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Old 02-05-2014, 07:08 AM   #151
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that's because Del Rio is not worried about being a players coach....and unlike Fox he DOES NOT make excuses he owns it...I know Fox will be the HC next year but I don't believe he will have as much free rein as he did this year...
I think it might be true that Fox returns with limited coaching ability. I just hate that we have to keep this guy in a playpen.
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:55 AM   #152
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Lose a Super Bowl and everyone overreacts. Fox isn't going anywhere. Guy has done a great job getting rid of the McDouchebag fail. Calm the **** down people, it will be ok.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:08 AM   #153
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Lose a Super Bowl and everyone overreacts. Fox isn't going anywhere. Guy has done a great job getting rid of the McDouchebag fail. Calm the **** down people, it will be ok.
Agree. Half the starting defense and our all pro left tackle out and we made the super bowl.

We laid an egg, it's disappointing for sure. But keep it in perspective.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:09 AM   #154
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Elway understands the fans pain. Rest of them(including manning) are playing for money. they don't have any pride.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:13 AM   #155
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Another seattle player making a statement that our players gave up.

When it's a beatdown of that magnitude, an opposing teams HC saying " we felt we could beat the crud out of those guys " players saying the team just gave up. Our players saying seattle wanted it more. That's on the coaches mentality and atmosphere he brings to the team. Not too ****ing shabby is not good enough.

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that's what they said in North Carolina too
Not even close to a comparison. He didn't just lose a Super Bowl, he went 2-14 the final year. Not to mention he did a complete 180 on this sucky McDouche team and turned them into a respectable winner. Keep on reaching.
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Not even close to a comparison. He didn't just lose a Super Bowl, he went 2-14 the final year. Not to mention he did a complete 180 on this sucky McDouche team and turned them into a respectable winner. Keep on reaching.
Manning and Elway did that. You think Fox goes to the playoffs this year without manning? No way. They come in 3rd in AFC west and miss the playoffs this year without him.

Fox has no authority to bring in personnel so the McDaniel stink was swept clean by Elway and his scout teams, along with Sullivan and Russell.
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Manning and Elway did that. You think Fox goes to the playoffs this year without manning? No way. They come in 3rd in AFC west and miss the playoffs this year without him.
Clearly the coach have absolutely nothing to do with the team. They're just there to do pres-conferences and yell at players when things go bad.

Get out of here with that Manning and Elway bull****. Head coach has just as much to do with a team winning and losing as the players. If he didn't have anything to do with success of the team, then he has nothing to do with the failure either. Fire Manning and Elway, if you want to win a Super Bowl so badly. According to you they are the only ones that have anything to do with the team.

Oh, and lets not forget the Playoff win with Tebow. Clearly Manning did all that.

Get NO credit when he wins, get all the blame when he loses. Got it.

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Old 02-05-2014, 08:24 AM   #159
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I like Foxy. I really do.

But everyone giving him so much credit for where we are... it reminds me of that scene in Elf where Walter's team needs the best idea of their careers to save all their jobs and all they come up with is "We Bring in Miles Finch!"

Does anyone really believe Foxy's really responsible for the insane offensive output?

Totally against everything Foxy's built around. I guess you could give him credit for flexibility. But he's nothing like a driving force with this current team. He's along for the ride.

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Old 02-05-2014, 08:28 AM   #160
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Sounded like he wasn't playing around after the Seattle preseason game as well. I guess this time, he's REALLY not playing around.

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Old 02-05-2014, 08:30 AM   #161
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Another seattle player making a statement that our players gave up.

When it's a beatdown of that magnitude, an opposing teams HC saying " we felt we could beat the crud out of those guys " players saying the team just gave up. Our players saying seattle wanted it more. That's on the coaches mentality and atmosphere he brings to the team. Not too ****ing shabby is not good enough.
On radio today Vic Lombardi said one veteran player was "disgusted" with the teams attitude prior to and after the game. Laissez faire is the phrase he used.

