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Old 06-22-2014, 10:24 PM   #1
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Default Gase, hit a nerve with Chickens fans

I'm not sure he really believes what he's saying, but in a BR article he says it was nothing Seattle did, but a lack of execution that led to that colossal abortion.

Just reading some of the posts by other fans that read the article, Seattle fans remind me of Florida Gator fans, they think football started in 1990. Chickens fans act like they have been dynasty for a decade. They very well may be a dynasty, but at some point all the rah-rah pep talks, competitive pie eating contests, and playing the dis-respect card to get your toops up for the big game doesn't do it anymore. You have to have talent. Not saying they don't, but I'm not convinced their offense is anything special. The last thing I ever imagined, was that the Bronco defense couldn't get off the field.

Seattle ran into a team decimated by injury, that IMO shot it's wad against New England, and was handicapped by terrible coaching. The Seattle fans were quick to rip on PFM for cheating, throwing nothing but bubble screens, and choking in the big game. Wow, way to go after that low hanging fruit there guys. I'll be the first to cop to the fact that 18 had a tough night, but he was behind the eight ball from the first snap. I would have just liked to have had the defense get off the field on 3rd down and give PFM the ball with good field position at any point in the first half. But the best team won that game, and probably would have won 3 out of 4.

The worst part is they have to play those heathens in Seattle this year, I just hope They don't get a bunch of guys hurt.
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Old 06-22-2014, 10:56 PM   #2
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Gase has a point in regards to the lack of execution. However, to say that Seattle's play had nothing to do with it is really doing the Broncos no favors. Got our asses kicked; simple as that. Own the ass kicking, rather then live in denial about it.
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:29 PM   #3
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That’s total and complete nonsense. The Seahawks were absolutely magnificent. Not saying we couldn’t have made a game out of it if we, y know, didn’t play like a bunch of drunk little girls playing hopscotch on a Salvador Dali pattern. But they played great.
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:31 AM   #4
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Credit Seattle's play, some to Denver's execution and a lot to Denver's injuries.
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A whole lot of people are just taking Gase's words the wrong way.

He said he made bad playcalls and we were outplayed (executed). That's pretty much getting defeated on every level. Even the Seahawk players have been saying themselves they don't get out of their base stuff a lot.

Even when you're getting your ass kicked sometimes you can just see it coming.
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Old 06-23-2014, 05:10 AM   #6
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His overstatements obscure the fact that he is on the right track.

Q: How would you apportion % between: a) Seahawks WON the Big Game, or b) Broncos LOST the Big Game? I think Broncos LOST gets 75%, Seahawks WON 25%. Broncos were a solid three times more responsible for the outcome than Seattle, to wit:
  • The safety was all Broncos
  • Interceptions were both giftwrapped, guys waited for the balls to flutter into them
  • Harvin's KO return was almost a straight line, never strayed more than 4-5 yards from the left hash - only guy he juked was Prater
  • There were 10 missed tackles on the two offensive TDs. Pinball Kearse bounced off 5 orange jerseys.

Seahawks had a great defense, fine. But not THAT great. Manning transcended every defense he faced all year, setting new all-time records in almost every passing, scoring and yardage category. Seahawks were not twice the defense than any other team ... sure, they caught the balls that fluttered in, and dutifully ran in the right direction as they bounced of would-be tacklers., and they are the champions. But their defense most certainly was not the same caliber of historic unit that the Broncos offense was.
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Pleeeease, Broncos lost the Super Bowl far more than the Seahawks won it. The proof ... just examine the 18 games leading up to the Super Bowl. You can forget about Peyton throwing MORE Ints than TDs in a game. In fact, forget the idea he even threw the same number of TDs and Ints in any game:
  1. Manning threw more td's than Ints in ALL 18 games - Super Bowl: 1 TD 2 Int
  2. Offense scored in ALL 36 halfs, lowest was 7 and 10 (twice each) Super Bowl: 0 first half, 8 second

The night-and-day difference between each and every of the 18 games preceding it, and the Super Bowl itself, simply cannot be explained by pointing to the Seahawks defense. Especially in light of the four bulleted points in my previous post. Call it a "bad day," call it a karma, their horoscope, call it a choke if you must. But don't pretend the Seahawks defense was some kind of legendary buzzsaw, destined to slice up the greatest offense in football history, when and wherever they might have met. It's insulting.
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That’s total and complete nonsense. The Seahawks were absolutely magnificent.
What?! When, where?

They won, fair and square, they were the better team. But they did it in calm, stand your ground and don't screw up style, not in "thundering magnificence from above" style. The interceptors looked like punt returners waiting on kicks ... Malcolm Smith almost signaled for a fair catch.
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:46 AM   #9
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Pleeeease, Broncos lost the Super Bowl far more than the Seahawks won it. The proof ... just examine the 18 games leading up to the Super Bowl. You can forget about Peyton throwing MORE Ints than TDs in a game. In fact, forget the idea he even threw the same number of TDs and Ints in any game:
  1. Manning threw more td's than Ints in ALL 18 games - Super Bowl: 1 TD 2 Int
  2. Offense scored in ALL 36 halfs, lowest was 7 and 10 (twice each) Super Bowl: 0 first half, 8 second

The night-and-day difference between each and every of the 18 games preceding it, and the Super Bowl itself, simply cannot be explained by pointing to the Seahawks defense. Especially in light of the four bulleted points in my previous post. Call it a "bad day," call it a karma, their horoscope, call it a choke if you must. But don't pretend the Seahawks defense was some kind of legendary buzzsaw, destined to slice up the greatest offense in football history, when and wherever they might have met. It's insulting.
"The night-and-day difference between each and every of the 18 games preceding it, and the Super Bowl itself, simply cannot be explained by pointing to the Seahawks defense."

