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Old 04-02-2014, 02:59 PM   #76
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Call me crazy but wasn't ManRam pretty pedestrian at guard?
This staff has been decent at developing players also. The improvement wasn't necessarily due solely to a position change for Manny.
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Old 04-02-2014, 06:16 PM   #77
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This staff has been decent at developing players also. The improvement wasn't necessarily due solely to a position change for Manny.
Manny got better and better at guard as the 2012 season wore on. His play carried over into 2013. He was an above average starter at center for the whole 2013 season.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:50 PM   #78
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Broncos should take the big guard from UCLA Xavier Su Fila and start him this yr. Let Rameriz and Montgomery battle at guard. Let Franklin stay at RT and Clark back up both LT and RT. Whoever doesn't win the center spot backs up the guards.

They have TE, WR, QB, RB sorted out. This would complete the offense, get us more physical, and because of last yrs guys getting injured we would have more depth to start the yr. Rameriz and Clark proved they can at least play decent.
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Sounds like a down grade and a slap in the face to Clark after all that great work he did last year in relief.

Sounds like a pure depth signing that does give them some flexibility in TC to try different line combo's.
I don't know about that, man...
I think Montgomery will start at center for the Broncos this year
He's the closest thing to a true center we've had in a while that you could call solid
Hopefully he'll stay healthier longer than anybody we've gotten since Nalen retired
Broncos have notoriously had good center. We've just haven't drafted well. Mcdaniels?
I think I'm leaving out another good center we've had post-Nalen ??

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Old 04-02-2014, 11:32 PM   #80
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I don't know about that, man...
I think Montgomery will start at center for the Broncos this year
He's the closest thing to a true center we've had in a while that you could call solid
Hopefully he'll stay healthier longer than anybody we've gotten since Nalen retired
Broncos have notoriously had good center. We've just haven't drafted well. Mcdaniels?
I think I'm leaving out another good center we've had post-Nalen ??
Phillip Blake was supposed to be that guy. They are severely over-paying ManRam if they don't expect him to be a starter for the next couple years.
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Old 04-03-2014, 12:54 AM   #81
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Phillip Blake was supposed to be that guy. They are severely over-paying ManRam if they don't expect him to be a starter for the next couple years.
I am assuming he meant that Manny would start at guard.
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Old 04-03-2014, 07:02 AM   #82
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Broncos should take the big guard from UCLA Xavier Su Fila and start him this yr. Let Rameriz and Montgomery battle at guard. Let Franklin stay at RT and Clark back up both LT and RT. Whoever doesn't win the center spot backs up the guards.

They have TE, WR, QB, RB sorted out. This would complete the offense, get us more physical, and because of last yrs guys getting injured we would have more depth to start the yr. Rameriz and Clark proved they can at least play decent.
I think Su Fila's stock is rising. I don't think he'll be there when we pick in the 1st. If he is...they should snatch him up!
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Old 04-03-2014, 07:36 AM   #83
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I'm not sure he's athletic enough to be a 3-down guy, but with that salary he's probably going to be our heady 2-down thumper. With Von and Trev flying around I don't think we'll have to rely on him making any huge plays.

Plus he's white and so he probably has a nonstop motor. Plus I imagine our massive DTs will be able to let him roam pretty free against the run. Savvy signing, Elway. Savvy signing. Keep em coming!
I'm pretty sure he could break off 2k in this system.
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Old 04-03-2014, 07:37 AM   #84
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Elway and company continue to set everything up to go BPA in the draft. I suspect Montgomery was signed to play LG.
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Old 04-03-2014, 07:42 AM   #85
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They are severely over-paying ManRam if they don't expect him to be a starter for the next couple years.
$1.25 million salary this coming season is "serverely over-paying"?
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Old 04-03-2014, 07:46 AM   #86
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Elway and company continue to set everything up to go BPA in the draft. I suspect Montgomery was signed to play LG.
Nah, I think he was signed to play backup at C/G.

I think Big O is going to move to LG (after listening to his comments yesterday), and they'll either start Clark, Justice, or Painter at RT this season.
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$1.25 million salary this coming season is "serverely over-paying"?
If we are paying depth more than vet minimum what will we have to complain about at the end of the season when we have injured players and all our depth sucks?
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Old 04-03-2014, 08:17 AM   #88
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If we are paying depth more than vet minimum what will we have to complain about at the end of the season when we have injured players and all our depth sucks?
People are pissed when guys don't sign incentive-based contracts.
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$1.25 million salary this coming season is "serverely over-paying"?
He's actually due $2.4M this year and next year, for a total of $4.8M. And yes I consider that overpayed if he's only good enough to be a backup.
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This signing enables the Broncos to be able to wait to address OL later in the draft.