This teams mental issues supersedes any positional/tactical issues
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:39 AM   #162
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Manning and Elway did that. You think Fox goes to the playoffs this year without manning? No way. They come in 3rd in AFC west and miss the playoffs this year without him.

Fox has no authority to bring in personnel so the McDaniel stink was swept clean by Elway and his scout teams, along with Sullivan and Russell.
It depends on where we spend all those millions tied up in Peyton. Fox had successful teams without Peyton, but together they are the #1 seed every year.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:42 AM   #163
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and this is not lost in Elways eyes either
If it is or isn't, it effectively doesn't matter.

Foxy's not going anywhere.

And in some ways Elway's in the same USS Manning boat Foxy is.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:44 AM   #164
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If it is or isn't, it effectively doesn't matter.

Foxy's not going anywhere.

And in some ways Elway's in the same USS Manning boat Foxy is.
"There is no plan B"

- Not too shabby
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:49 AM   #165
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On radio today Vic Lombardi said one veteran player was "disgusted" with the teams attitude prior to and after the game. Laissez faire is the phrase he used.

This teams mental issues supersedes any positional/tactical issues
I guarantee you it was Champ Bailey who said that.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:52 AM   #166
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I guarantee you it was Champ Bailey who said that.
Him or Paris Lenon since they are both about 43.
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The thing is, Manning and Fox don't complement each other well. Fox is obviously a nice guy and in the right situation, I suppose he could be a good fit for a team that had it's own fiery leadership on the field. But this is not that team.

Manning is the greatest technician of the QB craft but there is something to the idea that he's pouty, not fiery enough, not an ingame leader, etc. I'm not throwing him under the bus because he is our best player and our best shot for the foreseeable future. However, recognizing his limitations instead of sticking heads in the sand would be a good thing.

If Manning can't rally the troops in real time while facing adversity, someone else needs to be around to do that. He is not the firebrand motivator that Brady/Roethlisberger/Rodgers/Rivers are so the coaching staff needs to provide that since it's such an important factor in gameday adaptation.
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I disagree with that....did you not see the Texans game Peyton chewed them out and boom the rest is in the history books
I think the reason we didn't see that Sunday is because PFM was arguably the biggest effup on the field.
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So yet another player comes out reinforcing my point that Fox was just content on being there. The game was a formality to this team. DRC and Welker coming out with comments, and now a "veteran player".

But just getting to the Super Bowl was not too shabby. **** fox.
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well then if that's the cenus then I say Peyton needs to go somewhere else and win a super bowl and see where you get without him . Bet he wins before you do
I'm one of Mannings biggest supporters but I saw him struggle this game. It wasn't a classic Manning performance.
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well then if that's the cenus then I say Peyton needs to go somewhere else and win a super bowl and see where you get without him . Bet he wins before you do
Cenus? Sounds kinda dirty. Not sure if in a good or bad way.
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I'm one of Mannings biggest supporters but I saw him struggle this game. It wasn't a classic Manning performance.
It was a straw man argument anyway. You don't have to believe Manning should retire to acknowledge he had maybe the worst playoff performance of his career.
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I think the reason we didn't see that Sunday is because PFM was arguably the biggest effup on the field.
This. The whole team is dependent on Manning having a good to great game for the team to win. It is way too dependent on one guy.

That is as much Elway's responsibility as it is Fox's. Why isn't Elway taking any heat for this? He built this team.

...and Gase. Why is he getting a pass for this debacle? The highest scoring offense in NFL history laid the biggest egg ever in the SB, and I don't hear anyone ripping him.

Everyone ****ed up, people. Everyone!
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about as dirty as putting the soul blame on Peyton...
The entire team should be blamed for ripping out our souls.
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about as dirty as putting the soul blame on Peyton...
soul blame? No need to bring displays of penitence into it.

I didn't give him all the blame. Just said it's tough to give the "Come on guys, get your **** together" pep talk. after they just watched their opponents score 14 consecutive points off your own panic-fueled turnovers.
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