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Old 05-05-2014, 11:36 AM   #26
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You're not very bright. You said it yourself. Catering to the majority is a majority privilege.
So your idea of "white privilege" consists of the choice of toiletries offered up by a hotel? What I call an inconvenience you and your ilk proclaim as the basis for a racist political movement...
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I'd love an example from your personal experience.
50 examples of White Privilege

1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.

2. I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.

3. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.

4. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.

5. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.

6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.

7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.

8. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.

9. If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.

10. I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race.

11. I can be casual about whether or not to listen to another person's voice in a group in which s/he is the only member of his/her race.

12. I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of my race represented, into a supermarket and find the staple foods which fit with my cultural traditions, into a hairdresser's shop and find someone who can cut my hair.

13. Whether I use checks, credit cards or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of financial reliability.

14. I can arrange to protect my children most of the time from people who might not like them.

15. I do not have to educate my children to be aware of systemic racism for their own daily physical protection.

16. I can be pretty sure that my children's teachers and employers will tolerate them if they fit school and workplace norms; my chief worries about them do not concern others' attitudes toward their race.

17. I can talk with my mouth full and not have people put this down to my color.

18. I can swear, or dress in second hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty or the illiteracy of my race.

19. I can speak in public to a powerful male group without putting my race on trial.

20. I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.

21. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group.

22. I can remain oblivious of the language and customs of persons of color who constitute the world's majority without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion.

23. I can criticize our government and talk about how much I fear its policies and behavior without being seen as a cultural outsider.

24. I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk to the "person in charge", I will be facing a person of my race.

25. If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven't been singled out because of my race.

26. I can easily buy posters, post-cards, picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys and children's magazines featuring people of my race.

27. I can go home from most meetings of organizations I belong to feeling somewhat tied in, rather than isolated, out-of-place, outnumbered, unheard, held at a distance or feared.

28. I can be pretty sure that an argument with a colleague of another race is more likely to jeopardize her/his chances for advancement than to jeopardize mine.

29. I can be pretty sure that if I argue for the promotion of a person of another race, or a program centering on race, this is not likely to cost me heavily within my present setting, even if my colleagues disagree with me.

30. If I declare there is a racial issue at hand, or there isn't a racial issue at hand, my race will lend me more credibility for either position than a person of color will have.

31. I can choose to ignore developments in minority writing and minority activist programs, or disparage them, or learn from them, but in any case, I can find ways to be more or less protected from negative consequences of any of these choices.

32. My culture gives me little fear about ignoring the perspectives and powers of people of other races.

33. I am not made acutely aware that my shape, bearing or body odor will be taken as a reflection on my race.

34. I can worry about racism without being seen as self-interested or self-seeking.

35. I can take a job with an affirmative action employer without having my co-workers on the job suspect that I got it because of my race.

36. If my day, week or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether it had racial overtones.

37. I can be pretty sure of finding people who would be willing to talk with me and advise me about my next steps, professionally.

38. I can think over many options, social, political, imaginative or professional, without asking whether a person of my race would be accepted or allowed to do what I want to do.

39. I can be late to a meeting without having the lateness reflect on my race.

40. I can choose public accommodation without fearing that people of my race cannot get in or will be mistreated in the places I have chosen.

41. I can be sure that if I need legal or medical help, my race will not work against me.

42. I can arrange my activities so that I will never have to experience feelings of rejection owing to my race.

43. If I have low credibility as a leader I can be sure that my race is not the problem.

44. I can easily find academic courses and institutions which give attention only to people of my race.

45. I can expect figurative language and imagery in all of the arts to testify to experiences of my race.

46. I can chose blemish cover or bandages in "flesh" color and have them more or less match my skin.

47. I can travel alone or with my spouse without expecting embarrassment or hostility in those who deal with us.

48. I have no difficulty finding neighborhoods where people approve of our household.

49. My children are given texts and classes which implicitly support our kind of family unit and do not turn them against my choice of domestic partnership.

50. I will feel welcomed and "normal" in the usual walks of public life, institutional and social.
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So your idea of "white privilege" consists of the choice of toiletries offered up by a hotel? What I call an inconvenience you and your ilk proclaim as the basis for a racist political movement...
Reading comprehension doesn't come easy to you. I already said it wasn't racist in post #23. It's an inconvenience to be in the minority. You acknowledge that this country caters to the majority, but you can't admit it's a privilege.
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50 examples of White Privilege

1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.

