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Old 06-25-2014, 06:56 AM   #76
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Bernie Sanders is not a Dem -- he's an independent.

He's our last chance.

Will they find a way to smear him -- or suicide him?
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Old 06-25-2014, 07:11 AM   #77
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Bernie Sanders is not a Dem -- he's an independent.

He's our last chance.

Will they find a way to smear him -- or suicide him?
He's a self-described socialist. There's no point smearing him. He has zero viability on a national stage.
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Old 06-25-2014, 08:07 AM   #78
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He's a self-described socialist. There's no point smearing him. He has zero viability on a national stage.
And Fox News tells us that socialists are the enemy.
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Old 06-25-2014, 08:16 AM   #79
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And Fox News tells us that socialists are the enemy.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/158978/de...deral-gov.aspx

Sorry dude. The term just doesn't sit well with anyone but Democrats.

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Old 06-25-2014, 08:53 AM   #80
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Jerry Brown is very Liberal isn't he? I always thought he was on the far left of the spectrum. What6 about that Gavin guy in San Francisco? I heard him talk a couple of times and seems like he might be going places. I imagine he is very Liberal as well.
Brown used to be very liberal. He's now a moderate and in fact quite conservative fiscally.

Gavin Newsome is very very liberal.
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:22 AM   #81
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In “Blood Feud: The Clintons vs. The Obamas,” that personal dislike is very intense indeed, particularly from the Bill Clinton part of the equation.

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Old 06-25-2014, 10:29 AM   #82
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when Hillary wins, I hope that the righties who threaten to leave the US actually do it this time.
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Old 06-25-2014, 11:18 AM   #83
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Sorry dude. The term just doesn't sit well with anyone but Democrats.

The U.S. propaganda machine since the 50s has been bombarding the country with a terror campaign built around the word, "SOCIALIST!" Actually, the capitalists started funding that campaign back in the 30s as part of their assault on labor. The funny thing is, when you don't use the term and instead ask people about specific policy ideas, they don't have any problem supporting some elements of socialism.
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Old 07-01-2014, 11:52 AM   #84
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In the end, the billionaire boys club that owns our government will get the candidate of their choice, and, once elected, that candidate, irrespective of party, will take his or her marching orders from the club.

Deck chairs on the Titanic...

In the immortal words of the late, great George Carlin: "America is a big club - and you ain't in it."
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:39 PM   #85
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I'd love to see it Biden vs Hilliary in the primary. You just know he will say some stupid ****. He is a lot like Bush IMO. Just sort of opens his mouth and stupid **** comes out.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:40 PM   #86
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I'd love to see it Biden vs Hilliary in the primary. You just know he will say some stupid ****. He is a lot like Bush IMO. Just sort of opens his mouth and stupid **** comes out.
Kind of like you, Cut?

You three could be in a band -- the ****mouths.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:42 PM   #87
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Biden would be the best for the republicans. Easier to tie him to Obama's failed policies.

Hilliary will paint herself as an outsider in the admin, one who was asked to do things she didn't agree with, so she resigned.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:43 PM   #88
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Kind of like you, Cut?

You three could be in a band -- the ****mouths.
Unlike you who would be in the group that eats our ****.
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Old 07-01-2014, 02:32 PM   #90
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I'm telling the left and the right that we have one thing we can do to make more money. Change the corp tax code.

Change the code into regions but require all companies based in America to bring home a small % of revenue from overseas to be taxed.

You know lower the rate to 10% but then require them to bring 35% of it home. I'm not saying those % would be right I'm just saying we need a change.

Clinton supports a dual system and I think Bush JR was open to the idea as well. Not sure about what a Carter or Reagan would think but if it makes more money for America I am all for it.

We need more cash returning to pay for all these services the liberals want, and the military and defense the repubs crave.
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Old 07-02-2014, 04:56 PM   #91
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Hillary's book sales dropping fast. That's good news.

