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Old 02-05-2014, 05:28 AM   #151
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How about a couple of dark-horse candidates.

A) Fire BOTH Fox and Del Rio. Both of them are re-treads anyway.

B) Promote Eric Studesville to Head Coach, and ask him to make Keith Burns Denver's new DC.

I thought Studesville did a great job as Interim Head Coach after McStalin was sent packing, and he seems to have a personality more like Pete Carroll and less like Shannyham or Fox or Del Rio.

And Keith Burns knows how to lay on the wood and give 100% on every single freakin' play!
Mr. Armchair, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Elway has been yelling as his voice was really hoarse. In fact, since he isn't a coach and just a GM he must of been yelling a lot. Anytime a GM yells that much its hard to see somebody not being fired or leaving. Fox is not empathetic in demeanor at all and Elway is. Something is up in Bronco land.

We would be crazy to let Del Rio walk and keep Fox. Del Rio is "that guy" in terms of firery head coach.
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:08 AM   #153
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Elway has been yelling as his voice was really hoarse. In fact, since he isn't a coach and just a GM he must of been yelling a lot. Anytime a GM yells that much its hard to see somebody not being fired or leaving. Fox is not empathetic in demeanor at all and Elway is. Something is up in Bronco land.

We would be crazy to let Del Rio walk and keep Fox. Del Rio is "that guy" in terms of firery head coach.
I think Del Rio's HC term this season showed a team less fiery than with John Fox. I dunno.
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:28 AM   #154
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Elway has been yelling as his voice was really hoarse. In fact, since he isn't a coach and just a GM he must of been yelling a lot. Anytime a GM yells that much its hard to see somebody not being fired or leaving. Fox is not empathetic in demeanor at all and Elway is. Something is up in Bronco land.

We would be crazy to let Del Rio walk and keep Fox. Del Rio is "that guy" in terms of firery head coach.
Or he has a cold
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Elway has been yelling as his voice was really hoarse. In fact, since he isn't a coach and just a GM he must of been yelling a lot. Anytime a GM yells that much its hard to see somebody not being fired or leaving. Fox is not empathetic in demeanor at all and Elway is. Something is up in Bronco land.

We would be crazy to let Del Rio walk and keep Fox. Del Rio is "that guy" in terms of firery head coach.
YES SIR..... I have been screaming the same thing...I posted yesterday that I am so sure of it that IF I was wrong and they didn't become world champions under Del Rios tenure this coming season that I would buy 20 posters season tickets.....
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Elway has been yelling as his voice was really hoarse. In fact, since he isn't a coach and just a GM he must of been yelling a lot. Anytime a GM yells that much its hard to see somebody not being fired or leaving. Fox is not empathetic in demeanor at all and Elway is. Something is up in Bronco land.

We would be crazy to let Del Rio walk and keep Fox. Del Rio is "that guy" in terms of firery head coach.
I just watched the press conference with Elway and Fox and Elway IS NOT PLAYING AROUND....tell ya what those 31 other NFL teams better watch out cause hearing the tone of Elway hell is coming for em with the devil in tow
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I think Del Rio's HC term this season showed a team less fiery than with John Fox. I dunno.
Well from my perspective I saw Del Rio chew out Danny T on the sideline and when he took over likely could not change the culture to his style.

But I will tell you that my family knows jack growing up and he and his family are firery for sure. He's quiet until you screw up and then he's all over it.

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Or he has a cold
No way man. That is from yelling. A cold won't make you that hoarse his voice was cracking.

You didn't think Elway was yelling after the game but he did in a preseason blowout?
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I just watched the press conference with Elway and Fox and Elway IS NOT PLAYING AROUND....tell ya what those 31 other NFL teams better watch out cause hearing the tone of Elway hell is coming for em with the devil in tow
Sounded like he wasn't playing around after the Seattle preseason game as well. I guess this time, he's REALLY not playing around.

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Well from my perspective I saw Del Rio chew out Danny T on the sideline and when he took over likely could not change the culture to his style.

