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Old 06-03-2014, 02:44 PM   #176
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And the fact that we made no attempt to help during the attack? Yeah come for the bodies after this round of golf and a campaign stop in Vegas.
According the REPUBLICAN WRITTEN our military was never in a position to do anything as it was happening.

Why do you think rethugs are only yapping about what was said on the Sunday morning talk shows?... Because they ain't got ****. Every BS myth has been debunked and every other question has already been answered.
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Old 06-03-2014, 02:44 PM   #177
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Maybe Obama will trade him for 10 million illegal aliens?
As in let 10 million illegal aliens get a green card to get the one soldier out? Possible strategy (they think) to get the veterans vote.
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Old 06-03-2014, 02:45 PM   #178
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, yeah, as a way to blame republicans or dismiss it as unimportant. Like I mentioned they always do.
But correct me if I'm wrong but they are talking about it.
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Old 06-03-2014, 02:48 PM   #179
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Don't buy into his BS. Stevens was denied additional security by State more than once. Had he gone straight to the military against his State Dept, chain of command, it likely would've been career-ending.

In hindsight, that would've been better than life-ending. But it's usually bad form to criticize a guy who paid with his life while just following orders.
The military went to him twice,dumbass. He refused more security both times.
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The military went to him twice,dumbass. He refused more security both times.
Hicks says you're wrong.

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001...30284?mobile=y

This dude was there. Were you there?

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Old 06-03-2014, 02:53 PM   #181
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But correct me if I'm wrong but they are talking about it.

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Old 06-03-2014, 03:02 PM   #182
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But correct me if I'm wrong but they are talking about it.
You're wrong since I wrote "either not talking about it or barely." One story blaming republicans and /or dismissing the story as unimportant is "barely" in my book.
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Hicks says you're wrong.

http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001...30284?mobile=y

This dude was there. Were you there?
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/05/1...-military.html




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"In light of the uncertain security environment, US Mission Benghazi will submit specific requests to US Embassy Tripoli for additional physical security upgrades and staffing needs by separate cover,” said the cable, which was first reported by Fox News.

Army Gen. Carter Ham, then the head of the U.S. Africa Command, did not wait for the separate cable, however. Instead, after reading the Aug. 16 cable, Ham phoned Stevens and asked if the embassy needed a special security team from the U.S. military. Stevens told Ham it did not, the officials said.

Weeks later, Stevens traveled to Germany for an already scheduled meeting with Ham at AFRICOM headquarters. During that meeting, Ham again offered additional military assets, and Stevens again said no, the two officials said
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http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/01...ry-protection/

We can go all day long regurgitating the same thing. You haven't a clue as to why he did or didnt.


And Stevens did say no, when faced with this question from Ham. But he wasn’t saying no to an opportunity to have a big enough security force. He was saying no to an offer he didn’t have the authority to accept.

Read more at http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/01...M5Ag4ycqeZQ.99

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In a new report released on Tuesday, the House Armed Services Committee concludes that there was no way for the U.S. military to have responded in time to the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya to save the four Americans killed that night. In doing so, the report debunks entirely a right-wing myth that says the White House ordered the military not to intervene.
For months after the attack that resulted in the death of U.S. Ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens, conservative media was awash in reports that on the night of the assault the Obama administration at some point ordered the military not to take action that would have saved lives. This supposed “stand down order” led to a bevy of right-wing conspiracies about why the President and his administration had let the Americans die.
“Who told the SEALs to stand down?” Rep. Steve King asked in Nov. 2012, in just one of many interviews with Republicans referring to the response to Benghazi as “worse than Watergate.”
As Media Matters reports, Fox News cited reports of a stand-down order no fewer than 85 times during prime-time segments as of June 2013. As the new report — which the Republican majority of the committee authored –makes very clear in its findings, however, no such order ever existed. “There was no ‘stand down’ order issued to U.S. military personnel in Tripoli who sought to join the fight in Benghazi,” the report says, noting that the military was not positioned to respond to the attack.
“Given the military’s preparations on September 11, 2012, majority members have not yet discerned any response alternatives that could have likely changed the outcome of the Benghazi attack,” the report concludes.
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:25 PM   #187
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I don't give a **** what message the Taliban takes from this.
You should, this whole ordeal increases the danger our soldiers will be in over there.
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:33 PM   #188
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:50 PM   #189
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I find it amazing that no one thinks this has to do with relations with the Taliban going forward. If the Taliban are to remain the "enemy" in Afghan there is zero chance for peace or stability in the region. Some sort of understanding, likely an autonomous region, will have to be reached. The exchange as part of a broader signal of good faith negotiations makes perfect sense. Obama likely thought it would provide decent cover for the release of the 5 Talibs.

