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Old 03-20-2014, 05:07 PM   #26
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Hawks will be very tough until Wilson demands 20 million a yr. Think about how much cap room we would have with Manning making about 6-7 mil a yr instead of 18.
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Old 03-20-2014, 05:17 PM   #27
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Hawks will be very tough until Wilson demands 20 million a yr. Think about how much cap room we would have with Manning making about 6-7 mil a yr instead of 18.
I love Wilson, but I do not foresee him getting 20 mil a year. Then again, Jerry Jones paid Romo all that damn money so anything is possible.
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:15 PM   #28
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There were 13 teams (6 playoff) that tried to call ware and were interested. That many for Allen? Ware would've been snatched up real quick if it wasn't broncos.
Good call. I think you can learn a lot by looking at how many teams are after a guy, and which ones. Remember how many teams were after Manning's jock? More than anything that gave me confidence that he was going to be just fine. NFL teams aren't stupid. Well, except for the Raiders.
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:18 PM   #29
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I love Wilson, but I do not foresee him getting 20 mil a year. Then again, Jerry Jones paid Romo all that damn money so anything is possible.
He has to get more than Flacco got, doesn't he? I know he will be watching the Kaepernick negotiations very closely. He'll expect to equal or better Kaep's deal (rumored to be somewhere in the $17-18M range). Wilson has already won a ring, with more possibly on the way.
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:24 PM   #30
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I don't see the seahawks going back to the superbowl their whole thing was a team with a bunch of players nobody wanted so they won it all what's the motivation this year?
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With Richard Sherman's obsession with telling everyone he is the best CB in football one would image he will want to be the highest paid to validate this.

So he will want 13 million next year. He is getting 1.4 this year.

Earl Thomas will want 7-8 Million next year.

Wilson is not a free agent until 2016 but can't be happy playing for $816,000 this year.

So 41 million for these three?
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I don't see the seahawks going back to the superbowl their whole thing was a team with a bunch of players nobody wanted so they won it all what's the motivation this year?
I hope your right about this. But if we make it back to the SB next year, I personally hope it's not them across the field from us.
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:47 PM   #33
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With Richard Sherman's obsession with telling everyone he is the best CB in football one would image he will want to be the highest paid to validate this.

So he will want 13 million next year. He is getting 1.4 this year.

Earl Thomas will want 7-8 Million next year.

Wilson is not a free agent until 2016 but can't be happy playing for $816,000 this year.

So 41 million for these three?
That's really the biggest reason they're where they're at atm. This has been their window and they've jumped on it. We're a bit similar with ours but not to their extent because of the salary a QB commands. Next year a lot of core players are up for FA.
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:56 PM   #34
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That's the other reason to make a play. The Seahawks really haven't lost anything from their Championship team and they still have a draft coming.

Browner was basically gone all year. Their only real losses were Red Bryant, Chris Clemens and Golden Tate. None of which are going to be game breaking, especially if they get Allen.

Getting Allen and dumping our TE's makes us stronger and hurts a chief rival for the Super Bowl. O is not our problem. We can just draft depth. Don't forget we have Virgil Green on this team too.
They lost some good players, Thurmond, Browner, Tate, Clemons, Bryant were all big contributors for them.

Not to mention, they have to have salary cap saved up for Thomas, Sherman and Wilson. I could definitely see Marshawn Lynch possibly getting released after this season if they believe in Turbin/Cristine Michael enough. Add in possibly letting Harvin go if he can't stay healthy, then yeah.
Not to mention Chancellor needing a pay raise, Bobby Wagner. Yeah.

They aren't going to be in salary cap hell, just they will have to let a couple of those guys go.
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Meh, I think we were better than Seattle going in to the SB and have improved much more than they have. The game itself was just Jurassic Park from the coin toss.

I think last year was Seattle's dream season and they don't reach the Super Bowl again for a long time. Just like I was this year, I'd still be more worried about teams like the Chargers, Patriots, and Niners.

