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Old 07-14-2014, 08:50 AM   #301
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Just an update. I'm doing weekly injections. I rotate between my glutes and quads so I go a full month before repeating a muscle, and I usually go in a different location too. My last test during my peak was 600! That's right in the range they want me in. Definitely the more frequent, smaller doses are better. I'd like to do subcutaneous, but my endo said we shouldn't mess with a good thing.
does that mean no more disney threads?
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does that mean no more disney threads?
Only because I already posted it. I still think Disney princesses are hot. The biggest difference is my energy and my muscle mass. My quads, chest and arms are really big now. I had to take a bunch of shirts to good will because the sleeves don't fit anymore. The difference in my gains from before and after have been really impressive.
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Only because I already posted it. I still think Disney princesses are hot. The biggest difference is my energy and my muscle mass. My quads, chest and arms are really big now. I had to take a bunch of shirts to good will because the sleeves don't fit anymore. The difference in my gains from before and after have been really impressive.
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Only because I already posted it. I still think Disney princesses are hot. The biggest difference is my energy and my muscle mass. My quads, chest and arms are really big now. I had to take a bunch of shirts to good will because the sleeves don't fit anymore. The difference in my gains from before and after have been really impressive.
should of just torn off the sleeve and take everyone to the gun show.

not too crazy about the disney princesses. they too hoeish and clingy for me. just look at snow white, she getting freaky with 7 dwarfs
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should of just torn off the sleeve and take everyone to the gun show.

not too crazy about the disney princesses. they too hoeish and clingy for me. just look at snow white, she getting freaky with 7 dwarfs
You're out of your mind if you think they're anything but friendzoned into mining diamonds (a girl's best friend) for her.
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You're out of your mind if you think they're anything but friendzoned into mining diamonds (a girl's best friend) for her.
No. That chick was cleaning and making sammiches on command. The Dwarves knew what was up.
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should of just torn off the sleeve and take everyone to the gun show.

not too crazy about the disney princesses. they too hoeish and clingy for me. just look at snow white, she getting freaky with 7 dwarfs
Hey now, isn't there some weirdo on here who is into midgets? Midgets and dwarves need love too you know, Mr Judgy.

That said, Rev is right, those dudes totally friendzoned. If snow was making anyone sammiches, it was Prince Charming. Cinderella on the other hand might've cleaned and made them sammiches, she be trained goodest. (heh, I know how you guys love the abuse of the English language).
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Only because I already posted it. I still think Disney princesses are hot. The biggest difference is my energy and my muscle mass. My quads, chest and arms are really big now. I had to take a bunch of shirts to good will because the sleeves don't fit anymore. The difference in my gains from before and after have been really impressive.

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Tucker Max writes about low-t and how he upped his testerone levels.

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If you’re familiar with my other books, I’m sure the first question was an obvious one, “Why the **** is Tucker Max writing about testosterone?”

A good question. The fact is, I HAD to learn about testosterone, for my own health.

I did something very stupid and reckless that ended up drastically reducing my natural testosterone count. I found no help from the established medical community, nor any other alternative sources, so I ended up learning and testing all the best methods for naturally increasing testosterone myself, and figured out what actually worked. What did I do that was so stupid and reckless?

I shot x-rays across my balls. On purpose.

It was incredibly stupid. And really, really funny (the stories are in the book). And yes, I really did it, I even have it on video (you can see that here).

Predictably, this had a negative effect on my health. I ended up feeling awful, and I figured out it was because radiation has a negative effect on testosterone levels. Mine specifically.
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http://www.thematinggrounds.com/how-...-testosterone/
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Tucker Max writes about low-t and how he upped his testerone levels.



Continue reading:

http://www.thematinggrounds.com/how-...-testosterone/
He's not saying anything new that MANY have not said before.

Lift weights
Cut the sugar
Sleep more
Have sex more

There are still those who have done all that and just can't elevate their T levels. It's hereditary for many men I guess.
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You're out of your mind if you think they're anything but friendzoned into mining diamonds (a girl's best friend) for her.
disagree. you don't whistle while you work if you been friendzoned
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He's not saying anything new that MANY have not said before.

