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Old 05-13-2014, 04:11 PM   #1
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Yes, according to Paul Craig Roberts. Read why...

May 13 (King World News) - Washington Is Driving The World To The Final War

By Dr. Paul Craig Roberts

When the Soviet Union collapsed, it cleared the way for the rise of the neoconservatives and their ideology of U.S. world hegemony. The neoconservatives concluded that the Soviet collapse brought the end of history, by which they meant that history had chosen “American democratic capitalism,” which is neither democratic nor capitalist, as history’s final statement. History’s choice gives the government of the “exceptional, indispensable” American people the right to world hegemony. The problem for the neoconservatives is that not all of the world agrees with “history’s choice.” Independent states, such as Serbia, Iraq, Libya, Iran, China, and Russia did not see themselves as provinces in Washington’s empire. Neither do India, Brazil, South Africa, Venezuela, Bolivia, and Ecuador.

The neoconservatives made a concerted and successful effort to take control of U.S. foreign policy and military doctrine. With the Clinton regime’s attack on Serbia, Washington began eliminating governments that are obstacles to its hegemony.

The U.S. government has overthrown the Iraqi and Libyan governments with military force, instigated a military attack by outside Islamist forces on the Syrian government, demonized Iran as a precursor to military attack, captured the former Russian province of Georgia in a U.S.-financed “color revolution,” overthrown the elected Honduran government, unleashed orchestrated protests against the government of Venezuela, threatened Bolivia and Ecuador, routinely attacks with drones and missiles populations in Pakistan and Yemen, and has been at war against the Taliban in Afghani- stan for 13 years.

Iran, Russia, and China are being surrounded with U.S. military bases, and now the neoconservatives in Washington have captured Ukraine with a Washing- ton-sponsored coup against a democratically elected government. Washington claims that the Ukraine government was corrupt. Corrupt like who — Washington and the EU?

Washington’s coup in Ukraine brought not only a threat to the Russian population in Ukraine but also a direct strategic threat to Russia itself. The Russian government got in the way of Washington’s march to hegemony by, together with the UK parliament, blocking Obama’s military invasion of Syria and by producing a diplomatic solution to Iranian enrichment of uranium for nuclear energy. Washington was much annoyed as Washington had invested much time and money in setting up Syria and Iran for military attack.

Washington concluded that Russia needed to be confronted with, or distracted by, problems that would leave the Russian government less confident or able to counter Washington’s aggression elsewhere....

Ukraine presented the perfect opportunity for Washington to advance its hegemonic agenda. In
a speech at the National Press Club last December, Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland boasted that Washington had invested $5 billion in non- governmental organizations (NGOs) in Ukraine. Allegedly, the purpose of NGOs is to “teach democracy.” However, Ukraine already had a democracy. In reality the NGO organizations are U.S. fifth columns that can be used to organize protests and to provide support for Washington’s candidates for the Ukraine government.

Western pressure was applied to the democratically elected government of President Victor Yanukovich to join the EU. The Ukrainian government considered the proposal and decided rationally that the Ukraine economy was integrated with the Russian economy and that the trade, subsidy, and loan advantages of its association with Russia were worth more than EU membership, which would likely bring an IMF adjustment program that would result in the looting of the Ukraine economy. When Ukraine declined EU membership, Washington set in motion its NGO fifth columns. Protests began in Kiev demand- ing that the elected government change its mind and join the EU.

The protests were nonviolent until well-organized ultra-nationalist organizations, such as the Right Sector introduced violence and took over the pro- tests, changing the demands from joining the EU to overthrowing the democratic government. President Yanukovich had reached an agreement with EU representatives to implement constitutional changes that could result in Ukraine being voted into the EU, but this agreement fell by the wayside with the rise of the Right Sector’s takeover of the protests.

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Ukraine is going to be a trial - maybe a nightmare -- for clowns around here limited by a very short attention span.

Why?

Because according to Zbigniew Brzezinski Ukraine is part of the heartland of Europe -- and is crucial for the stability of Europe. This is not the Balkans. The present crisis may well continue for many years.
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Why did the US deploy advanced patriot missiles in Poland, near the Russian border, in 2010?

