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Old 05-03-2014, 03:38 PM   #426
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SF moved up from 31 to 18, and all it cost was a 3rd to get Reid last year.

I dont see them moving up higher than the 26-28 spot or so if one of Shazier or Fuller are still there.
Jerry Jones probably just did that, because he knew he was going to pick Travis Frederick in the 1st, and wanted to get as low as he could in round 1, while getting the most he could in return. #74 overall is a pretty good pick.

The year prior, NE gave us #126 to move up 6 spots to #25 for Hightower (crappy deal).

Our 3rd rounder (#95) won't be enough to jump the Packers, I don't think. But I'm sure Elway will try.
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Old 05-03-2014, 03:48 PM   #427
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I think they would be happy to draft Moncrief and groom him for next year. Remember, they had him in for a visit. Even if they use a 3rd to trade up, the highest I think they could get would be ~#24 overall.
I guess it depends on how many lower 2014 draft picks they are willing to expend to move up, and maybe even 2015 picks. And of course finding a trade partner. I'm looking forward to see what happens.
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Old 05-03-2014, 04:00 PM   #428
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SF moved up from 31 to 18, and all it cost was a 3rd to get Reid last year.

I dont see them moving up higher than the 26-28 spot or so if one of Shazier or Fuller are still there.
Shazier or Fuller will be there in the 26-28 range, for sure. If we could give up next years 2nd or 3rd with our 31st pick I'd be all about moving up to the 13-15 range and grabbing Gilbert or Dennard.
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Old 05-03-2014, 04:12 PM   #429
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Bears #15 at the latest.
They pick 14 but they have Briggs, and drafted Bostic.

Could happen though.
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Old 05-03-2014, 05:15 PM   #430
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I'm going out on a limb and saying Broncos will not draft mosley regardless if he's there or not. If they trade up it won't be for mosley.

No soft ****ing players on this team.
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Old 05-03-2014, 06:08 PM   #431
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I keep hearing this and its not true.

I can see anywhere from 5-9 rookies making the team, laugh all you want.

1-2 CB's, 1-2 DL, 1 OL, 1 LB, 1 WR, 1 RB, 1 S, maybe even a TE.
I wouldn't laugh at you. If Elway doesn't plan on signing any more vet journeyman after the draft cuts come down he could want that many young rookies on the team.

It just seems to me because we have maybe 1 starter spot on defense open he would want to for grab someone he thinks can compete for that spot. That spells trade up to me more then trade down.

I guess the wildcards would be Malik, Q. Smith and how much the feel they play this yr at DE.
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Old 05-03-2014, 06:09 PM   #432
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Also I could see Denver adding 2 linebackers. 1 to replace Woodyard, and 1 just because last yr even with Woodyard we were thin at linebacker.
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I cannot see us reaching for Moncrief. Value would be terrible.
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I cannot see us reaching for Moncrief. Value would be terrible.
I would roundhouse my tv or break my phone. Whichever device that was unfortunate enough to deliver that news.
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Now if Marqise Lee were to fall to us, different story.
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Now if Marqise Lee were to fall to us, different story.
A lot of people would go nuts over that selection. Lee is falling and USC WR's tend to be piss poor in the pros.
Though Lee would be intriguing with Manning as his mentor.