2. I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.

3. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.

4. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.

5. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.

6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.

7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.

8. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.

9. If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.

10. I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race.

11. I can be casual about whether or not to listen to another person's voice in a group in which s/he is the only member of his/her race.

12. I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of my race represented, into a supermarket and find the staple foods which fit with my cultural traditions, into a hairdresser's shop and find someone who can cut my hair.

13. Whether I use checks, credit cards or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of financial reliability.

14. I can arrange to protect my children most of the time from people who might not like them.

15. I do not have to educate my children to be aware of systemic racism for their own daily physical protection.

16. I can be pretty sure that my children's teachers and employers will tolerate them if they fit school and workplace norms; my chief worries about them do not concern others' attitudes toward their race.

17. I can talk with my mouth full and not have people put this down to my color.

18. I can swear, or dress in second hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty or the illiteracy of my race.

19. I can speak in public to a powerful male group without putting my race on trial.

20. I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.

21. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group.

22. I can remain oblivious of the language and customs of persons of color who constitute the world's majority without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion.

23. I can criticize our government and talk about how much I fear its policies and behavior without being seen as a cultural outsider.

24. I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk to the "person in charge", I will be facing a person of my race.

25. If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven't been singled out because of my race.

26. I can easily buy posters, post-cards, picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys and children's magazines featuring people of my race.

27. I can go home from most meetings of organizations I belong to feeling somewhat tied in, rather than isolated, out-of-place, outnumbered, unheard, held at a distance or feared.

28. I can be pretty sure that an argument with a colleague of another race is more likely to jeopardize her/his chances for advancement than to jeopardize mine.

29. I can be pretty sure that if I argue for the promotion of a person of another race, or a program centering on race, this is not likely to cost me heavily within my present setting, even if my colleagues disagree with me.

30. If I declare there is a racial issue at hand, or there isn't a racial issue at hand, my race will lend me more credibility for either position than a person of color will have.

31. I can choose to ignore developments in minority writing and minority activist programs, or disparage them, or learn from them, but in any case, I can find ways to be more or less protected from negative consequences of any of these choices.

32. My culture gives me little fear about ignoring the perspectives and powers of people of other races.

33. I am not made acutely aware that my shape, bearing or body odor will be taken as a reflection on my race.

34. I can worry about racism without being seen as self-interested or self-seeking.

35. I can take a job with an affirmative action employer without having my co-workers on the job suspect that I got it because of my race.

36. If my day, week or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether it had racial overtones.

37. I can be pretty sure of finding people who would be willing to talk with me and advise me about my next steps, professionally.

38. I can think over many options, social, political, imaginative or professional, without asking whether a person of my race would be accepted or allowed to do what I want to do.

39. I can be late to a meeting without having the lateness reflect on my race.

40. I can choose public accommodation without fearing that people of my race cannot get in or will be mistreated in the places I have chosen.

41. I can be sure that if I need legal or medical help, my race will not work against me.

42. I can arrange my activities so that I will never have to experience feelings of rejection owing to my race.

43. If I have low credibility as a leader I can be sure that my race is not the problem.

44. I can easily find academic courses and institutions which give attention only to people of my race.

45. I can expect figurative language and imagery in all of the arts to testify to experiences of my race.

46. I can chose blemish cover or bandages in "flesh" color and have them more or less match my skin.

47. I can travel alone or with my spouse without expecting embarrassment or hostility in those who deal with us.

48. I have no difficulty finding neighborhoods where people approve of our household.

49. My children are given texts and classes which implicitly support our kind of family unit and do not turn them against my choice of domestic partnership.

50. I will feel welcomed and "normal" in the usual walks of public life, institutional and social.
Absolutely pathetic and NONE of these rise to the level of becoming the basis for demeaning the accomplishments of the majority while creating artificial outcomes for the minority. You still fail to connect the dots of " white privilege" " disparate impact" etc....
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Absolutely pathetic and NONE of these rise to the level of becoming the basis for demeaning the accomplishments of the majority while creating artificial outcomes for the minority. You still fail to connect the dots of " white privilege" " disparate impact" etc....
I never said they were a basis for demeaning anyone or rewarding anyone anything. We're not even discussing disparate impact. That's definitely a form of racism when it exists. White privilege is just the reality of perks and advantages that comes from living in a white society.

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Ive never seen this before. It fits in this thread.