But I will tell you that my family knows jack growing up and he and his family are firery for sure. He's quiet until you screw up and the he's all over it.
that's because Del Rio is not worried about being a players coach....and unlike Fox he DOES NOT make excuses he owns it...I know Fox will be the HC next year but I don't believe he will have as much free rein as he did this year...
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that's because Del Rio is not worried about being a players coach....and unlike Fox he DOES NOT make excuses he owns it...I know Fox will be the HC next year but I don't believe he will have as much free rein as he did this year...
I think it might be true that Fox returns with limited coaching ability. I just hate that we have to keep this guy in a playpen.
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I think it might be true that Fox returns with limited coaching ability. I just hate that we have to keep this guy in a playpen.
I thought about it for awhile after I watched the press conference and this is why I think Elway is going to keep him there limited coaching yes I agree with you. Elway talked about the window its a window both for Peyton and the organization to win the SB. he knows Peyton is the best shot that they have...with that said Elway wants the players coach to a degree the market on coaches right now well not much to choose from so Elway likes the results not all but some of the results he gets from Fox BUT HE KEPT STRESSING DEFENSE I FORESEE DEL RIO MOVING MORE TO THE FOREFRONT then Gase and Peyton doing more with the offense and Fox more like the cheerleader and Elway calling the shots in the headset on when to challenge and all that stuff
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Lose a Super Bowl and everyone overreacts. Fox isn't going anywhere. Guy has done a great job getting rid of the McDouchebag fail. Calm the **** down people, it will be ok.
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Lose a Super Bowl and everyone overreacts. Fox isn't going anywhere. Guy has done a great job getting rid of the McDouchebag fail. Calm the **** down people, it will be ok.
that's what they said in North Carolina too
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Lose a Super Bowl and everyone overreacts. Fox isn't going anywhere. Guy has done a great job getting rid of the McDouchebag fail. Calm the **** down people, it will be ok.
Agree. Half the starting defense and our all pro left tackle out and we made the super bowl.

We laid an egg, it's disappointing for sure. But keep it in perspective.
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Old 02-05-2014, 09:09 AM   #166
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Elway understands the fans pain. Rest of them(including manning) are playing for money. they don't have any pride.
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Another seattle player making a statement that our players gave up.

When it's a beatdown of that magnitude, an opposing teams HC saying " we felt we could beat the crud out of those guys " players saying the team just gave up. Our players saying seattle wanted it more. That's on the coaches mentality and atmosphere he brings to the team. Not too ****ing shabby is not good enough.

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Not even close to a comparison. He didn't just lose a Super Bowl, he went 2-14 the final year. Not to mention he did a complete 180 on this sucky McDouche team and turned them into a respectable winner. Keep on reaching.
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Not even close to a comparison. He didn't just lose a Super Bowl, he went 2-14 the final year. Not to mention he did a complete 180 on this sucky McDouche team and turned them into a respectable winner. Keep on reaching.
Manning and Elway did that. You think Fox goes to the playoffs this year without manning? No way. They come in 3rd in AFC west and miss the playoffs this year without him.

Fox has no authority to bring in personnel so the McDaniel stink was swept clean by Elway and his scout teams, along with Sullivan and Russell.
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Elway understands the fans pain. Rest of them(including manning) are playing for money. they don't have any pride.
you should get to know your quarterback....and listen to your GM... Peyton does not play for money...pride mmmm that's really to bad that you say that
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Not even close to a comparison. He didn't just lose a Super Bowl, he went 2-14 the final year. Not to mention he did a complete 180 on this sucky McDouche team and turned them into a respectable winner. Keep on reaching.
that was point to the post I was responding to
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Manning and Elway did that. You think Fox goes to the playoffs this year without manning? No way. They come in 3rd in AFC west and miss the playoffs this year without him.
Clearly the coach have absolutely nothing to do with the team. They're just there to do pres-conferences and yell at players when things go bad.

Get out of here with that Manning and Elway bull****. Head coach has just as much to do with a team winning and losing as the players. If he didn't have anything to do with success of the team, then he has nothing to do with the failure either. Fire Manning and Elway, if you want to win a Super Bowl so badly. According to you they are the only ones that have anything to do with the team.

Oh, and lets not forget the Playoff win with Tebow. Clearly Manning did all that.

Get NO credit when he wins, get all the blame when he loses. Got it.

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I like Foxy. I really do.

But everyone giving him so much credit for where we are... it reminds me of that scene in Elf where Walter's team needs the best idea of their careers to save all their jobs and all they come up with is "We Bring in Miles Finch!"

Does anyone really believe Foxy's really responsible for the insane offensive output?

Totally against everything Foxy's built around. I guess you could give him credit for flexibility. But he's nothing like a driving force with this current team. He's along for the ride.

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Another seattle player making a statement that our players gave up.

When it's a beatdown of that magnitude, an opposing teams HC saying " we felt we could beat the crud out of those guys " players saying the team just gave up. Our players saying seattle wanted it more. That's on the coaches mentality and atmosphere he brings to the team. Not too ****ing shabby is not good enough.
On radio today Vic Lombardi said one veteran player was "disgusted" with the teams attitude prior to and after the game. Laissez faire is the phrase he used.

This teams mental issues supersedes any positional/tactical issues
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