Poland to Deploy U.S. Missiles Near Russia

By JUDY DEMPSEY
Published: January 21, 2010

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— Three months after the United States announced a reformulated missile-defense plan for Poland, the Polish defense minister has announced that American surface-to-air missiles will be deployed near Russian soil.

The minister, Bogdan Klich, said Wednesday that an undisclosed number of missiles would be deployed in the vicinity of Morag, in northern Poland, just 35 miles from the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad. He said the missiles could arrive as soon as late March or early April.

He said the decision to base the missiles near Morag, and not Warsaw, had no political or strategic significance. “The only reason was the good infrastructure,” Mr. Klich said.

The United States had promised the missiles to Poland in October, after President Obama had scrapped a missile-defense system proposed by President George W. Bush.

Morag is already home to a Polish military base. Mr. Klich said it could easily be adapted to the needs of the new missile battery and the American soldiers who would be based in Poland once the missiles were sent there.

While the placement of the missiles so close to Russia could be seen as provocative, Russia denied a report that it planned to increase the arsenal of its Baltic Fleet in response to Poland’s announcement.

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We are told these missiles will protect Europe from Iran. Does anyone believe this? Except for idiots like W*gs and Elsid, even the man on the street has enough brains to see this for the lie that it is. MHG
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More gaffe swallowing of PCR spooge.
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We are told these missiles will protect Europe from Iran. Does anyone believe this? Except for idiots like W*gs and Elsid, even the man on the street has enough brains to see this for the lie that it is. MHG
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The U.S. government has overthrown the Iraqi and Libyan governments with military force, instigated a military attack by outside Islamist forces on the Syrian government, demonized Iran as a precursor to military attack, captured the former Russian province of Georgia in a U.S.-financed “color revolution,” overthrown the elected Honduran government, unleashed orchestrated protests against the government of Venezuela, threatened Bolivia and Ecuador, routinely attacks with drones and missiles populations in Pakistan and Yemen, and has been at war against the Taliban in Afghani- stan for 13 years.

Iran, Russia, and China are being surrounded with U.S. military bases, and now the neoconservatives in Washington have captured Ukraine with a Washing- ton-sponsored coup against a democratically elected government. Washington claims that the Ukraine government was corrupt. Corrupt like who — Washington and the EU?


I hate to break it to you, Gaffo, but this guy is nuts.
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The U.S. government has overthrown the Iraqi and Libyan governments with military force, instigated a military attack by outside Islamist forces on the Syrian government, demonized Iran as a precursor to military attack, captured the former Russian province of Georgia in a U.S.-financed “color revolution,” overthrown the elected Honduran government, unleashed orchestrated protests against the government of Venezuela, threatened Bolivia and Ecuador, routinely attacks with drones and missiles populations in Pakistan and Yemen, and has been at war against the Taliban in Afghani- stan for 13 years.

Iran, Russia, and China are being surrounded with U.S. military bases, and now the neoconservatives in Washington have captured Ukraine with a Washing- ton-sponsored coup against a democratically elected government. Washington claims that the Ukraine government was corrupt. Corrupt like who — Washington and the EU?


I hate to break it to you, Gaffo, but this guy is nuts.
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More gaffe swallowing of PCR spooge.

That's all you have to do to get paid?

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http://kerry-patton.com/how-russia-d...united-states/