Lift weights
Cut the sugar
Sleep more
Have sex more

There are still those who have done all that and just can't elevate their T levels. It's hereditary for many men I guess.
Don't forget eat more fat, don't drink (alcohol is a T killer), get more sleep, don't masturbate a lot and don't microwave your food in plastics.

But you're definitely correct. There are a lot of causes for low-T, and the environmental and dietary ones need to addressed first because they can make a big difference. There are some men and women who are very sensitive outside hormonal stimulus. One my closest friends is African American and her T level was too and it made it really hard for her to keep her pregnancies to term. Even certain foods would throw off her hormones and now she's extremely careful about the foods she eats and where they are stored.

Then there's people like me who cannot really lower or raise my T level regardless of outside stimuli. My junk is locked in at a certain nanogram that for whatever reason will not budge. So eating or not eating something has no effect. For some it's a brain issue. Others it's physical damage to the testes. Mine is congenital.
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Tucker Max writes about low-t and how he upped his testerone levels.

If you’re familiar with my other books, I’m sure the first question was an obvious one, “Why the **** is Tucker Max writing about testosterone?”

A good question. The fact is, I HAD to learn about testosterone, for my own health.

I did something very stupid and reckless that ended up drastically reducing my natural testosterone count. I found no help from the established medical community, nor any other alternative sources, so I ended up learning and testing all the best methods for naturally increasing testosterone myself, and figured out what actually worked. What did I do that was so stupid and reckless?

I shot x-rays across my balls. On purpose.

It was incredibly stupid. And really, really funny (the stories are in the book). And yes, I really did it, I even have it on video (you can see that here).

Predictably, this had a negative effect on my health. I ended up feeling awful, and I figured out it was because radiation has a negative effect on testosterone levels. Mine specificall


Continue reading:

http://www.thematinggrounds.com/how-...-testosterone/

So TSA agents are bringing rendered sterile - where or where will the next generation of genitalia gropers come from.
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Don't forget eat more fat, don't drink (alcohol is a T killer), get more sleep, don't masturbate a lot and don't microwave your food in plastics.

But you're definitely correct. There are a lot of causes for low-T, and the environmental and dietary ones need to addressed first because they can make a big difference. There are some men and women who are very sensitive outside hormonal stimulus. One my closest friends is African American and her T level was too and it made it really hard for her to keep her pregnancies to term. Even certain foods would throw off her hormones and now she's extremely careful about the foods she eats and where they are stored.

Then there's people like me who cannot really lower or raise my T level regardless of outside stimuli. My junk is locked in at a certain nanogram that for whatever reason will not budge. So eating or not eating something has no effect. For some it's a brain issue. Others it's physical damage to the testes. Mine is congenital.
And that dude also says don't eat fruit? WTF? He says eat like our ancestors did. The hunted and ate meat before they learned agriculture. Well that's true. But that retard must have forgotten that before I ancestors learned how to hunt and eat meat, they were eating fruit. I don't think you can find any sane medical professional or nutritional specialist that would tell you fruit is bad for you, lol. There are too many advantages to eating fruit to even list. I don't think anybody is saying eat 20 oranges a day, hahaha. But cmon, don't eat fruit? Seriously?
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And that dude also says don't eat fruit? WTF? He says eat like our ancestors did. The hunted and ate meat before they learned agriculture. Well that's true. But that retard must have forgotten that before I ancestors learned how to hunt and eat meat, they were eating fruit. I don't think you can find any sane medical professional or nutritional specialist that would tell you fruit is bad for you, lol. There are too many advantages to eating fruit to even list. I don't think anybody is saying eat 20 oranges a day, hahaha. But cmon, don't eat fruit? Seriously?
think Eve would agree with the guy.. forbidden fruit and all...
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And that dude also says don't eat fruit? WTF? He says eat like our ancestors did. The hunted and ate meat before they learned agriculture. Well that's true. But that retard must have forgotten that before I ancestors learned how to hunt and eat meat, they were eating fruit. I don't think you can find any sane medical professional or nutritional specialist that would tell you fruit is bad for you, lol. There are too many advantages to eating fruit to even list. I don't think anybody is saying eat 20 oranges a day, hahaha. But cmon, don't eat fruit? Seriously?

