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Old 03-17-2014, 10:26 AM   #76
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well this pick is pretty easy to predict if Jags dont trade it, but if anyone trades up it'll be for the same player IMO
You would think.... buuuuuuuut this is the OM Draft where magic happens!
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Old 03-17-2014, 10:32 AM   #77
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Req is on the clock. Wonder what he will do...2 of his favorite prospects are off the board.
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Clowney is a real puzzle. Built like Hercules. Acts like a teenager. Who knows what will happen? Don't see any other choice for the Jags but to roll the dice on him. The physical talent demands it.
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Who wants to trade up!?
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Old 03-17-2014, 10:40 AM   #80
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He is a worst case Peppers IMO...

YearAgeTmPosNo.GGSSkIntYdsTDLngPDFFFmbFRYdsTDTklAstSftyAV
200222CARLDE90121212.01210216500002978
200323CARLDE9016167.000003300003978
2004*+24CARLDE90161611.021431979401601531215
2005*25CARLDE90161610.500007201100381213
2006*+26CARLDE90161613.0000063020049917
200727CARLDE9014142.510005302003197
2008*28CARRDE90161614.50000550000401113
2009*29CARRDE90161410.5213113550111036515
2010*+30CHIRDE9016168.02101930000431118
2011*31CHIDE90161611.0000044020033412
2012*32CHIRDE90161611.5000021046032718
201333CHIRDE/RE9016167.5114014320142131157
Career186184119.0919229764400141292454109151
8 yrsCAR12212081.061772974630078113157296
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I just really never noticed Peppers being that good conistently, but always stumbled into double digit sacks.

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Old 03-17-2014, 10:44 AM   #81
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I am seriously thinking about trading up... but not for the draft value chart. No way i want to give up my 2nd rounder....
The value chart is outdated badly. I also think that strong drafts, like this one, make the value of earlier selections worth considerably less, whereas in a weak draft they would maintain or potentially increase in value.

Last year is really telling for me with the Oakland/Miami trade. A 2nd round pick to move up from out of the Top 10 (12th) to #3 overall. that was 600+ points less than the value chart suggests.

If I'm Atlanta, I'm offering an early 3rd to trade from 6 to 3. If I'm Jacksonville, I'm taking it unless I want a specific player that won't fall to 6. In that case, I'm either staying put and taking my guy or I'm asking for a king's ransom to justify me losing him.
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Old 03-17-2014, 10:52 AM   #82
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If you want to trade up make an offer quick or I will pick. I am not going to command a ransom.
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Old 03-17-2014, 10:53 AM   #83
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Req is on the clock. Wonder what he will do...2 of his favorite prospects are off the board.
Really thought they'd be able to land Watkins and go after a QB later. This is a tough pick if they don't trade back....unless they love Bortles or Bridgewater, than it's perfect.

I think with this draft being so deep, people won't be trading up as much, both in our mock and the RL thing. So, this seems pretty realistic so far.
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I have never seen Bortles throw one pass so I can assure you I don't even have him on my board. I am not gonna lie. Didn't even know he existed. A name like that doesn't sound good either. He is gonna bust.
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Bortles? *chortles*
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Really thought they'd be able to land Watkins and go after a QB later. This is a tough pick if they don't trade back....unless they love Bortles or Bridgewater, than it's perfect.

I think with this draft being so deep, people won't be trading up as much, both in our mock and the RL thing. So, this seems pretty realistic so far.
I see another surprise pick here with Cleveland.
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All right, no takers. Gonna post my selection in about 10-15 minutes.
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Browns seem pretty happy with Hoyer, not sure about Bridgewater but I guess competition can't hurt.
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Browns seem pretty happy with Hoyer, not sure about Bridgewater but I guess competition can't hurt.
The only three guys I'd of considered instead of him were all taken before me. I didn't have a choice. Their new GM wants a QB. There is no way they are going into 2014 with Hoyer as their long-term guy.
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Rugby gets a good pick at #5. . .

Ro messed this thing up!
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Is the consensus that Robinson is > Matthews?

I dont know why, maybe its the name but I think Matthews is the better prospect.

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The only three guys I'd of considered instead of him were all taken before me. I didn't have a choice. Their new GM wants a QB. There is no way they are going into 2014 with Hoyer as their long-term guy.
Yeah, did you see Bridgewaters pro day reports? Not good.
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Is the consensus that Robinson is > Matthews?

I dont know why, maybe its the name but I think Matthews is the better prospect.
Matthews is more NFL ready than Robinson but Robinson is a physical freak of nature with all world potential. Robinson was a close #2 behind Mack on my list. They both will be very good players, I just like Robinsons potential more than Matthews.
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Yeah, did you see Bridgewaters pro day reports? Not good.
JaMarcus Russell lit up his Pro Day and where is that turd at?

IM GOING WITH TEDDY BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER BEING A LOSING FRANCHSE WATER.

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The only three guys I'd of considered instead of him were all taken before me. I didn't have a choice. Their new GM wants a QB. There is no way they are going into 2014 with Hoyer as their long-term guy.
He is the best QB in this draft, regardless of his pro day I think as well... but he still is not far ahead of the 2nd tier...
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I would have traded up for Robinson had the Ravens not resigned Monroe. To me, he's a fantastic prospect.
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The more I think of the QB prospects of this draft the more I am leaning towards Manziel if I am one of those QB hungry top teams. Go big or go home style.
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Rugby gets a good pick at #5. . .

Ro messed this thing up!
BWAHAHAHA!
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I told you. OM posters totdally devalue QB's or is it the real world overvalues them The thing is any mocker on here wont get fired if he cant find a guy to take his team forward this year. In truth the new guy in Houston will, Cleveland definitely and likely Allen's last year in Oakland. None of them are getting 6 wins with their current powderpuff slingers so they absolutely will draft Quarterbacks this year.
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BWAHAHAHA!
I almost thought about trading up with you, but the WR depth is so good -- but you got a heckuva player.
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