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Old 06-07-2014, 01:43 PM   #1
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Could melt snow and warn you of animals or obstructions in the road ahead.
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Old 06-07-2014, 02:01 PM   #2
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AWESOME!! Thanks for posting...
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I love it.

1. It would have to be tested for a number of years in a number of climates and locations. ie: Exposure to the heat in death valley 128 degrees for 12 hours a day, or the brutal winters of the northeast.

2. It would have to be strong enough to withstand the weight of semi trucks transporting very heavy loads, such as military equipment. ie: A fully loaded 18 wheeler going full speed and slamming on the brakes.

3. It would have to be tamper proof to prevent hacking and to prevent criminals from stealing the components.

4. It will have to prove it is durable, reliable and long lasting enough to make it cost efficient.

5. Most importantly. Depending on the design, it would most likely still need a flat surface, such as concrete to be placed upon, otherwise the earth beneath it will naturally move and rains will washout beneath it.
So it will still need to be surveyed, packed down, and have concrete or asphalt as a base.


That being said. It is absolutely brilliant. I love it. Very futuristic and just plain cool. Really love the changeable basketball court idea.

Good post. +1

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Old 06-07-2014, 02:19 PM   #4
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It was reported in the local news that they're going to test this on a section of highway in Sandpoint, Idaho. This area gets quite a bit of snow in the winter, so if the new technology really is able to use solar energy to melt the snow and ice, it will be a Godsend for driving in the winter.
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A few things:

1) Looks to be very bumpy
2) I am sure the unions that currently put concrete or tar won't be happy if they can't replace as much as currently. They have fought having recycled rubber from tires being part of the highway in Arizona so I can see them figuring out how to b**** about it.
3) Warn you of animals? Seems it would be a great way for poachers to hunt animals!

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A few things:

1) Looks to be very bumpy
2) I am sure the unions that currently put concrete or tar won't be happy if they can't replace as much as currently. They have fought having recycled rubber from tires being part of the highway in Arizona so I can see them figuring out how to b**** about it.
3) Warn you of animals? Seems it would be a great way for poachers to hunt animals!
Infrastructure is about the only good jobs we can't export, make it happen. Let the asphalt guys retrain or go the way of the blacksmith.

BTW is blacksmith a racist term under the new PC guidelines?
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I think it sounds very interesting, but I really really hate that presentation. 1) because it was made by a retard. 2) Because it promises you the moon. Which automatically sets off my "too good to be true" alarm.


I think this is very likely a bunch of bull****. I think it is equally likely that the people selling this are going to be very rich very soon.
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I think it sounds very interesting, but I really really hate that presentation. 1) because it was made by a retard. 2) Because it promises you the moon. Which automatically sets off my "too good to be true" alarm.


I think this is very likely a bunch of bull****. I think it is equally likely that the people selling this are going to be very rich very soon.
I did not like the presentation either. It's up there with Ghost Busters. Would not let kids watch.
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Once self driving cars are a hit the market (? 10-15yrs) this thing becomes obsolete.
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Here is an interesting video that gives several reasons why this idea is...impractical...to say the least.






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It's a pipedream at best. A scam at worst.

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I like the idea but it would never have a return investment.
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I like the idea but it would never have a return investment.

How about 350,000,000 electricity users
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Once self driving cars are a hit the market (? 10-15yrs) this thing becomes obsolete.
Self driving cars are going to power the future?
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I think you let private entities try this out before you let the govt start replacing roads with it. Let Walmart or someone fund the installation of these things in their parking lots, determine their reliability, durability, and sustainability before trying to replace public roads. Walmart is moving strongly towards solar power and this would also save them money and make them an attractive place to shop in northern climates.
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Let Walmart or someone fund the installation of these things in their parking lots
During the day parking lots are full of cars so how do the the solar panels get charged? And at night the parking lots are empty, but there is no sun.


I highly recommend watching the video I posted above. It's actually pretty interesting.
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During the day parking lots are full of cars so how do the the solar panels get charged? And at night the parking lots are empty, but there is no sun.


I highly recommend watching the video I posted above. It's actually pretty interesting.
28 min of video on something I am not that vested in. Can you summarize it for us. I am on my way to the couch to watch a movie. Couch plus movie is winning out.
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28 min of video on something I am not that vested in. Can you summarize it for us. I am on my way to the couch to watch a movie. Couch plus movie is winning out.
It's insanely expensive. The entire budget of the US government wouldn't begin to cover the cost.

The math doesn't add up. It couldn't produce nearly enough energy to melt snow like it promises.

The material it is made of wouldn't be durable enough to withstand the stress of traffic.

The material wouldn't provide enough grip for speeding cars when wet.

The idea of solar powered parking lots makes no sense. The sun would be blocked by parked cars during the day and there is no sun at night.