"I think we we were better than Seattle going into the Super Bowl."
not only were they not better it wasn't even close. In all fairness the Broncos upgraded a lot but I'm not sure if it was enough. They have a hall of fame quarterback but his skills are diminishing fast it will be interesting to see what he brings this year.
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He has to get more than Flacco got, doesn't he? I know he will be watching the Kaepernick negotiations very closely. He'll expect to equal or better Kaep's deal (rumored to be somewhere in the $17-18M range). Wilson has already won a ring, with more possibly on the way.
17-19 is what Kaep wants. I do not see how in the hell he will get it from the Niners.
13-16 is likely what he will get. Wilson to me is a better QB than Flacco for sure. But I don't know that he will get the type of contract that will kill the Hawks cap like 20 mil.
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:02 PM   #37
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DAMN! How many pass rushers does Seattle have?!?
They've actually lost 3 integral players of that line from last year in Bryant, McDonald and Clemons along with 13 sacks. Allen would be their first incoming DL player. Bennett and Avril technically played from the bench last year behind Bryant and Clemons. All played an equal amount of snaps between 450-600 or so.
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"I think we we were better than Seattle going into the Super Bowl."
not only were they not better it wasn't even close. In all fairness the Broncos upgraded a lot but I'm not sure if it was enough. They have a hall of fame quarterback but his skills are diminishing fast it will be interesting to see what he brings this year.
If we were healthy the game would've been different, not saying we would have won. Manning covered up some ****ty offensive line play. 55 touchdowns, not sure how his skills are diminishing? Not sure Clady being healthy is enough to fix our line?
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If we were healthy the game would've been different, not saying we would have won. Manning covered up some ****ty offensive line play. 55 touchdowns, not sure how his skills are diminishing? Not sure Clady being healthy is enough to fix our line?
Him, and that guard from Ucla who idk how the **** to say his name, hopefully will. I hope we get him if Mosley is off the board. Not sure our line really needs too much fixing, did fine last year except for the Super Bowl.
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I think Manning getting the ball out in 2 seconds made the line look fine all year.
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I think Manning getting the ball out in 2 seconds made the line look fine all year.
Yes. How we did against the #1 defense should be our benchmark. And, we did VERY poorly. Nobody tested that line more than Seattle...
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Yes. How we did against the #1 defense should be our benchmark. And, we did VERY poorly. Nobody tested that line more than Seattle...
Yup, the OL got exposed by Seattle and was perhaps the biggest reason we lost. Other than maybe pass rush I've been saying since before FA started that it was the biggest area on the team that needed to be addressed. I'm a little concerned that they haven't done anything. A healthy Clady helps, of course.
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If we were healthy the game would've been different, not saying we would have won. Manning covered up some ****ty offensive line play. 55 touchdowns, not sure how his skills are diminishing? Not sure Clady being healthy is enough to fix our line?
I honestly don't think it would have mattered. Denver was still more talented.

I think the Seahawks were just playing at a totally different intensity.

Just like in the preseason and we mocked Seattle for it.
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Yup, the OL got exposed by Seattle and was perhaps the biggest reason we lost. Other than maybe pass rush I've been saying since before FA started that it was the biggest area on the team that needed to be addressed. I'm a little concerned that they haven't done anything. A healthy Clady helps, of course.
A healthy Clady and hopefully a new bruiser at guard who is better or just as good as beadles. That's all that's changing. Ramirez, Vasquez and Franklin aren't losing their spots, unless they do end up moving franklin to left guard and Clark to tackle. I personally, don't want that to happen, though.
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I honestly don't think it would have mattered. Denver was still more talented.

I think the Seahawks were just playing at a totally different intensity.

Just like in the preseason and we mocked Seattle for it.
Yep, had Denver come out and put together a decent drive I think the whole game is different. That first snap just poured gas on the emotional energy and they rode it all game.
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Yup, the OL got exposed by Seattle and was perhaps the biggest reason we lost. Other than maybe pass rush I've been saying since before FA started that it was the biggest area on the team that needed to be addressed. I'm a little concerned that they haven't done anything. A healthy Clady helps, of course.
Losing Beadles helps. If we can snag a OG early in the draft we will be fine.
We need either a mauler at C or OG. I think we will get at least one in the draft.
Clady being back will help as well and if he goes down again(knock on wood) then we know Clark is good enough to help bridge the gap.
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I honestly don't think it would have mattered. Denver was still more talented.

I think the Seahawks were just playing at a totally different intensity.

Just like in the preseason and we mocked Seattle for it.
I totally agree. Just read Mincey's statement...they were lackadaisical!

I have tremendous respect for Champ....but soft spoken leaders like Champ....and smiley faced leaders like Woodyard...don't cut the mustard.

We need some mean/nasty leadership. How I wish we would have had Brian Dawkins or Al Wilson on last year's squad!

And, I still think we need that guy in the middle! We need a defensive captain who gets people up for the games...ala Rey Lewis!
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With Richard Sherman's obsession with telling everyone he is the best CB in football one would image he will want to be the highest paid to validate this.

So he will want 13 million next year. He is getting 1.4 this year.

Earl Thomas will want 7-8 Million next year.

Wilson is not a free agent until 2016 but can't be happy playing for $816,000 this year.

So 41 million for these three?
Earl Thomas deserves to be the highest paid safety in the league.
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Earl Thomas deserves to be the highest paid safety in the league.
Yeah, I forgot Byrd got 9 million. Thomas should be looking at 10 million.
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I honestly don't think Allen gives you anything more then what Phillips gave us last year. Average run stopper, still slightly better then average rusher. I would take Phillips at 1M per year over Allen at 6M per year. I of course would rather have who we got, Ware. I think we did overpay just a tad for Ware but not really. The way we structured those, these guys get paid early for performance. If it's 2 or 3 years from now and they are cooked, we get out clean.
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