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View Poll Results: Pick the players you think are better options than Knowshon Moreno:
Ben Tate (Texans) 7 14.00%
Rashad Jennings (Raiders) 7 14.00%
Darren McFadden (Raiders) 7 14.00%
Andre Brown (Giants) 3 6.00%
Maurice Jones Drew (Jaguars) 13 26.00%
Rashard Mendenhall (Cardinals) 0 0%
Donald Brown (Colts) 3 6.00%
Ahmad Bradshaw (Colts) 0 0%
James Starks (Packers) 1 2.00%
LeGarrette Blount (Patriots) 3 6.00%
Anthony Dixon (49ers) 2 4.00%
Toby Gerhart (Vikings) 5 10.00%
La'Rod Stephens-Howling (Steelers) 0 0%
Jonathan Dwyer (Steelers) 0 0%
Bernard Scott (Ravens) 1 2.00%
Brian Leonard (Tampa Bay) 0 0%
Felix Jones (Steelers) 0 0%
Ronnie Brown (Chargers) 0 0%
(R) Ka'Deem Carey - Arizona 7 14.00%
(R) Carlos Hyde - Ohio St. 3 6.00%
(R) Tre Mason - Auburn 7 14.00%
(R) Bishp Sankey - Washington 1 2.00%
(R) Lache Seastrunk - Baylor 1 2.00%
(R) Jeremy Hill - LSU 3 6.00%
(R) Kapri Bibbs - Colo. St. 0 0%
(R) Marion Grice - Arz. St. 0 0%
(R) Charles Sims - W. Virg. 0 0%
(R) Andre Williams - Boston Coll. 4 8.00%
None - Knowshon Moreno is a better option than all of these 17 34.00%
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Old 02-04-2014, 09:45 PM   #26
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I'd have no problem with DMac coming in at a reasonable price. He's like another WR out of the backfield and he's got some speed.
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Old 02-04-2014, 11:58 PM   #27
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I'd have no problem with DMac coming in at a reasonable price. He's like another WR out of the backfield and he's got some speed.
I'm thinking he's one of the few people on that list that I'd want, but really, it's only based on reputation, not any actual productivity he's put up in the last three years. It would be hard to make the argument that he's a better back than Moreno right now. Right now in Raider-land, they talk about the guy as a bust.

All things considered, I'd rather have Jennings.

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need a back that can block. need a back that can catch. need a back that's physical. that's Moreno.
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Old 02-05-2014, 12:02 AM   #29
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need a back that can block. need a back that can catch. need a back that's physical. that's Moreno.
Rashad Jennings fits the bill...
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I think that's my answer. After poking around this question all night, I think the Rashad Jennings is the only back on that list that I'd feel like we'd actually made a potential upgrade over Moreno with.

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I think the real question is do you want to keep it Moreno/Ball or Ball/Hillman.... Because if they get rid of one, they're not going to get rid of the other.
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I'm a fan of Morenos but MJD and Ball/Hillman would be be a dynamic duo. Question is what MJD has in the tanks. I'd also be satisfied if we kept Moreno.
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I'll take MJD/Ball combo please.
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:13 AM   #33
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MJD will get healthy and win the Comeback Player of the Year Award on a new team.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:47 AM   #34
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i think Montee Ball is the upgrade. its not that i think we need an upgrade if we get rid of Moreno, i just dont see the value in paying him 4 million dollars.
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I'm having a hard time finding a more compelling story line this off season. I'm very interested to see what the Broncos do in this position. I'm torn on the question myself, which is why I'm very interested in other people's thoughts.

Nobody that is going to be cut is a better option than Moreno so far as I can tell.
Totally disagree. Moreno and Ball are the same guy, they might break into the second level but they do not have the speed to become a home run threat. That makes safeties able to play back because no matter where they are on the field they can run them down. We need an actual playmaker in the backfield who is a threat to actually take it the distance, which would help pull the safeties up, making the play action more effective. MJD is still a legit back, can do everything we need better than Moreno. Plus he has never won jack....he would most likely sign for cheap.