Controversial for many, I am sure, but truth be told, whether anyone likes it or not, Russia has all the trump cards stacked against the United States right now. This means, in reality, they defeated us—well, at least during this iteration of the ongoing Cold War. But how? How did Russia accomplish this task is a question that must be asked.
Unlike the United States, Russia, like the majority of countries, doesn’t play any game based on time. Time is on their side. And when it comes to Russian operations against the United States, they stayed on track keeping their eyes and ears close to the monitor tracking our every move. Unfortunately, during the late 80’s, when President Reagan confronted the old Soviet Union, most Westerns believed the game was over and we won. Unfortunately, we didn’t really win anything. But worse, we took our eyes off the ball.
Russia played a very methodical infiltration game that took a prolonged amount of time to actually play. It was a game of old school influence operations. They groomed their own citizens at birth to learn how to become masters at infiltration into western societies. Today, oligarchs run rampant behind the scenes in Hollywood and American media influencing a magnitude of information that socially conditions us. Just ask yourself why the 2012 remake of the 1980’s Patrick Swayze hit Red Dawn had nothing to do about Russia but instead everything to do with North Korea.
Russian Spy Anna Chapman and her crew were not necessarily conducting the traditional spy-game of espionage. They were infiltrators. And once they infiltrated the system or network of their choosing, they would begin a unique influence campaign. Maybe we should keep a closer eye on Mikhail Prokhorov, owner of the Brooklyn Nets, and begin asking the critical question as to why he really wishes to relocate his team to Russia.
We have been influenced by Russian operatives and many believe this is all some black helicopter conspiracy but ask any US intelligence officer who works Russian operations and they will confirm everything here. But how good has Russia been with their influence operations?
Look at today’s Department of Education, Common Core, nationally mandated testing of public school children. Look at our Department of Environmental Protection and the ridiculous rules and regulation for what land owners and companies can and cannot do. Federal entities are full of agents of influence.
Look at US natural gas production. Understand that we are the world’s number one producer of natural gas but ask, why we are not the world’s number one exporter of such a commodity. The answer is simple. We placed too much red tape on our refinement that fails to allow exportation into Europe. Think someone or several people here in the United States with some Russian influence had anything to do with making those strict rules and regulations? Count on it.
Who cares about natural gas, right?
It just so happens to be that Russia is the world’s number one exporter of natural gas. For them, that is their first trump card. Now begin to look at their physical actions throughout Eastern Europe. What would sanctions do to stop Russia’s expansion in the Ukraine? Where will they go next—Georgia, Albania, Estonia, Lithuania, Poland? You tell me. Scary question here though, but what would stop them? I assure you it won’t be sanctions.
Sanctions cannot stop Russia. They can easily play against sanctions and merely stop all exportation of their natural gas into Western Europe. That would be a vital blow to Europe not only crippling their energy infrastructure but also economically. The cost to import the limited amounts of US natural gas we actually could export today would be overwhelming (unless of course, refining red-tape is lifted and we begin the processing immediately).
Economically, Russia has a trump card. But they have even a bigger trump card few ever thought about—Space. As The Telegraph reported earlier today, Russia has decided to ban the United States from using the International Space Station. The biggest mistake in modern US history was ridding our space program. Think about it. How much of our own military might is dependent upon our space systems? Shut our space assets down, and our military might is crippled. To me, that is the biggest trump card Russia has today.
Let me be blunt. We are screwed. Sure, we are screwed but this doesn’t mean anyone needs to enter a state of paranoia. We just need to realize through some gap analysis our own shortfalls and be willing to rectify them—and fast. Russia took off the gloves and we continue to sit in the corner listening to our cut man when in reality we should have realized we are not in a boxing match. We are in a street fight without any rules. We can still win the ongoing war against Russia but right now, we are getting our asses kicked in this current battle.
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Russia "beat" the US because Putin is a virile man with a huge cock, and Obama is a weak fag.

Right, righties?
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Russia and China have some very very big economic trump cards right now. Gold and Gas and Manufacturing.

But the US has the big military trump card. We could wipe them both out (with a lot of collateral damage, though).

Our real ace in the hole is that we have bigger and a lot more deranged psychopaths running our show, who are not afraid to **** it all up to get what they want.

Putin and Kim Jong Un got nothin on us. We got Henry Paulson and Jon Corzine and Lloyd Blankfein.

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Russia and China have some very very big economic trump cards right now. Gold and Gas and Manufacturing.

But the US has the big military trump card. We could wipe them both out (with a lot of collateral damage, though).

Our real ace in the hole is that we have bigger and a lot more deranged psychopaths running our show, who are not afraid to **** it all up to get what they want.

Putin and Kim Jong Un got nothin on us. We got Henry Paulson and Jon Corzine and Lloyd Blankfein.

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Why did the US deploy advanced patriot missiles in Poland, near the Russian border, in 2010?

Poland to Deploy U.S. Missiles Near Russia

By JUDY DEMPSEY
Published: January 21, 2010

BERLIN
— Three months after the United States announced a reformulated missile-defense plan for Poland, the Polish defense minister has announced that American surface-to-air missiles will be deployed near Russian soil.

The minister, Bogdan Klich, said Wednesday that an undisclosed number of missiles would be deployed in the vicinity of Morag, in northern Poland, just 35 miles from the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad. He said the missiles could arrive as soon as late March or early April.