From the US standpoint I think the critical goal is an Afghanistan that does not support international terrorism. The goal of lifting them to freedom, human rights, etc. has been lost

'Mullah Zabihullah Mujahid, spokesman for the Taliban, rejected the White House plea for peace talks between the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, U.S. and NATO.'

"It won't help the peace process in any way, because we don't believe in the peace process..."

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Who are now being propped up by the political right to gain points in an election year? What could possibly be their motivation?
Started thinking about this post. Could have this been political propping up for the Left that ended up backfiring on Obama? I ask you Elusive, "What could possibly be their motivation?"
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Old 06-03-2014, 04:05 PM   #191
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Obama wants Guatanamo closed, getting rid of the worst of the worst allows him to begin cleaning the site out.

Obama wants out of Afghanistan

Obama is taking heat for leaving Americans in Benghazi to die with zero support.

The VA mess paints his administration as the incompetent mess it is

Obama saw getting a supposed POW as a way to show himself strong in a military light, unfortunately as with everything he does he's ill informed, makes the wrong decision and tries to spin his way out of a situation with blatant lies. The media is complicit so he usually gets called out on nothing.
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Hmmm

Not only that, but he also praised Allah to open his news conference at the WH. This story gets more odd by the minute.
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PESHAWAR — The Afghan Taliban are celebrating the release of their five top commanders — who were swapped in exchange for American Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl after being held in Guantanamo Bay for 12 years — serving their guests with sweets and goats cooked in rice.

This is a historic moment for us. Today our enemy (for the) first time officially recognized our status. I can’t explain how our people are happy and excited over this unbelievable achievement. Today we reached our destination,” a senior member of the Afghan Taliban told NBC News exclusively from a hideout in Afghanistan.


The Taliban claimed Qatar’s government played a decisive role in the deal between them and the United States that led to an exchange of high-profile prisoners on Saturday, most notably U.S. Army Sgt. Bergdahl.

The commander said he was not allowed by the Taliban shura, or council, to talk to the media about the exchange of prisoners, therefore, he should not be quoted by name.

He said the release of the top five commanders was great news that spread like wildfire among their fighters.

Our leader Mullah Mohammad Omar, after a long time, heard very good news. He is so happy and anxiously waiting to see his senior commanders,” the Taliban commander said.

Omar on Sunday released a rare statement calling the prisoner exchange a "great victory" for the Taliban.

According to the commander who spoke to NBC News, the release of Mulla Fazal Akhund, Noorullah Noori, Abdul Haq Waseeq, Khairullah Khairkhwa and Mohammad Nabi will boost the morale of their fighters.

“Once we confirmed the arrival of our five heroes back in Qatar, celebrations started everywhere in Afghanistan and the neighboring Pakistan. It’s nonstop. The guests were first served with sweets and green tea but now there are official celebrations on behalf of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (official name for the Afghan Taliban)," he said.

"Goats are being slaughtered and served with guests and in some places goats are being cooked in rice," the Taliban commander said.

The process to make the exchange happen was a lengthy one, according to the Taliban commander, but the governments in Pakistan and Afghanistan were specifically kept in the dark because of trust issues.

A 24-hour ceasefire was agreed upon between Taliban and U.S. forces when Bergdahl was brought to Afghanistan's Khost province to be handed over the Americans, Taliban sources told NBC News.

One Taliban source close to Bowe during his custody told NBC News that he initially didn't believe he was freed even when he saw U.S. officials and their helicopter.

— with Fazul Rahim in Kabul

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/bow...l-swap-n120561

Well that's just swell.

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****ing ridiculous. A clear victory for the Taliban and Susan rice is going around saying how honorably bowe was in service.

Backfire all around for this pathetic administration. Rice again looking stupid on TV.
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This is a historic moment for us. Today our enemy (for the) first time officially recognized our status. I can’t explain how our people are happy and excited over this unbelievable achievement. Today we reached our destination,” a senior member of the Afghan Taliban told NBC News exclusively from a hideout in Afghanistan.



Our leader Mullah Mohammad Omar, after a long time, heard very good news. He is so happy and anxiously waiting to see his senior commanders,” the Taliban commander said.

Does anyone want to try to spin this in a positive light for the U.S.?
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I hope they put chips in those guys.
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I hope they put chips in those guys.
Explosive ones would be nice.
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Barry's smile when Arabic is spoken speaks volumes.

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I've just felt sick all afternoon. The six kids that died searching for that scumbag and the rest of the platoon saying he was a deserter are trashed by the state department while the traitors parents get a shoulder from Obama in the Rose Garden. Auuugh disgusting!!!!
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