1st round is setting up to aim for LB or CB.
This. I have been running a lot of mocks on the simulator sites and 9 out of ten times all the 1st round grade LBs and CBs are gone by 31. The OGs and some Tackles are mostly still available, but go quickly in rd 2.

If this pans out the Broncos are free to move up in rd 1 via trading of picks
( or players ( Franklin?)) and get an impact guy. Like we are planning on moving up to the 15-20 range. It going to cost us some picks though, and we need to keep our 2nd. Not sure who would be a partner.

On the other hand it could just be a depth signing.
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This. I have been running a lot of mocks on the simulator sites and 9 out of ten times all the 1st round grade LBs and CBs are gone by 31. The OGs and some Tackles are mostly still available, but go quickly in rd 2.

If this pans out the Broncos are free to move up in rd 1 via trading of picks
( or players ( Franklin?)) and get an impact guy. Like we are planning on moving up to the 15-20 range. It going to cost us some picks though, and we need to keep our 2nd. Not sure who would be a partner.

On the other hand it could just be a depth signing.
I'm a guy that always wants to move down. I do agree though this might be the year FO ACTUALLY moves up BIG to get player they really want. I would assume Dee Ford Pryor Fuller or Mosley would be likely targets.

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Nah, I think he was signed to play backup at C/G.

I think Big O is going to move to LG (after listening to his comments yesterday), and they'll either start Clark, Justice, or Painter at RT this season.
If Painter or Justice starts at tackle we've got problems. Would be much better off leaving Franklin there and drafting a new left guard or sliding Manny over.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:46 AM   #93
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If Painter or Justice starts at tackle we've got problems. Would be much better off leaving Franklin there and drafting a new left guard or sliding Manny over.
How do you even know that with a certainty?

I'm just saying, they may really like the way that either of them has developed while working with the coaching staff.

Most likely scenario is that Clark plays RT.
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How do you even know that with a certainty?

I'm just saying, they may really like the way that either of them has developed while working with the coaching staff.

Most likely scenario is that Clark plays RT.
Justice has been around a while, I just don't see the production there to warrant him a starting gig, and moving around other pieces of the line when it's fine as it is, IMO. Unless Franklin is just a complete monster at guard and Clark isn't suited to play RT, I don't see Justice having any shot at starting. Painter on the other hand, maybe? I hear good things, but who knows. I'm just in the group that thinks the Super Bowl was an anomaly. With Clady returning, I'm pro drafting a stud left guard early and inserting him in Beadles spot. That would leave Montgomery, Justice, Clark as excellent depth across the board.
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As they look at their most recent arrival as well as review the combinations they will try in the offensive line when their offseason work gets underway, itís clear the Denver Broncos see Will Montgomery as a potential starter at center.
...Montgomery, who has played both guard spots and center in his career, is now expected to get the initial look at center.
http://espn.go.com/blog/denver-bronc...-as-starting-c
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Old 04-03-2014, 11:29 AM   #96
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Nah, I think he was signed to play backup at C/G.

I think Big O is going to move to LG (after listening to his comments yesterday), and they'll either start Clark, Justice, or Painter at RT this season.
That's the problem I have.
We should just have one player to play center, and that's it.
You should be able to have versatility in the interior line with some guards and tackles being interchangeable, my opinion is that the center position is too critical to be switching around. The best centers in the game have always played center...
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I wish we would have signed Sanchez. The melt down would have been epic.
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Makes sense considering the way the contract is structured.
Still do not like the potential shuffle that will ensue but so long as we get better overall.
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If we stay at 31 its unlikely we get a 3 down ILB, and the best safetys, CBs are gone by 20. In most of the draft simulators the Gs are still there, but also
some top 5 Tackles. And with Cladys health being something of a ?, if a Tackle falls to us I wouldn't be surprised if we take him , over the Guards. Usually more versatile, and still able to start right away at guard.

If we are serious about an ILB then we likely have to move up, or hope that we can move down to the top of the 2nd rd and take one of the second tier LBs. Draft is a crapshoot anyway, but we need to get NASTY on the O line if we plan to run better.
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I think the opening day game will be

Clady, Ramerize, Montgomery, The Big V, O Franklin
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