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Old 03-29-2014, 11:15 AM   #101
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This is just sad. Legally it is brilliant, but sad.
Spouse cannot be compelled to testify against the other?
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Old 03-29-2014, 11:18 AM   #102
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Old 03-29-2014, 11:20 AM   #103
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Anyone want to make a wager on weather or not the future Mrs Ray Rice grew up with a responsible father? Or Ray Rice for that matter?
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Old 03-29-2014, 12:18 PM   #104
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Anyone want to make a wager on weather or not the future Mrs Ray Rice grew up with a responsible father? Or Ray Rice for that matter?
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Old 03-29-2014, 01:29 PM   #105
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Anyone want to make a wager on weather or not the future Mrs Ray Rice grew up with a responsible father? Or Ray Rice for that matter?
What's worse? Growing up with an abusive father both physically and mentally or no father in the home.

just curious what your take is.
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Old 03-29-2014, 01:55 PM   #106
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What's worse? Growing up with an abusive father both physically and mentally or no father in the home.

just curious what your take is.
Abusive parents by a million miles. I know several people who grew up in single parent households, all of them are in long term committed relationships, have good education and health. I know a few who have grown up in abusive households and that is a whole lot bleaker.
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"Bills linebacker Brandon Spikes is speaking out strongly against Ravens running back Ray Rice, who was indicted this week for aggravated assault.

Reacting to the news that Rice has just married the woman he is accused of assaulting, Spikes went off on Rice on Twitter.

“That’s him trying to save his image duh,” Spikes wrote of Rice’s wedding.

Spikes said he got angry when he saw the surveillance video that appears to show Rice dragging his unconscious wife out of an elevator, video that was taken, authorities say, moments after Rice punched her and knocked her out.

“I don’t see how anyone can respect him. Put your hands on a woman. The woman that had ur child,” Spikes wrote. “Someone should choke him out. See how he likes it.”

Spikes also tweeted a picture of himself with his mother and wrote, “I was raised by this beautiful woman. She would roll over and die if i put my hands on a woman.”


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...pect-ray-rice/
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Old 03-29-2014, 02:51 PM   #108
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There's a lot of these type of women in younger generations. Why waste your time with an abusive man when there are plenty that'll treat you like a queen. I wouldn't be surprised of both Mr & Mrs Ray Rice come from hostile homes.
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:06 PM   #109
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That's the 2nd really dumb life decision Ray Rice has made in the past few months.

Don't think his wife to be will ever forget about getting knocked out and dragged around in a casino.

She's going to knock out his finances and drag them around the first chance she gets.

There is no way she signed a prenuptial agreement after getting cavemanned like that.
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Old 03-30-2014, 02:13 AM   #110
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as his wife, she cannot be required to testify against him, even in a grand JURY INVESTIGATION.
iF he is convicted, he goes to jail and loses MILLIONS,
neither spouse wants that.
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Old 03-30-2014, 02:14 AM   #111
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The Ravens standing by this guy is a joke. Sucks they got to win another Superbowl. Talk about a team that deserves it the least.
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Old 03-30-2014, 02:53 AM   #112
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as his wife, she cannot be required to testify against him, even in a grand JURY INVESTIGATION.
iF he is convicted, he goes to jail and loses MILLIONS,
neither spouse wants that.
Educate yourself before you speak. That doesn't apply in New Jersey and casino video trumps that.
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Old 03-30-2014, 06:14 AM   #113
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There's a lot of these type of women in younger generations. Why waste your time with an abusive man when there are plenty that'll treat you like a queen. I wouldn't be surprised of both Mr & Mrs Ray Rice come from hostile homes.
She probably feels she can "change" him. Or that getting married will "change" things or both. She's in for a world of hurt.
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Old 03-30-2014, 06:58 AM   #114
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There's a lot of these type of women in younger generations. Why waste your time with an abusive man when there are plenty that'll treat you like a queen. I wouldn't be surprised of both Mr & Mrs Ray Rice come from hostile homes.
Now I ain't sayin she's a gold digger

But she ain't being dragged out of an elevator by a broke #&@#&#

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Old 03-30-2014, 08:48 AM   #115
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This is just sad. Legally it is brilliant, but sad.
He took advice from Terrell Suggs. He thumped on his woman then married her shortly after.
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Old 03-30-2014, 11:57 AM   #116
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She probably feels she can "change" him. Or that getting married will "change" things or both. She's in for a world of hurt.
Yeah I don't know what that's about. There are quite a few women out there who live in that world for whatever reason. I don't know if it is a female fantasy or there's some kind of thrill they get out of the idea of a man changing for them, but for whatever reason, there's quite a few women who not only believe their men will change for them, but look for men who they "can fix" and intentionally date broken men.

I actually think it could also be that both of them believe this type of behavior is normal. Like both came from households where the female in their home was abused by the male and so they unconsciously look for that because it's "normal."

I find it interesting that many children from dysfunctional and abusive homes grow up either to seek out and replicate that environment, or avoid relationships completely believing that's how all relationships have to be.
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Old 03-30-2014, 12:17 PM   #117
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Normally the marital privilege doesn't apply when one spouse is the victim of the allegations.
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What's worse? Growing up with an abusive father both physically and mentally or no father in the home.

just curious what your take is.
A father does not have to live in the home to be an involved and responsible parent. But a truly absent father vs an abusive father are both terrible situations. The latter is worse.
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Educate yourself before you speak. That doesn't apply in New Jersey and casino video trumps that.
say what?
regardless of the state she resides in or what state the event occurred in, a spouse cannot be FORCED to testify against their spouse.
where were you educated, hostility university?
enjoy a cup of reality, my friend.
NOW that they are married, even a GRAND JURY cannot demand testimony from her if she chooses to decline.

whether or not there is video in the elevator, is moot to the point that SHE can no longer be REQUIRED to testify before a grand jury.
reality... enjoy a cup !
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Normally the marital privilege doesn't apply when one spouse is the victim of the allegations.
Doesn't really matter though. If she chooses to not cooperate with the prosecution and the defense puts her on the stand and she says it was a misunderstanding, etc. etc. it will be a tough sell for any jury to convict (if it even gets that far).

I see plea bargain all over this.....
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Doesn't really matter though. If she chooses to not cooperate with the prosecution and the defense puts her on the stand and she says it was a misunderstanding, etc. etc. it will be a tough sell for any jury to convict (if it even gets that far).

I see plea bargain all over this.....
Well over 95% of cases don't go to trial, so the likelihood of this being a plea is high.
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What's worse? Growing up with an abusive father both physically and mentally or no father in the home.

just curious what your take is.
Why would you care what he thinks?
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Why would you care about what I think about what he thinks?
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The question is did he knock her out, drug her or was she so drunk she passed out?
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Well over 95% of cases don't go to trial, so the likelihood of this being a plea is high.
I hear ya. Plus when the victim recants it's very hard to convict regardless of the evidence and the prosecution knows that.
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