I think we started out eating fruit and vegetables with whatever animal protein we could get. We stood up, our brains grew, and we required more protein as a result...

But yeah. Fruit is the best thing people can eat.

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Just got the labs back from my primary care physician. I went for annual check-up complaining about the belly fat I've accumulated and the fact that despite working out, I'm exhausted quite a bit. In all fairness, I love ice cream and I'm married so I don't try as hard. I'm also in my mid 30's so I figure it might be age. There were other things though, like I have been making small mental errors and had difficulty focusing. I've actually noticed this posting here. I'll leave off punctuation and make spelling errors, leave off articles before words... predict a close SB game - clearly something is physically wrong with my mind.

So my Doc says he wants to check my hormones. Fine. We get checked and I register 114 nano-grams (men are usually between 300-800. I'm sure there will be some OM posters here telling us they have a billion ng.) Because of the way the T-levels bind to proteins, and the less than accurate way they test free testosterone, they just test a total and like to re-test. I take some vitamin D, prescription strength and eat a bunch of zinc filled foods and some fats. I'm trying to lift weights and do some burst fast-twitch cardio. So thinking I helped I get tested again....and it's at 128. All that work and I got 14 freaking NG out of it. I'm still tired all the time.

Just to be thorough he's tested a lot of other things on my second visit. My ferritin is safely low, which apparently rules out hemochromatosis, which runs in my family on my Mom's side. My other hormone levels are very safe as well, Pituitary, growth hormone, etc. My blood pressure and cholesterol are awesome. It's just my freaking testosterone. I am glad I'm not seeing one of those hack aging centers where they just stick you with testosterone if you feel tired, but this is looking to be a real issue. Anyone else have or know of someone who has had any experience in this?
Have you considered lifting more weights and watching your diet?
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And that dude also says don't eat fruit? WTF? He says eat like our ancestors did. The hunted and ate meat before they learned agriculture. Well that's true. But that retard must have forgotten that before I ancestors learned how to hunt and eat meat, they were eating fruit. I don't think you can find any sane medical professional or nutritional specialist that would tell you fruit is bad for you, lol. There are too many advantages to eating fruit to even list. I don't think anybody is saying eat 20 oranges a day, hahaha. But cmon, don't eat fruit? Seriously?
Who said don't eat fruit? What are you talking about? What dude?

EDIT: oh I see. You're referring to that link. I would only avoid fruit if you are already obese and trying to lose weight without exercise. It think that's a stupid idea, but it can be done.
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And that dude also says don't eat fruit? WTF? He says eat like our ancestors did. The hunted and ate meat before they learned agriculture. Well that's true. But that retard must have forgotten that before I ancestors learned how to hunt and eat meat, they were eating fruit. I don't think you can find any sane medical professional or nutritional specialist that would tell you fruit is bad for you, lol. There are too many advantages to eating fruit to even list. I don't think anybody is saying eat 20 oranges a day, hahaha. But cmon, don't eat fruit? Seriously?
A little reading comprehension can do wonders...

He cut out fruits because it has a lot of sugar. He also mentions that you can have a "free" or "cheat" day once a week. So you can have fruits on that day if you want. Also stipulates that "There is quite a bit of tinkering and specialization you can do to craft a plan that might work even better than the minimum, if you so choose." In other words, customize your own plan if you so choose.
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Fresh fruit does not make one gain weight.
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Bull eat enough and you can.
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If your diet is balanced in other food groups too much fruit is not an issue. It's hard to over eat fruit on a consistent basis. It's the processed crap that is making us obese and sick.
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If your diet is balanced in other food groups too much fruit is not an issue. It's hard to over eat fruit on a consistent basis. It's the processed crap that is making us obese and sick.
There's a lot of sugar in fruit. If you eat too much of anything it will make you fat. Fructose will spike your insulin just as much as sucrose. And some fruits are pretty high calorie. Vegetables are the one thing you really can't get fat on. That said, I agree that most people, especially in this country, aren't getting fat on fruit. They're probably eating a lot of empty carbs and too much high fat food.
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