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Old 03-14-2014, 04:07 AM   #101
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Now there are a few people who are beginning to raise the prospect that it may never be found; A modern day Amelia Earhart story.
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Old 03-14-2014, 06:08 AM   #102
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From what I've read and heard so far, my best guess would be a fouled-up hijacking similar to the 1996 "Zulu" incident:

http://seanmunger.com/2013/11/23/zul...es-flight-961/

But who knows? The known "facts" seem to change every few hours.
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Old 03-14-2014, 06:27 AM   #103
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Blame it on D.B. Cooper.
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Old 03-14-2014, 06:43 AM   #104
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Perhaps there was a catastrophic systems failure, like they had on Payne Stewart's plane? Lost pressure and then the oxygen system failed. Under oxygen deprivation the pilot turned off the transponder and started to turn the plane around, and then passed out, and the plane continued to fly on that heading until it ran out of fuel.
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Old 03-14-2014, 06:51 AM   #105
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China reporting "seismic event" within flight area

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mis...entists-n52516
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Old 03-14-2014, 09:04 AM   #106
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Another indication of foul play:

"Analysis of the Malaysia data suggests the plane, with 239 people on board, diverted from its intended northeast route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing and flew west instead, using airline flight corridors normally employed for routes to the Middle East and Europe, said sources familiar with investigations into the Boeing 777's disappearance.

Two sources said an unidentified aircraft that investigators believe was Flight MH370 was following a route between navigational waypoints when it was last plotted on military radar off the country's northwest coast.

This indicates that it was either being flown by the pilots or someone with knowledge of those waypoints, the sources said."


Full story at http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...,1501655.story

I think the idea is that if the pilots passed out and the plane just kept going, or if the plane was put on autopilot, the odds against it taking a route that just happened to correspond to navigational waypoints are pretty steep.
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Old 03-14-2014, 09:55 AM   #107
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Another indication of foul play:

"Analysis of the Malaysia data suggests the plane, with 239 people on board, diverted from its intended northeast route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing and flew west instead, using airline flight corridors normally employed for routes to the Middle East and Europe, said sources familiar with investigations into the Boeing 777's disappearance.

Two sources said an unidentified aircraft that investigators believe was Flight MH370 was following a route between navigational waypoints when it was last plotted on military radar off the country's northwest coast.

This indicates that it was either being flown by the pilots or someone with knowledge of those waypoints, the sources said."



Full story at http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...,1501655.story

I think the idea is that if the pilots passed out and the plane just kept going, or if the plane was put on autopilot, the odds against it taking a route that just happened to correspond to navigational waypoints are pretty steep.

Unless somebody put it on autopilot. Pure speculation on my part.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:10 AM   #108
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If they don't find out soon our media will get bored and you will never hear another thing about it.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:25 AM   #109
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Unless somebody put it on autopilot. Pure speculation on my part.
If I understand the issue, this tends to undercut the autopilot theory, because (a) autopilots don't use the "waypoints," and (b) the plane would have to have been flown for a significant period of time before the autopilot was engaged in order to line it up between the waypoints.

Supposedly, one of the reasons we haven't received more info about this is because the people in charge of the data are legally obligated to give the info to the investigating authorities before leaking it to the public.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:30 AM   #110
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If they don't find out soon our media will get bored and you will never hear another thing about it.
For most of us, yes. For others, not so much, and I think you could make a good guess as to who might fall into that second category.
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Old 03-14-2014, 01:21 PM   #111
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Act of piracy?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_4964895.html
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Old 03-14-2014, 02:09 PM   #112
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You think the rest of the people on here care about those people? It's not that people died is the story.... The story is that a huge passenger lane disappeared. Between all the groups and agencies looking for it... no one has found it yet. It's very interesting.
For some I guess...
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Old 03-14-2014, 02:30 PM   #113
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I'd be looking hard at the passenger manifest for clues as to what happened. Who would be that important to someone yet not using a private plane.
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Old 03-14-2014, 06:57 PM   #114
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I'd be looking hard at the passenger manifest for clues as to what happened. Who would be that important to someone yet not using a private plane.
See my previous posts in this thread.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:13 PM   #115
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Confirmed hyjacking just reported
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:18 PM   #116
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KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) Investigators have concluded that one or more people with significant flying experience hijacked the missing Malaysia Airlines jet, switched off communication devices and steered it off-course, a Malaysian government official involved in the investigation said Saturday.

No motive has been established and no demands have been made known, and it is not yet clear where the plane was taken, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the media. The official said that hijacking was no longer a theory.


"It is conclusive," he said.

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Old 03-15-2014, 01:06 AM   #117
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Plane was airborne for up to 7 hours, possibly going to Kazakhstan or one of the stan countries.
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Old 03-15-2014, 02:28 AM   #118
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So has anyone ever gave a definitive reason why the Edmund Fitzgerald went down? or what happened to flight 19 in the 'ol Bermuda triangle? We think we are so smart with our satellites and phones and crap.
After 9-11 its as simple as flipping a toggle switch to turn off the transponder? That is Insane.
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Edmund Fitzgrald was loaded heavy and took the route best for the current weather. The weather changed and they went into heavy waves. They think the hatches on the deck of the boat may have came loose and the water went into the hold with the ore they were hauling. The ship became to heavy and sank.

It's been found on the lake bottom so for sure they know it sank.
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Plane was airborne for up to 7 hours, possibly going to Kazakhstan or one of the stan countries.
I'm trying to figure out why the two most likely search corridors are in such different directions (NW or S/SW). Only thing I can come up with is that the data analysts somehow managed to exclude the area in-between.

I don't think there's a damned thing but water in the S/SW direction, unless they turned again and curled back to Malaysia or Australia, so yeah, the stan countries are looking a little more likely now.

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So has anyone ever gave a definitive reason why the Edmund Fitzgerald went down? or what happened to flight 19 in the 'ol Bermuda triangle? We think we are so smart with our satellites and phones and crap.
After 9-11 its as simple as flipping a toggle switch to turn off the transponder? That is Insane.
yes, the Edmund Fitzgerald was found a long time ago and they figured out why it sank. It got into some heavy swells, and the crew did not lock down a front hatch (at the front of the ship) and they EF started filling with water. Due to the storm and the waves and the heavy load it was carrying (Iron ore I believe) it broke in half and sank very quickly. But regardless, it's silly to compare the Edmund Fitzgerald to a flying computer that is networked into satellites and has transponders and black boxes and all the latest and greatest technology. There is simply no excuse for this kind of disappearance.
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Old 03-15-2014, 06:39 AM   #122
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Whoever pulled this off, it was certainly well planned...

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Old 03-15-2014, 09:57 AM   #124
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Okay, I know you have all been dying for my theory.

I can't remember where I saw the report yesterday, but it said that they believe the plane ascended to 45,000 feet, shortly after turning off the transponder, and changing courses. So, you have someone nefariously piloting the plane. He wants the plane - the people in the plane are a nuisance, for whatever his plan is. So, he flies to 45K feet, decompresses the cabin (that's possible, right?), and kills them all. Then, he drops down to a more reasonable altitude, and continues on to wherever it's in his plan to go. Why would they need a plane? Well, this is where the imagination can run a little wild. What if they wanted a plane to pack it with explosives, to fly into something? What if they've got nuclear material somewhere, but they don't have the missile to fly it? Wouldn't a 777 make a pretty good missile? Like I said, my imagination is going, a little.

Here's my question. Would that scenario on depressurizing the plane work, as long as the pilot had a supply of oxygen?
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Old 03-15-2014, 10:18 AM   #125
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I believe oxygen masks deploy automatically at a certain cabin pressure
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