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I never said they were a basis for demeaning anyone or rewarding anyone anything. We're not even discussing disparate impact. That's definitely a form of racism when it exists. White privilege is just the reality of perks and advantages that comes from living in a white society.

You still don't get it. It the left is "progressive" and not "RACIST" like those right wingers, why do they choose to put forth the term "white privilege" instead of "majority privilege". Why do you chose to support a movement which divides based upon race? (and you still don't understand the how and why behind the increase in MSM usage of the terms "white privilege" and " disparate impact")
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I never said they were a basis for demeaning anyone or rewarding anyone anything. We're not even discussing disparate impact. That's definitely a form of racism when it exists. White privilege is just the reality of perks and advantages that comes from living in a white society.

If all across the country, little Antoine is consistently acting out in class and getting suspended while little Johnny is obeying his teachers requests and getting his work in on time there needs to be consequences for little Antoine.

The term "disparate impact" has been hijacked by leftists like you to actually mean different standards for different races of people. To hold little Antoine to different standards than Little Johnny and to make sure that there are as many little Johnny's receiving discipline in school at the same rate that Little Antoine receives discipline despite the fact that little Johnny may not be as prone to acting out with behaviors that warrant school imposed discipline.


Here's an example from the Ivory tower of the attempt to give credence to "disparate impact" in our school system. IF you attended public school like I did where the district was 35%+ black, you'll know that this piece is completely out of touch with the realities of behavioral differences and that there needs to be consequences for behavior.
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A tiny % of the general population who claim European ancestry in the United States.
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It turns out that 12 percent of the population will find themselves in the top 1 percent of the income distribution for at least one year. Whatís more, 39 percent of Americans will spend a year in the top 5 percent of the income distribution, 56 percent will find themselves in the top 10 percent, and a whopping 73 percent will spend a year in the top 20 percent of the income distribution.

Yet while many Americans will experience some level of affluence during their lives, a much smaller percentage of them will do so for an extended period of time. Although 12 percent of the population will experience a year in which they find themselves in the top 1 percent of the income distribution, a mere 0.6 percent will do so in 10 consecutive years.

It is clear that the image of a static 1 and 99 percent is largely incorrect.
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Like Louis CK said, "If you're white and can't admit it's great, you're an a-hole."

You're not a bottom dweller like txtebow, are you? Trying to bring people otherwise content down to his level of misery.
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Like Louis CK said, "If you're white and can't admit it's great, you're an a-hole."

You're not a bottom dweller like txtebow, are you? Trying to bring people otherwise content down to his level of misery.
Misery?? Hardly young grasshoppa'. I enjoy people of all races and backgrounds. If you like sports, working out, enjoy investing, fast cars and pro wrestling I'd get along splendid with you (or even if you don't like those things but you have big T*ts , a tiny waist and big ole A$$ I'd get along splendid with that person too)

But being as you're a self hating eunuch from a state that mispronounces the last syllable of it's name, I have no stomach for your tomfoolery. The term 'White Privilege' is the projection of racism that is becoming readily acceptable to the masses (you're a prime example). The irony of it all that you've been tricked into thinking that the conveniences of being in the majority warrant ridicule by the minority who may not enjoy such conveniences to the point where positions and wealth that were once earned on merit are being leveraged off in the never ending quest to achieve "ultimate diversity" by leftists. You have a rather myopic view my boy.....
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Where's the racial breakdown of the top 1%? I'd love to see that..including the A)# of those in the top 1% by race

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B) percentage of the wealth held by those in the top 1% by race.


And for the record, I despise the fact that CORPORATISM and turning companies public has decimated our middle class through mostly outsourcing for pennies on the dollar all in the name of meeting those corporate expectations to keep that stock price going higher. It's despicable.

But you still didn't prove a thing with the article above.
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Misery?? Hardly young grasshoppa'. I enjoy people of all races and backgrounds. If you like sports, working out, enjoy investing, fast cars and pro wrestling I'd get along splendid with you (or even if you don't like those things but you have big T*ts , a tiny waist and big ole A$$ I'd get along splendid with that person too)

But being as you're a self hating eunuch from a state that mispronounces the last syllable of it's name, I have no stomach for your tomfoolery. The term 'White Privilege' is the projection of racism that is becoming readily acceptable to the masses (you're a prime example). The irony of it all that you've been tricked into thinking that the conveniences of being in the majority warrant ridicule by the minority who may not enjoy such conveniences to the point where positions and wealth that were once earned on merit are being leveraged off in the never ending quest to achieve "ultimate diversity" by leftists. You have a rather myopic view my boy.....
We probably would get along if you talked about sports, investing, and other things. It's just that you've started hundreds of racially obsessed threads and posts in other threads.
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Like Louis CK said, "If you're white and can't admit it's great, you're an a-hole."

