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Old 03-17-2014, 10:51 AM   #26
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I thought Clady was done after he tore his patellar tendon. The guy has proven to recover from tough injuries so I will remain cautiously optimistic.
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Old 03-17-2014, 10:57 AM   #27
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I would. Annoying last name to type.
Then don't type in his last name. Call him X. OG and MLB might be the only positions that a Rookie could come in and start right away. Picking up the best Guard in the draft at the end of round 1 would be a good pick imo.
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:22 AM   #28
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He is a good prospect though.
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Well it's been said in the past that Clady also has those special recovery qualities. And I believe Miller's ACL wasn't all that serious. Not entirely sure but I thought I saw something that said Miller's injury was the type that wasn't super serious and wouldn't require a lengthy recovery period.
I know that Chris Harris's ACL injury was only a "partial tear," I haven't heard about Von's. Harris should be back for Training Camp is what I heard.

As for Clady... I think if the front office wasn't confident in his progress and successful return, I don't think they would have let Beadles go so easily. No Clady means we don't have the luxury of shuffling around the Oline like we have discussed. I could be wrong, but that's my thought process.
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As for Clady... I think if the front office wasn't confident in his progress and successful return, I don't think they would have let Beadles go so easily. No Clady means we don't have the luxury of shuffling around the Oline like we have discussed. I could be wrong, but that's my thought process.
Not only that, but one would think that they would have committed some major resourced to the OL in FA.
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Not only that, but one would think that they would have committed some major resourced to the OL in FA.
Great point!
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Old 03-17-2014, 04:03 PM   #32
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The Broncos have already said they want to run the ball better next season and are already working through plans to make that happen.
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Whatever that means...
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Old 03-17-2014, 05:10 PM   #33
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why is everyone convinced Clady is back? I'd say it's more like a 50/50 shot he's back and still be a top 5 LT.
Not absolutely sure he will be back to what he was. However, I have to assume the FO thinks he will be or I would think the FA picks would be different.

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Old 03-17-2014, 05:11 PM   #34
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Old 03-17-2014, 05:24 PM   #35
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That article, especially what Elway should have learned in 97/98, is right on. Superior OL, add TD, add opportunistic defense who could pressure the QB and an offensive philosophy that took advantage of Johns skills equaled success. Much, much better than the Reeves teams of the 80s.
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:35 AM   #36
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2. Willie Colon
3. Brian Waters

Wharton delivered a really solid 2013 season for the Panthers, yet his age (33 in May) and injury history (missed all of 2012 with a knee issue) may be holding him back. Needy teams could fare worse. The scouting report on Colon is nearly the same: He’ll be 31 in April and is coming off a torn biceps suffered in Week 17. Add that injury to 15 missed games in 2011 and suitors will be wary. Waters was en route to a terrific 2013 season as a 36-year-old. He then tore his triceps and lost nine games while on injured reserve, a setback that may limit him to a Dallas-or-bust situation this offseason.
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Well it's been said in the past that Clady also has those special recovery qualities. And I believe Miller's ACL wasn't all that serious. Not entirely sure but I thought I saw something that said Miller's injury was the type that wasn't super serious and wouldn't require a lengthy recovery period.
Miller and Harris are both still young but Clady is getting to the point where special recovery qualities start to fade. Lisfranc is pretty concerning for a guy who has to plant on every single play and repair of these injuries hasn't advanced the way that ACL's have. Just have to hope that he can return to form and that we can acquire a quality backup veteran guard and center.
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:06 AM   #38
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...Franklin might move inside and Chris Clark, who replaced injured all-pro Ryan Clady at left tackle last season, might swing over to right tackle, Franklin's usual position.

Or they might not. The team is undecided. A dark-horse possibility at left guard: Ben Garland. The former Air Force defensive tackle has been a member of Denver's practice squad the past two years.

"He's got that mentality you want," Elway said of Garland. "He's tough, he's strong and he's smart. Obviously, he's very inexperienced, but he's got a chance to come in and compete."
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:18 AM   #39
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Schlereth seems to think that RG is the best position for Franklin. It seemed like Franklin was a great run blocker, but did get beat by quick edge rushers in pass protection. I think Clark is a little better at run blocking than he is at pass blocking (though he's generally solid at both). Franklin has experience at G and Clark has experience at RT, so that's encouraging. It sounds like we have a few different options to work with, so I'm pretty hopeful we'll have a solid O-line next season.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:24 AM   #40
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Garland, lol.

No John, you draft one of the top 5 G's in the draft and call it a day sir.
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Garland, lol.

No John, you draft one of the top 5 G's in the draft and call it a day sir.
Agreed. Garland is a converted DT. I don't mind us giving him a shot in training camp, but I hope we have a couple of back-up plans. I would think we can draft a G in the 2nd or 3rd round. Gabe Jackson out of MS State might be available. He's a fantastic run blocker.
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:27 AM   #42
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I think that Clady coming back 100% is a poor bet. Maybe 80%, but there is also the possibility that he cannot get back to being able to play LT at all, although healthy enough to do normal activities without problems. IMO, Clady has never been that great at run blocking, either. All pro at protecting QB, but only average on run plays. ( He does get downfield on passes well).

And Run blocking has got to improve if we want to win next year.

With Beadles, Kuper, Walton gone and the way the entire line got pushed around in the SB, our O-line is a major point to improve right now. It all starts in the trenches , right? And depth is questionable. They thought that Kuper and Walton were going to be fine last year and that turned very sour, quickly. We lucked out with Clark and ManRam being able to fill nicely.

Obviously the Broncos want to go BPA and we have a few positions of need ( MLB, CB, OL, WR) but I wouldn't be surprised if two of our top 4 picks are OL, and at least one is a 1 or 2. It all depends on who is available when we pick and if the guy can start right away. There are no sure things in the draft also.
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:42 AM   #43
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No John, you draft one of the top 5 G's in the draft and call it a day sir.
This, I kinda chuckled out loud.
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The main issue left? Guard. Beadles bolted for Jacksonville and John Elway has yet to address that spot on the field (RT Orlando Franklin also has some terrible moments, including in the Super Bowl). Could a problematic O-line be Denver’s undoing down the line?
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Old 03-27-2014, 12:17 PM   #45
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Put Gabe Jackson on this line and you take it to another level.
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Drafting a guard seems obvious, at least in the top 3 rounds, but don't expect Elway to come out and let the world know, "hey, we're drafting a guard with out top pick or with our 2nd rounder."
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This draft is loaded with OL. Crossing my fingers we don't blow a second rounder from some dude who played 6 years at Valley Forge Technical College. I mean come on. No more nickel and diming it in the draft. Gabe jacksom or someone who you can look at and immediately get the idea that hed punch a dude in the head if he had to. No nonsense... it is a top 2 round need amd if john elway cant find a good ol in this draft he better check out whats been going on
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:46 PM   #48
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Round 2 for OL.

Round 1 has got to be LB or bust.

Trade up in round 3 for a CB.
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Round 2 for OL.

Round 1 has got to be LB or bust.

Trade up in round 3 for a CB.
too many good players to narrow it to 1 position each round. if Mosley or Shazier aren't there I don't really see the point of forcing LB in the 1st. that approach is just asking for a letdown of a draft imo
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Old 03-28-2014, 06:12 AM   #50
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too many good players to narrow it to 1 position each round. if Mosley or Shazier aren't there I don't really see the point of forcing LB in the 1st. that approach is just asking for a letdown of a draft imo
Exactly. They're not going to draft by need in the first round.
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