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Old 05-29-2014, 09:09 PM   #126
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The govt is out of control when it comes to spending. Both dems and repubs alike. When it comes to big ticket military items both parties have their pet projects depending on what state the hardware built. Trust me liberals from the shipyard states that new destroyer is being built at were quite happy when Obama revived it. Bush and Cheney cut it because it was so expensive.

Billions per ship.
Exactly. Socialist Progressives and establishment Republicans are the problem. A guy like Ron Paul would have been the perfect solution. There are so many special interests across the country, with people trying to vote themselves money, that good fiscally conservative candidates have historically had no chance.

The entire US system MUST fundamentally change back to a sustainable model, much like Dr. Paul prescribed, until then the gap between the rich and the poor will continue to get wider. Maybe one of these days people will start waking up. The ENTIRE system needs to be reformed: Healthcare, SS, Education, Housing, you name it. Remove taxpayer dollars from private industries. The Social Progressive model is a complete failure.

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Old 05-29-2014, 09:09 PM   #127
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Obama gets hit on hard but for liberals to pretend like Syria wasn't one of the biggest punkings in our history of mideast politics is kidding themselves.

Just had a chance to talk to some of my Israeli friends I met working the cruise ships. To them they see Obama being weak and partly to blame for the peace deal falling apart.

Project weakness and in that region you won't get anything done. Israel doesn't want to deal right now because they are afraid the USA will be weak and that scares them.
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Old 05-30-2014, 08:52 AM   #128
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Shinseki's done. Resignation today.

Thank you for your distinguished career, but good riddance.


I blame the inflammatory anti-Muslim youtube video.
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Old 05-30-2014, 09:00 AM   #129
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Right on cue, our dear buck passer in chief says that somehow the news of this systemic abortion at the VA never got to he or the VA head.

I guess America's become quite used to this guy lying straight to our face.
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Old 05-30-2014, 09:09 AM   #130
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"It is unfortunate that we had no idea that this thing we b****ed about 6 years ago was still happening on our watch. We are fully investigating how we were held so unaware of something we knew about for so long, and will have no comment while that investigation takes place.

Once the investigation is finished, we'll have no comment because at that point we'll tell you it's old news, and to stop being so Republican about the whole thing."
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Old 05-30-2014, 11:32 AM   #131
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Right on cue, our dear buck passer in chief says that somehow the news of this systemic abortion at the VA never got to he or the VA head.

I guess America's become quite used to this guy lying straight to our face.
We've become used to that for decades. Probably why this country is where its at, we just let everything just happen, b**** a little and move on. Shinseki resigning doesn't change what's been going on for 43 years, doesn't change a thing. The problem is on the inside and the outside not checking on what the inside is doing. Really sad.
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Old 05-30-2014, 11:56 AM   #132
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"It is unfortunate that we had no idea that this thing we b****ed about 6 years ago was still happening on our watch. We are fully investigating how we were held so unaware of something we knew about for so long, and will have no comment while that investigation takes place.

Once the investigation is finished, we'll have no comment because at that point we'll tell you it's old news, and to stop being so Republican about the whole thing."
help with the problems and maybe just maybe quit your b****ing. can the grumpy old party do this?
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Old 05-30-2014, 12:30 PM   #133
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We've become used to that for decades. Probably why this country is where its at, we just let everything just happen, b**** a little and move on. Shinseki resigning doesn't change what's been going on for 43 years, doesn't change a thing. The problem is on the inside and the outside not checking on what the inside is doing. Really sad.
I was reading a good article somewhere that talked about how these big institutional-cancer type problems are almost impossible to fix because the amount of attention and work it takes pretty much means you won't see real measurable results for years. Which is far beyond the timeframe most politicians care about. Our current class of political leadership isn't going to put in the work unless they can take credit for something in the short term.

Kinda like with publicly traded companies that try to jack their stock values instead of building a company for the long haul. Same basic human corruption at work.
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Old 05-30-2014, 02:27 PM   #134
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I thought the VA was supposed to be the model for Obamacare? Not lookin good.

And now Carney is resigning?
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Obviously it's all been one big Socialist lie and now the whole entire world can see it.
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How can anyone sit here and support single-payer after seeing first hand the result of the single-payer VA? Hello?