All in on the next couple years, ALL IN.
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Moreno and Ball are the same guy
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Hillman's not even that fast.
you don't think 4.42 in the 40 is fast. You got some high standards.
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lol, great rebuttal...that doesn't make them the same back
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I don't agree that they're the same back, but I also didn't see anything from Ball this year that would indicate to me he is a game changing back.
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I don't agree that they're the same back, but I also didn't see anything from Ball this year that would indicate to me he is a game changing back.
He progressed quite a bit as the year went on, broke quite a few tackles, improved as a blocker, and had some really nice runs.

If he's hit his ceiling, right now he's a nice back to have as part of a rotation. If he can continue to improve, he can be a weapon.
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I don't agree that they're the same back, but I also didn't see anything from Ball this year that would indicate to me he is a game changing back.
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lol, great rebuttal...that doesn't make them the same back
My rebuttal is based in fact, yours is just "nope" with absolutely no evidence of any sort, so please .. tell me how they are so different other than Moreno is a slightly better receiver and Ball has a little more power.
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I don't agree that they're the same back, but I also didn't see anything from Ball this year that would indicate to me he is a game changing back.
He improved a lot..But, he is not Lacy.
We need to sign Moreno..
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Ball is a "natural runner" You either have it or you don't. His vision far exceeds Morenos. He has the nuances of a true running back. Stutter steps, shoulder dips that get you an extra 4 yards, etc.

Generally speaking Moreno will get you what the play is blocked for.

They are not the same back.
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We don't really need a replacement. I'm perfectly fine with Ball as the primary back with CJ as the secondary option. Of all the guys on that list though I'd go for Gerhart. I think he's a very good runner, but he got drafted by the worst possible team. I still don't get why the Vikings drafted him to be honest.
I agree with this. Don't waste precious cap space on a big name (and old!) MJD or DMC. CJ showed a ton of promise everytime he touched the ball. Also, the thing to keep in mind is what we lose with Moreno leaving. Ball is clearly hte better bellcow back at this point. Where Moreno was really valuable was as a third down back because of his blocking and pass catching. I don't know about Gerhart's hands as a receiver but he seems like the kind of mauler that can keep #18 clean.
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Ball is a "natural runner" You either have it or you don't. His vision far exceeds Morenos. He has the nuances of a true running back. Stutter steps, shoulder dips that get you an extra 4 yards, etc.

Generally speaking Moreno will get you what the play is blocked for.

They are not the same back.
How are they not the same back. Ball has half the carries, half the yards; almost the same exact yds/att and half the TD's. If you extrapolate Ball's stats over the same number of carries they are almost identical. You can say that Ball has better vision, stutter steps, etc, but the proof is in the stats. There is nothing based in the stats nor the combine stats that indicates he is anything more than Moreno part II. Ball is not a game changing, factor back who will make defenses be HONEST in playing defense because he will not scare anyone.

Player Att Yds Yds/Att Long TD
Knowshon Moreno 241 1038 4.3 31 10
Montee Ball 120 559 4.7 45 4
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I don't agree that they're the same back, but I also didn't see anything from Ball this year that would indicate to me he is a game changing back.
I don't think we need a traditional game changing back with breakaway speed.

To me the much more important thing is staying on schedule. I like that Ball was turning 6 yard runs out of hits in the backfield where Moreno gains 1 or two. I want our starter to be able to grind out a 2nd and 3 regularly even when the D knows we're running. Manning provides the homerun ball.

I think the biggest loss with 27 leaving is his non-running contributions. I don't know Jennings much but based on how you describe his skillset above, that sounds like a good fit to me.
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Player Att Yds Yds/Att Long TD
Knowshon Moreno 241 1038 4.3 31 10
Montee Ball 120 559 4.7 45 4

That .4 YPC difference is significant. But again, why does everyone think we need a home run threat? Keeping the D honest by pulling the safeties up to open up the pass? Isn't that type of situational-only running the same thing that got us labelled as soft?

No, what we need is a smashmouth grinder that gets rushing first downs no matter how many defenders stack the box.
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