They also mention using this system to "power America" by using undergoround power lines. Well, underground powerlines cost ten times as much as the traditional method. And it would also create a redundant and less efficient power grid/highway system.

Asphalt is already recycled. This is one I can vouch for. One of my old friends used to manage a plant that did this for a company called Rogers Group.

LED lights on roads makes no sense. They would be invisible during bright daylight hours. And having headlights on cars is much more efficient at night.

And so on and so forth.

It really is a pretty interesting video. makes me wish I paid more attention in science class.

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Here is an interesting video that gives several reasons why this idea is...impractical...to say the least.


I was going to bring some of this up. Asphalt is cheap, recycled and can be shaped because it's poured. It also has give because it's mixed with tar so absorbs kinetic energy as you move over it. It's great for new roads and great for fixing old roads. And traction on glass is terrible. A rain storm would result in mass destruction and death on the highway. And since roads aren't flat, they curve and bend to contour to the landscape, trying fit all these perfectly flat pieces of glass together would be a nightmare.
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I've heard of this b4.

TERRIBLE idea.
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It's insanely expensive. The entire budget of the US government wouldn't begin to cover the cost.

The math doesn't add up. It couldn't produce nearly enough energy to melt snow like it promises.

The material it is made of wouldn't be durable enough to withstand the stress of traffic.

The material wouldn't provide enough grip for speeding cars when wet.

The idea of solar powered parking lots makes no sense. The sun would be blocked by parked cars during the day and there is no sun at night.

They also mention using this system to "power America" by using undergoround power lines. Well, underground powerlines cost ten times as much as the traditional method. And it would also create a redundant and less efficient power grid/highway system.

Asphalt is already recycled. This is one I can vouch for. One of my old friends used to manage a plant that did this for a company called Rogers Group.

LED lights on roads makes no sense. They would be invisible during bright daylight hours. And having headlights on cars is much more efficient at night.

And so on and so forth.

It really is a pretty interesting video. makes me wish I paid more attention in science class.

But.....Tron.
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It's insanely expensive. The entire budget of the US government wouldn't begin to cover the cost.

There are ways around this. With a product that can pay for itself and actually make money. Especially with a product that could potentially replace some billion dollar power plants.

The math doesn't add up. It couldn't produce nearly enough energy to melt snow like it promises.

It definitely possible. Depending on the type of storage for the power, also if it is tied into the grid the power could come from a place where there is sun shining. Actually kinda harmonious if you think about it.

The material it is made of wouldn't be durable enough to withstand the stress of traffic.

I dont see how you know enough about the product to claim this. It very well might have more longevity than current road materials. Also each individual unit cover could be replaced over time as it wears, melted down, and recycled.

The material wouldn't provide enough grip for speeding cars when wet.

Again, you don't know this. It could provide more traction for all you know. But I digress, this could definitely be an issue if they cant find a good material and texture.

The idea of solar powered parking lots makes no sense. The sun would be blocked by parked cars during the day and there is no sun at night.

Agreed. Plus this could cause some businesses to close off their parking lots to produce more energy.

They also mention using this system to "power America" by using undergoround power lines. Well, underground powerlines cost ten times as much as the traditional method. And it would also create a redundant and less efficient power grid/highway system.

Asphalt is already recycled. This is one I can vouch for. One of my old friends used to manage a plant that did this for a company called Rogers Group.

LED lights on roads makes no sense. They would be invisible during bright daylight hours. And having headlights on cars is much more efficient at night.

I'll be honest with you. I didn't realize this until you said it. The lights would be hard to see during sunshine. Plus I'm sure cars would still use headlights regardless.

And so on and so forth.

It really is a pretty interesting video. makes me wish I paid more attention in science class.

I don't think you know enough about the product to act like you'are nostra-freaking-damus

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Has the word Solar in it, can't work. Give me some coal powered roads.
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I don't think you know enough about the product to act like you'are nostra-freaking-damus
Actually most of what he wrote is common knowledge with regards to glass. Tempered glass is tempered glass. The properties for the different types of glass are well known. Glass wears out faster than rock. Asphalt gets more rough as it ages witch increases traction. Glass is the opposite. These guys didn't invent a new glass.
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Actually most of what he wrote is common knowledge with regards to glass. Tempered glass is tempered glass. The properties for the different types of glass are well known. Glass wears out faster than rock. Asphalt gets more rough as it ages witch increases traction. Glass is the opposite. These guys didn't invent a new glass.
You are better of just sticking solar panels next to the road. Driving on this solar glass panel, is beyond stupid.
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I've heard of this b4.

TERRIBLE idea.

The idea it self is fine. Can it be implemented on a wide scale, who knows. It's a work in progress. We are gonna need something like that to pull ourselves out of the morass.

Will technology save us or be the death of us?
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