You're not a bottom dweller like txtebow, are you? Trying to bring people otherwise content down to his level of misery.
Screw you buddy. If you don't see problems with a list that some self hating blogger wrote, then you are the one with the problem. Just look at 17. Chewing with my mouth open? Give me a ****ing break. Why don't you concern yourself with something worthwhile like ending the senseless violence that is happening everyday in places like Chicago. But I'm sure you can find a way to tie white privilege into that as well.
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Screw you buddy. If you don't see problems with a list that some self hating blogger wrote, then you are the one with the problem. Just look at 17. Chewing with my mouth open? Give me a ****ing break. Why don't you concern yourself with something worthwhile like ending the senseless violence that is happening everyday in places like Chicago. But I'm sure you can find a way to tie white privilege into that as well.
The best thing about Louis CK's point about White Privilege is the best example he could come up with was a science-fiction story about potential time travel.

That's not to say there is no modern day racism. There absolutely is. The sad fact is, as White Americans and Black Americans, we're now feeding it from both sides.
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[Economist John] Schmitt pointed to a series of studies that have in recent years found that when trained sets of black and white testers with identical resumes are sent on interviews, white men with recent criminal histories are far more likely to receive calls back than black men with no criminal record at all. In fact, the centerís study found that even black students who majored in high-demand fields such as engineering fare only slightly better than those who spent their college years earning liberal arts degrees.
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There's definitely some outright racism involved. And it's controversial to talk about this..

But there's also a general perception that hiring someone of a 'protected class' is somewhat riskier because terminating them is believed to be more difficult.

If that fat white dude in Engineering gets fired, nobody asks any questions. If he happens to be black, there's a good chance his manager is having a good long conversation with Legal first.

Another instance where our system needs to be reformed to become more post-racial.
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"I do condemn them for diminishing everything I have personally accomplished, all the hard work I have done in my life, and for ascribing all the fruit I reap not to the seeds I sow but to some invisible patron saint of white maleness who places it out for me before I even arrive."
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There's definitely some outright racism involved. And it's controversial to talk about this..
Some!!!!

The only reason this crap is even taken seriously let alone considered controversial to question is that the New Left have a tight grip on the mainstream media. This "white privilege" crap is one of their neo-Marxist concepts out of Critical Theory.
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Absolutely pathetic and NONE of these rise to the level of becoming the basis for demeaning the accomplishments of the majority while creating artificial outcomes for the minority. You still fail to connect the dots of " white privilege" " disparate impact" etc....
Blacks and other groups self-segregate and not only aren't condemned for it, but aren't considered as practicing racism or racial privilege for it.

Latino and Asian immigrants to this country chose to mostly settle around those of their shared ethnic background. Nobody is pointing guns at their heads for doing this. African immigrants to this country are mostly settling around black Americans, and again, nobody is pointing guns to their heads.

These racial double-standards is why people say that "anti racism" is really racism, and they're right.
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Blacks and other groups self-segregate and not only aren't condemned for it, but aren't considered as practicing racism or racial privilege for it.

Latino and Asian immigrants to this country chose to mostly settle around those of their shared ethnic background. Nobody is pointing guns at their heads for doing this. African immigrants to this country are mostly settling around black Americans, and again, nobody is pointing guns to their heads.

These racial double-standards is why people say that "anti racism" is really racism, and they're right.
Don't know why that is so hard to understand by so many?
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Old 06-08-2014, 12:07 PM   #49
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Blacks and other groups self-segregate and not only aren't condemned for it, but aren't considered as practicing racism or racial privilege for it.

Latino and Asian immigrants to this country chose to mostly settle around those of their shared ethnic background. Nobody is pointing guns at their heads for doing this. African immigrants to this country are mostly settling around black Americans, and again, nobody is pointing guns to their heads.

These racial double-standards is why people say that "anti racism" is really racism, and they're right.
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There are employers n the U.S. today that can openly discriminate against "white people".
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Old 06-08-2014, 12:24 PM   #50
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There are employers n the U.S. today that can openly discriminate against "white people".
They're told to by federal law, not counting certain industries that purposely hire illegal aliens over Americans.
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