WE KNOW THE RESULTS! Do you have no brains?
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Not sure which story the liberals are going by. The VA is great, just like a single pay system should work. Oh wait, it's bad? Well, it's been that way before Obama, so the poor defenseless guy can't be blamed. Obama stated many times in the past how poor the VA system was working and vowed to change it. Oh wait, it's not working now? Gee, first Obama ha heard of it. How liberals can keep changing their stories with a straight face and at the same time, somehow believing they are objective really astounds. And this is just one of many subjects they do this. Sorry, but constant double talk and arguing against the obvious do not make them look intelligent despite their bloated egos.
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Not sure which story the liberals are going by. The VA is great, just like a single pay system should work. Oh wait, it's bad? Well, it's been that way before Obama, so the poor defenseless guy can't be blamed. Obama stated many times in the past how poor the VA system was working and vowed to change it. Oh wait, it's not working now? Gee, first Obama ha heard of it. How liberals can keep changing their stories with a straight face and at the same time, somehow believing they are objective really astounds. And this is just one of many subjects they do this. Sorry, but constant double talk and arguing against the obvious do not make them look intelligent despite their bloated egos.


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Carney has defended so many lies and spun so many tales they had to switch at this point.
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I thought the VA was supposed to be the model for Obamacare? Not lookin good.

And now Carney is resigning?
I guess it isn't considering Obamacare is working quite well.
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How many press secretary's did GWB,Clinton,GB sr.,Reagon go through?
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Gee, but Obama didn't know how bad things were at the VA. Either lies or gross incompetence, showing the usual government in charge, but no accountability, much less any consequences unless media outside the liberal circle get the story to the public. At least over 20 vets died waiting, likely many more than that, while those trying to get performance bonuses were fudging the books. But that wouldn't happen with a single pay system for the rest of us. Sure.
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Gee, but Obama didn't know how bad things were at the VA. Either lies or gross incompetence, showing the usual government in charge, but no accountability, much less any consequences unless media outside the liberal circle get the story to the public. At least over 20 vets died waiting, likely many more than that, while those trying to get performance bonuses were fudging the books. But that wouldn't happen with a single pay system for the rest of us. Sure.
If the day ever comes you have a clue as to WTF you are talking about,you may actually come across as somewhat credible.
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Gee, but Obama didn't know how bad things were at the VA. Either lies or gross incompetence, showing the usual government in charge, but no accountability, much less any consequences unless media outside the liberal circle get the story to the public. At least over 20 vets died waiting, likely many more than that, while those trying to get performance bonuses were fudging the books. But that wouldn't happen with a single pay system for the rest of us. Sure.
Right, the incompetence and butt covering began when Obama took over responsibility for the VA.

Two wars that weren't funded couldn't possibly have had any effect on an already inefficient healthcare system.
How about looking for ways to fix a long standing problem, instead of your usual 'Libruls be bad' predictable posts that politicize a national disgrace.
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I thought the VA was supposed to be the model for Obamacare? Not lookin good.

And now Carney is resigning?
Who said that the VA was the model for Obamacare? There is almost no resemblance between the two.
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There is some common sense.

Lawmakers: Allow veterans waiting for care to go to non-VA facilities

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even resulted in some dying while waiting for care.
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Obama sure uses the excuse of not knowing what's going on. The VA. The IRS. Went to a church for 20 years and didn't know the pastor stated negative things about our country. Had business dealings with a guy in Chicago who goes to jail, but Obama didn't know him. Announces his run for the presidency at a known terrorist's house, also served on 2 booards with the guy, but barely knows him. And there are his supporters, lapdogs, nodding their heads as to that making so much sense and telling us how a guy who apparently knows nothing is such a smart guy. Oh, and now he just suddenly released 5 Taliban terrorists for an American soldier who has been in captivity for the past 5 years. Let me guess, he didn't know he had been in captivity that long. Keep up the great work.
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Who said that the VA was the model for Obamacare? There is almost no resemblance between the two.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/op...eas.html?_r=1&

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And that brings me to Mitt Romney’s latest really bad idea, unveiled on Veterans Day: to partially privatize the Veterans Health Administration (V.H.A.).

What Mr. Romney and everyone else should know is that the V.H.A. is a huge policy success story, which offers important lessons for future health reform.
Krugman's state worship is (as usual) literally boundless.
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I know no one actually cares about the facts but the following articles kinda talk what really happened.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/nat...e-of-coverups/

http://www.govexec.com/management/20...ownfall/85573/

And like everything out of DC today it already has become hyper political about each party beating the other up to win election and not fixing the problem. And the problem with the VA wasn't the treatment but get access to the treatment.
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Krugman's state worship is (as usual) literally boundless.
Krugman doesn't even mention the PPACA in this op-ed, much less compare it to the VA.
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