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Old 05-03-2014, 08:41 PM   #437
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Now if Marqise Lee were to fall to us, different story.
isn't moncrief bigger and faster? lee drops the ball a bunch. i'd take moncrief in the second over lee in the first. maybe.
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A lot of people would go nuts over that selection. Lee is falling and USC WR's tend to be piss poor in the pros.
Though Lee would be intriguing with Manning as his mentor.
I wouldn't go nuts, I'd prefer a number of other guys. I wouldn't be complaining though, I think he absolutely could be a stellar WR in the NFL. Don't see him getting past Carolina though, unless they trade up for another player.
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isn't moncrief bigger and faster? lee drops the ball a bunch. i'd take moncrief in the second over lee in the first. maybe.
Agreed. If it fell that way, I'd prefer Moncrief in the 2nd over Lee in the first. But Moncrief in the first would be a huge reach.
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Agreed. If it fell that way, I'd prefer Moncrief in the 2nd over Lee in the first. But Moncrief in the first would be a huge reach.
yeah, i read that wrong. although, now that i'm thinking about lee in the first, it gets me excited. i really like the idea of just overwhelming defenses next season with speed and athleticism. i want a speed rb or a back that can do more than ball or anderson.
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Lee would do great in our current offense. There would be very exciting potential if we did get him. Maybe Dri Archer in a later round. It would be fun to watch.
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isn't moncrief bigger and faster? lee drops the ball a bunch. i'd take moncrief in the second over lee in the first. maybe.
Lee is a better WR(by a wide margin),Moncrief is a better physical specimen.
One should be a first round pick, the other a 2nd or 3rd.
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I've seen mocks with Lee falling out of the 1st.

He's an interesting prospect, if we went WR in the 1st, i'd rather have Lee over Moncrief.
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I wouldn't laugh at you. If Elway doesn't plan on signing any more vet journeyman after the draft cuts come down he could want that many young rookies on the team.

It just seems to me because we have maybe 1 starter spot on defense open he would want to for grab someone he thinks can compete for that spot. That spells trade up to me more then trade down.

I guess the wildcards would be Malik, Q. Smith and how much the feel they play this yr at DE.
While not a starter spot, CB3 could be the 2nd given the amount of time we run in nickel.

Of course, ILB being the other.

To the bottom, are you saying you dont know if a DE will get much playing time or Malik/Q and how they are.

I think the first.
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I've seen mocks with Lee falling out of the 1st.

He's an interesting prospect, if we went WR in the 1st, i'd rather have Lee over Moncrief.
It is kind of funny to watch because he was initially supposed to be a top 15 pick, then the 3rd WR off the board, now he's been passed up by Cooks and Beckham Jr, in addition you now have potentially Benjamin and Matthews going over him in a lot of mocks.

With the need for play making WR's in this new pass happy NFL I just do not see him falling out of the first.
It makes no sense. Too much talent.
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It is kind of funny to watch because he was initially supposed to be a top 15 pick, then the 3rd WR off the board, now he's been passed up by Cooks and Beckham Jr, in addition you now have potentially Benjamin and Matthews going over him in a lot of mocks.

With the need for play making WR's in this new pass happy NFL I just do not see him falling out of the first.
It makes no sense. Too much talent.
I dont really disagree but in some teams cases, they may want to fill other needs early and get a WR with their next pick.

Like say, Car whose OL is a trainwreck.

OT gets really thin after the top guys, there are still guys like Moncrief, Matthews, Landry, etc in the 2nd-3rd.
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I dont really disagree but in some teams cases, they may want to fill other needs early and get a WR with their next pick.

Like say, Car whose OL is a trainwreck.

OT gets really thin after the top guys, there are still guys like Moncrief, Matthews, Landry, etc in the 2nd-3rd.
Oh I definitely see your point. But for say 6-7 to go before Lee is crazy to me.
Watkins,Evans,OBJR,Cooks,Benjamin,Matthews and Adams or Richardson would have to all go before him for that to happen.
I just do not see that happening. Not when so many teams have a need.
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While not a starter spot, CB3 could be the 2nd given the amount of time we run in nickel.

Of course, ILB being the other.

To the bottom, are you saying you dont know if a DE will get much playing time or Malik/Q and how they are.

I think the first.
Well a few of us have mentioned DE could be a target. But if the team feels good about Malik, Q. Smith, and Wolfe being healthy probably not. But its hard for us to know what the coaches think of players we haven't seem play all that much yet. Malik showed a bit last yr though.
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malik was very good last year, but mostly inside.
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Jimmy Ward. I don't think he makes it out of the first.
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