw 212 snaps. With those opportunities, he carried the ball 85 times, for 330 yards and 1 TD. He averaged a decent 3.9 YPC. That lonely TD came at the expense of Defensive Rookie of the Year, Luke Kuechly, I might add.

Going into 2013 training camp, it was unclear where Hillman would fit in. Following an injury to Willis McGahee, Knowshon Moreno had been plugged into the starting lineup down the stretch the previous season and he played lights out, helping the Broncos’ offense to reach new heights. His versatility improved the offense in a big way. Moreno suffered an injury in the Divisional Round playoff loss to Baltimore and his timetable to return to training camp was unclear.

Compounding the issue was the fact that the Broncos had drafted Montee Ball in the 2nd round just a couple of months before camp. 2nd round draft picks come with pretty hefty expectations. So you had an injured veteran incumbent in Moreno and a shiny new draft pick in Ball. Where would Hillman fit in?

Surprisingly, Hillman ran with the 1st team all throughout camp and the preseason. His performace at the time was garnering rave reviews, both from fans and media. Everyone was seriously thinking he was going to be the starter in 2013. However, at the time, I was trying to cool everyone’s jets on that expectation because I knew that once the live bullets were flying, Moreno would be the primary back with the 1st team.

However, Hillman was Moreno’s backup. From week 1 through week 7, Hillman saw a total of 128 snaps, which isn’t bad for a player coming off the bench. Hillman’s fate took a turn for the worse when he fumbled on the goal line vs the Indianpolis Colts in week 7 that put the kybosh on a Broncos comeback victory. I don’t care who you are. If you fumble on the goal line, in the clutch, you’re going to feel the heat and likely lose some playing time. And that’s exactly what happened. Ball was plugged in as the backup and Hillman didn’t see the field again until week 16.

Hillman’s problem was that he didn’t take his demotion like a man. Like a pro. He was pouty and he was in denial. Offensive Coordinator, Adam Gase, spoke to that issue via the Denver Post:

“We’ve talked to him, (running backs coach) Eric (Studesville) and myself, as far as: ‘Hey, this is a new start to the year. Whatever happened in the past, you’ve got to build off it. We’ve just got to start over.’”

Starting over isn’t easy. But I think Hillman can do it. He is a very talented runner who now has 2 full seasons of NFL experience under his belt. He has a similar skill set as Darren Sproles. Maybe not as good of a receiver, but his body type and running style are very similar. Young runners often struggle to acclimate to the speed of the NFL game. It was no different for Hillman. And now he has to get his confidence back. I don’t expect Hillman to be a training camp casualty. Other than Montee Ball, Hillman is the only running back the Broncos have who has seen any meaningful NFL snaps. If something happens to Ball, the team will want to have a viable backup that has some experience.

Of course, C.J. Anderson, a 2nd year UDFA out of Cal, is going to be breathing down Hillman’s neck for the #2 RB, as will Brennan Clay and Kapri Bibbs.

Bibbs only played one year in Division I football in college with Colorado State. But in that one year, he led the nation with 31 TDs. He’s a real threat to make the final 53. He’s also a very talented runner. He received some very positive reviews during OTAs. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Broncos carry 4 RBs. Ball, Hillman, Anderson and Bibbs
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