He said the decision to base the missiles near Morag, and not Warsaw, had no political or strategic significance. “The only reason was the good infrastructure,” Mr. Klich said.

The United States had promised the missiles to Poland in October, after President Obama had scrapped a missile-defense system proposed by President George W. Bush.

Morag is already home to a Polish military base. Mr. Klich said it could easily be adapted to the needs of the new missile battery and the American soldiers who would be based in Poland once the missiles were sent there.

While the placement of the missiles so close to Russia could be seen as provocative, Russia denied a report that it planned to increase the arsenal of its Baltic Fleet in response to Poland’s announcement.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/wo...land.html?_r=0
Surface to air missiles are for Air Defense....what is Putin afraid of? Secret Nuclear tipped surface to air missiles?
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Surface to air missiles are for Air Defense....what is Putin afraid of? Secret Nuclear tipped surface to air missiles?
Good you mentioned this. The US claims the placement is to defend Europe against Iranian missiles -- which is absurd. Only fools like W*gs believe this.

Why then install ABMs in Poland?

The answer is scary. These missiles are part of the US nuclear first strike policy. They would take out any remaining Russian missiles that might survive a US first strike and be used in a counter attack against the US.

ABMs are ineffective to stop a first strike -- but might be very effective against a counter attack, involving far fewer ICBMs.

In fact, this is the only plausible reason for installing US ABMs in Poland.
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Excellent piece by John Pilger that agrees with PCR. MHG

Break the Silence: a World War is Beckoning

By John Pilger
Global Research, May 14, 2014


Why do we ­tolerate the threat of ­another world war in our name?

Why do we allow lies that justify this risk? The scale of our ­indoctrination, wrote Harold Pinter, is a “brilliant, even witty, highly successful act of ­hypnosis”, as if the truth “never happened even while it was happening”.

Every year the American historian William Blum publishes his “updated summary of the record of US foreign policy” which shows that, since 1945, the US has tried to ­overthrow more than 50 governments, many democratically elected; grossly interfered in elections in 30 countries; bombed the civilian populations of 30 countries; used chemical and biological weapons; and attempted to assassinate foreign leaders.

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Controversial for many, I am sure, but truth be told, whether anyone likes it or not, Russia has all the trump cards stacked against the United States right now. This means, in reality, they defeated us—well, at least during this iteration of the ongoing Cold War. But how? How did Russia accomplish this task is a question that must be asked.
Unlike the United States, Russia, like the majority of countries, doesn’t play any game based on time. Time is on their side. And when it comes to Russian operations against the United States, they stayed on track keeping their eyes and ears close to the monitor tracking our every move. Unfortunately, during the late 80’s, when President Reagan confronted the old Soviet Union, most Westerns believed the game was over and we won. Unfortunately, we didn’t really win anything. But worse, we took our eyes off the ball.
Russia played a very methodical infiltration game that took a prolonged amount of time to actually play. It was a game of old school influence operations. They groomed their own citizens at birth to learn how to become masters at infiltration into western societies. Today, oligarchs run rampant behind the scenes in Hollywood and American media influencing a magnitude of information that socially conditions us. Just ask yourself why the 2012 remake of the 1980’s Patrick Swayze hit Red Dawn had nothing to do about Russia but instead everything to do with North Korea.
Russian Spy Anna Chapman and her crew were not necessarily conducting the traditional spy-game of espionage. They were infiltrators. And once they infiltrated the system or network of their choosing, they would begin a unique influence campaign. Maybe we should keep a closer eye on Mikhail Prokhorov, owner of the Brooklyn Nets, and begin asking the critical question as to why he really wishes to relocate his team to Russia.
We have been influenced by Russian operatives and many believe this is all some black helicopter conspiracy but ask any US intelligence officer who works Russian operations and they will confirm everything here. But how good has Russia been with their influence operations?
Look at today’s Department of Education, Common Core, nationally mandated testing of public school children. Look at our Department of Environmental Protection and the ridiculous rules and regulation for what land owners and companies can and cannot do. Federal entities are full of agents of influence.
Look at US natural gas production. Understand that we are the world’s number one producer of natural gas but ask, why we are not the world’s number one exporter of such a commodity. The answer is simple. We placed too much red tape on our refinement that fails to allow exportation into Europe. Think someone or several people here in the United States with some Russian influence had anything to do with making those strict rules and regulations? Count on it.
Who cares about natural gas, right?
It just so happens to be that Russia is the world’s number one exporter of natural gas. For them, that is their first trump card. Now begin to look at their physical actions throughout Eastern Europe. What would sanctions do to stop Russia’s expansion in the Ukraine? Where will they go next—Georgia, Albania, Estonia, Lithuania, Poland? You tell me. Scary question here though, but what would stop them? I assure you it won’t be sanctions.
Sanctions cannot stop Russia. They can easily play against sanctions and merely stop all exportation of their natural gas into Western Europe. That would be a vital blow to Europe not only crippling their energy infrastructure but also economically. The cost to import the limited amounts of US natural gas we actually could export today would be overwhelming (unless of course, refining red-tape is lifted and we begin the processing immediately).
Economically, Russia has a trump card. But they have even a bigger trump card few ever thought about—Space. As The Telegraph reported earlier today, Russia has decided to ban the United States from using the International Space Station. The biggest mistake in modern US history was ridding our space program. Think about it. How much of our own military might is dependent upon our space systems? Shut our space assets down, and our military might is crippled. To me, that is the biggest trump card Russia has today.
Let me be blunt. We are screwed. Sure, we are screwed but this doesn’t mean anyone needs to enter a state of paranoia. We just need to realize through some gap analysis our own shortfalls and be willing to rectify them—and fast. Russia took off the gloves and we continue to sit in the corner listening to our cut man when in reality we should have realized we are not in a boxing match. We are in a street fight without any rules. We can still win the ongoing war against Russia but right now, we are getting our asses kicked in this current battle.
Can't run a space program while doling out 50% tax cuts to the rich and their corporations. Fortunately, they're keeping those piles of money safe in offshore banks so if we ever need it... wait a minute.
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Good you mentioned this. The US claims the placement is to defend Europe against Iranian missiles -- which is absurd. Only fools like W*gs believe this.

