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Old 04-04-2014, 11:41 PM   #51
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I'm ok with Fox. I don't consider him great, but they could do worse. What is important is having a good coaching staff around and they pretty much do.
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Old 04-05-2014, 12:03 AM   #52
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I'm ok with Fox. I don't consider him great, but they could do worse. What is important is having a good coaching staff around and they pretty much do.

Exactly!
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Old 04-05-2014, 01:01 AM   #53
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Of those that dont like this, I wonder how many people think they would actually hold up in a conversation with john elway about this.
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Old 04-05-2014, 01:40 AM   #54
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Marty has never coached in a SB and has the most wins of any coach not to.
Fox has been to two SB's with two completely different teams.
We all want to win at least 1 SB with Peyton but let's not go crazy here. Fox is a damn good coach and while he may not be a rah rah guy he has helped this team come up from 4-12 to 3 time AFC West champs and a SB berth with a injury riddled team.
Do you honestly think Schottenheimer couldn't have made it to a Super Bowl with Peyton Manning as his QB?
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Old 04-05-2014, 03:01 AM   #55
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Do you honestly think Schottenheimer couldn't have made it to a Super Bowl with Peyton Manning as his QB?
He couldn't with Montana, and he was about the same age as Peyton is now.
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Old 04-05-2014, 08:00 AM   #56
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Player development and half time adjustments typically have been good with Fox.

Overall, this is kind of "meh" for me.
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Old 04-05-2014, 08:07 AM   #57
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Old 04-05-2014, 08:09 AM   #58
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It's not losing the Super Bowl with an injured team that is the problem with Fox. It's that the team was obviously unprepared for the Super Bowl, particularly regarding the crowd noise. That, and the fact that the head coach is a moral victory loser type. Not too shabby.
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Old 04-05-2014, 08:14 AM   #59
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It's not losing the Super Bowl with an injured team that is the problem with Fox. It's that the team was obviously unprepared for the Super Bowl, particularly regarding the crowd noise. That, and the fact that the head coach is a moral victory loser type. Not too shabby.
Agree 100% with this

At the same time I knew no change would happen in Manning era anyways so why even think about it. Whether you love or don't love Fox.
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Old 04-05-2014, 08:26 AM   #60
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Yeah if I were SD, Oak, KC, I'd be in 7th heaven.
The rest of your post, ok...but this is just silly to say.

So, they are happy because they can continue to not win the division?
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Old 04-05-2014, 08:29 AM   #61
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It's not losing the Super Bowl with an injured team that is the problem with Fox. It's that the team was obviously unprepared for the Super Bowl, particularly regarding the crowd noise. That, and the fact that the head coach is a moral victory loser type. Not too shabby.
Maybe we could hire Shanahan just to coach on Sunday?
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Old 04-05-2014, 08:38 AM   #62
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I wish we had the other Super Bowl coach.
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Old 04-05-2014, 08:45 AM   #63
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I'm not real happy about this as that SB loss left a bad taste in my mouth. I'm less enthusiastic about this team than I have been in a long time. I'd like to see the details of this new contract and see if Elway has an out clause after one season, perhaps a buy-out clause. If I was Elway I'd have given him a 2 year contract which is basically a one year contract and if the team craps the bed again in the playoffs, I'd fire him.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:12 AM   #64
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I wish we had the other Super Bowl coach.
I wish we had a healthy team in the SB, something Sea had.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:17 AM   #65
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Its whatever

I was fine with letting Fox go after this year if it meant we kept Gase

But at the same time I get not blowing things up yet with Manning sill under center

Maybe we can get lucky with injuries and if we make it back to the bowl get someone like NO instead of Seattle
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:37 AM   #66
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Over/Under on successful challenges this year is 1.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:41 AM   #67
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Over/Under on successful challenges this year is 1.
to be fair, i'm not sure he understands the rule.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:48 AM   #68
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Marty has never coached in a SB and has the most wins of any coach not to.
Fox has been to two SB's with two completely different teams.
We all want to win at least 1 SB with Peyton but let's not go crazy here. Fox is a damn good coach and while he may not be a rah rah guy he has helped this team come up from 4-12 to 3 time AFC West champs and a SB berth with a injury riddled team.
Marty also called a boneheaded 4th down play that contributed in preventing him from going. Total head scratcher at the time.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:49 AM   #69
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If Elway sees Gase as the up and coming HC and best option to take over after Fox I would assume a way to make that transition has been provided for. If Elway wants Gase no way Foxs new contract closes that door.

Elway to Gase, " Be patient Adam as soon as Peyton retires the HC job is yours"

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Old 04-05-2014, 09:52 AM   #70
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Kind of reminds me of the 49'ers when they had Shanahan as Offensive Coordinator with George Siefert as coach. The 49'ers wanted to keep Shanahan but didn't want to let a successful head coach go (Siefert). The 49'ers lost Shanahan just as the Broncos will probably lose Gase.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:52 AM   #71
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Maybe we could hire Shanahan just to coach on Sunday?
That was the one thing I missed about the Shanahan TC. Situational football was the majority of practise. Fox TC practice is mostly drills.
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:41 AM   #72
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He couldn't with Montana, and he was about the same age as Peyton is now.
Montana was considerably diminished at that point, so the comparison doesn't hold up.
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:46 AM   #73
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Fox probably won't coach a down after Peyton retires. I'd look for a want to spend more time with the family "retirement" as soon as the team needs to be rebuilt in 2016 or 2017.
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Old 04-05-2014, 11:04 AM   #74
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Wow, Bowlen is really throwing around the money this off-season. How can I get in on this?
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Old 04-05-2014, 11:05 AM   #75
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Do you honestly think Schottenheimer couldn't have made it to a Super Bowl with Peyton Manning as his QB?
Schottenheimer couldn't get it done even though he had the "best QB in the AFC West."
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