The Seattle defense came to play. Your statement here does shore up the fact that Seattle's defense was all over Denver. They may not be the greatest of all time but if you want to talk execution, they did it. Your statement and Gase's also point to what I believe happened. The Broncos were not prepared in any way for that game. See John Fox.

Gase was right on about Seattle's offense. They are not anything special. But when playing a defense that wasn't anything special, including the 18 games leading up to the big one, they're going to look special. Why we need a defense that shows up and executes like Seattle's did.
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Gee Seattle, I am sorry you are upset about some coach speak. It's probably rough to hear it after winning the god damn super bowl.

I swear, their fan base is just stupid. But but, RESPECT US! Shut up.
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Old 06-23-2014, 07:09 AM   #11
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We had a bad game, but it wouldn't have mattered even if we didn't.

That said, Seattle fans are the must insufferable blow-hards on the internet right now. They have inferiority complexes because their team is so far away from the east coast they get ignored. So like Patriot fans who pretend the NFL started in 2000, Seattle fans like to pretend the NFL started in 2010.
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The first INT was all Peyton. Seattle brought a 6 man blitz which Peyton stepped up through, but he badly missed JT. The second INT was caused by Seattle's pass rush. It was either Avril or Bennett that hit Manning's arm and misdirected the pass. Moreno didn't appear to make much effort to come back to the ball, but that play doesn't happen without Seattle's pass rush.

Their pass rush was probably the biggest factor in the first half. Manning could never follow through with his throwing motion. It didn't help that we more/less abandoned the run after we went down by 15 points.

When we go up there in week 3, I think we need to make a commitment to the run and slow that pass rush via play-action.
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Old 06-23-2014, 07:24 AM   #13
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There is no mystery to what happened in the Superbowl. Denver came out with zero game and played the worst game of the year. Seattle played their best game in all 3 phases. Denver played like a pro golfer in the final group of a major who shoots 82.
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Old 06-23-2014, 08:10 AM   #15
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Well, if all goes as planned, we will be playing these turds three times this year. Forget all the talk, we'll see what we are made of after those contests.
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I think it was brilliant on the part of Elway to arrange to play Seattle in pre season assuming teams still do the own pre season scheduling. Lets get this intimidation factor out of the way in preseason or learn how far behind the champs we really are.
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I think it was brilliant on the part of Elway to arrange to play Seattle in pre season assuming teams still do the own pre season scheduling. Lets get this intimidation factor out of the way in preseason or learn how far behind the champs we really are.
I thought it was based on regions so teams don't travel across country.

Edit. Teams do have the power to pick their opponents. Regions are factored in as Arizona is the only other mountain zone team, and we play them every preseason.

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Sour grapes.

Seattle dominated this game from start to finish. There was not even a turning point that anyone could point to, the entire game was the turning point. At no point were the Hawks in danger of losing. If it makes you sleep better, Gase, go with it.
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I think it was brilliant on the part of Elway to arrange to play Seattle in pre season assuming teams still do the own pre season scheduling. Lets get this intimidation factor out of the way in preseason or learn how far behind the champs we really are.
Doesn't Denver play Seattle in preseason pretty much every year?
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We had a bad game, but it wouldn't have mattered even if we didn't.

That said, Seattle fans are the must insufferable blow-hards on the internet right now. They have inferiority complexes because their team is so far away from the east coast they get ignored. So like Patriot fans who pretend the NFL started in 2000, Seattle fans like to pretend the NFL started in 2010.
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Pleeeease, Broncos lost the Super Bowl far more than the Seahawks won it. The proof ... just examine the 18 games leading up to the Super Bowl. You can forget about Peyton throwing MORE Ints than TDs in a game. In fact, forget the idea he even threw the same number of TDs and Ints in any game:
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  2. Offense scored in ALL 36 halfs, lowest was 7 and 10 (twice each) Super Bowl: 0 first half, 8 second

The night-and-day difference between each and every of the 18 games preceding it, and the Super Bowl itself, simply cannot be explained by pointing to the Seahawks defense. Especially in light of the four bulleted points in my previous post. Call it a "bad day," call it a karma, their horoscope, call it a choke if you must. But don't pretend the Seahawks defense was some kind of legendary buzzsaw, destined to slice up the greatest offense in football history, when and wherever they might have met. It's insulting.
Well, when you S#$t the bed that bad, on the world's biggest stage, you're probably going to get insulted.

...and you have it coming.
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Sour grapes.

Seattle dominated this game from start to finish. There was not even a turning point that anyone could point to, the entire game was the turning point. At no point were the Hawks in danger of losing. If it makes you sleep better, Gase, go with it.
The turning point was the first snap.
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Hopefully our pass rush lays some serious pain on qbs this yr. Take out the QB and you win almost every game. Get the scared of getting blindsided and the rest takes care of itself by just playing smart.
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Seattle was just a better team from top to bottom that day
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