Why then install ABMs in Poland?

The answer is scary. These missiles are part of the US nuclear first strike policy. They would take out any remaining Russian missiles that might survive a US first strike and be used in a counter attack against the US.

ABMs are ineffective to stop a first strike -- but might be very effective against a counter attack, involving far fewer ICBMs.

In fact, this is the only plausible reason for installing US ABMs in Poland.
MHG
this is a ridiculous argument....nevermind the hundreds of ICBM's in the US, and in Europe, the sea launched ICBM's, cruise missiles on B-52's, B-1's, and aboard other sea vessels. Putin has cried and b****ed about this missile shield for years and finally got his way with Obummer. Putin has been emboldened ever since.
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Just ask yourself why the 2012 remake of the 1980’s Patrick Swayze hit Red Dawn had nothing to do about Russia but instead everything to do with North Korea
The movie was originally shot where the Chinese were the bad guys but China threatened to block all MGM movies that year because of it. Also, the Russians were included as bad guys in the remake as well. They were "advisors" to the task force that invaded the US.

This movie was terrible but had a very interesting history when it came to it being developed.
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Good you mentioned this. The US claims the placement is to defend Europe against Iranian missiles -- which is absurd. Only fools like W*gs believe this.

Why then install ABMs in Poland?

The answer is scary. These missiles are part of the US nuclear first strike policy. They would take out any remaining Russian missiles that might survive a US first strike and be used in a counter attack against the US.

ABMs are ineffective to stop a first strike -- but might be very effective against a counter attack, involving far fewer ICBMs.

In fact, this is the only plausible reason for installing US ABMs in Poland.
MHG
You are confusing two different weapon system and their capabilities, and you are making stuff up on the use of ABM to justify your point. The arrival of Short Range Surface to Air Batteries is very non-hostile act. First Russian Military understand the SAM capabilities and know the provide little risk to their military front, second they also understand the symbolic gesture that US in making by deploying force to NATO allies.
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Originally Posted by ant1999e View Post
The biggest mistake in modern US history was ridding our space program. Think about it. How much of our own military might is dependent upon our space systems? Shut our space assets down, and our military might is crippled. To me, that is the biggest trump card Russia has today.
Let me be blunt. We are screwed.
Come at me bro!

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