Looks like the Dems might actually have to run a primary.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5552694.html
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Hillary might need Warren as VP to get the base in her corner. A Warren VP would also inspire the Repubs to vote. That would be a fun election!!!
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Old 07-02-2014, 08:19 PM   #93
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I sorta think it's interesting that the Dem for president thread still lives while the Repub thread has all but died. Already no one is talking about the Repub candidates.
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It's just too early to care GHWK. Right now repubs mostly looking at midterms which they see as more important then President right now. Give it some time. Also the less time the repub choices are out there the better lol.
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How come Hillary has six votes but only ONE PERSON voted for her


I smell voter fraud the Republicans always talk about!
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I sorta think it's interesting that the Dem for president thread still lives while the Repub thread has all but died. Already no one is talking about the Repub candidates.
Who do they have that can win in a general election? No one at this point. Jeb bush maybe? He could possibly make it competitive.
Rethugs have a lot candidates if you're just looking to win a primary. Beyond that Nothing much.
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Jeb Bush and Susana Martinez could make some big trouble for dems. It would most likely give the repubs Fla, and both would help with the Latinos.

Problem is immigration being made a huge deal and I doubt moderate repubs who are for immigration reform can win the primary.
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Old 07-05-2014, 12:28 PM   #98
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Where as NY and CA will support big time liberals for the dems. It makes it likely we could have a Dem President for quite some time. Unless Obama is that bad. We will see how much he hurts the overall party soon enough.
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At a certain point, if you have any relationship with dignity, you're supposed to get sick of being used and abused. Speaking of which: liberal Democrats.

Democratic politicians act like right-wingers. Liberals vote for them anyway.

The Democratic Party espouses right-wing policies. Self-described progressives give them cash.

Comedian Bill Maher gave them a million cash dollars, yet Democrats don't agree with him on anything. Why? Because he hates Republicans even more.

Why didn't Maher save his money? Or better yet, fund a group or a writer or an artist who promotes ideas he actually agrees with? Because he, like tens of millions of other liberals, are stuck in the two-party trap.

The relationship between liberals and Democrats is dysfunctional and enabling, abused pathetics sucking up to cruel abusers.

Progressives like Maher are like a kid with two rotten parents. The dad drinks and hits him; the mom drinks less and hits him less. The best call is to run away from home -- instead, most children in that situation will draw closer to their mothers.

Voting-age progressives, on the other hand, are adults. When will they kick the Democratic Party to the curb, as Ricki Lake used to say?

Probably not in time for 2016. But they ought to.

You don't have to be clairvoyant to see that the next presidential election promises nothing for liberals but more of the same: dismay, disappointment and disgust -- in no small part with themselves.

Hillary Clinton, a conservative warmonger ideologically indistinguishable from Dwight Eisenhower, will almost certainly be the Democratic nominee. But she isn't really a Democrat. Traditionally, Democrats were pro-worker; she and her husband pushed through NAFTA, GATT, the WTO and a slew of free-trade scams that have destroyed American jobs and depressed salaries. Democrats cared about the poor; Hillary has never so much as suggested a substantial anti-poverty initiative. Democrats aren't supposed to invade sovereign countries for the hell of it; Clinton repeatedly pushed WMD lies, voted to invade Iraq and still hasn't apologized for the two million Iraqis whose deaths she shares responsibility for. Democrats want single-payer healthcare; instead, she created the template for Obamacare, which keeps rates high to protect insurance company profits.

Yet in today's "Democratic" Party, Hillary is "inevitable."

Yes, the highly resumeed, slightly accomplished ex-senator could face a challenge from the left. But not a real one. Even if party bosses allow an actual primary process (they did not in 2012), any primary challenge will be symbolic and impotent (hello Bernie Sanders), poorly funded and sad, raising the faded, tattered flag of liberalism in a quixotic bid to coat Hill's coronation with a veneer of small-d democratic legitimacy.

If you're a leftie, the Democratic establishment doesn't care about your opinion. They certainly don't want your input. What they want is your vote -- in exchange for exactly nothing in return. They're political parasites, draining the enthusiasm and idealism of progressives, simultaneously neutering and exploiting mainline libs.

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Jeb Bush and Susana Martinez could make some big trouble for dems. It would most likely give the repubs Fla, and both would help with the Latinos.

Problem is immigration being made a huge deal and I doubt moderate repubs who are for immigration reform can win the primary.
Fla. isn't bush country no more,but any repubs looking to even come close to getting elected president has to win Florida. Dems could win without fla.
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