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Old 02-04-2014, 09:14 PM   #126
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How about a couple of dark-horse candidates.

A) Fire BOTH Fox and Del Rio. Both of them are re-treads anyway.

B) Promote Eric Studesville to Head Coach, and ask him to make Keith Burns Denver's new DC.

I thought Studesville did a great job as Interim Head Coach after McStalin was sent packing, and he seems to have a personality more like Pete Carroll and less like Shannyham or Fox or Del Rio.

And Keith Burns knows how to lay on the wood and give 100% on every single freakin' play!
Yeah great idea. Bring in the guy who was responsible for the worst special teams unit in the league this year to be your DC. You are such a special special kind of stupid.
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Old 02-04-2014, 09:17 PM   #127
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Yeah great idea. Bring in the guy who was responsible for the worst special teams unit in the league this year to be your DC. You are such a special special kind of stupid.
Hang on, that's an great plan.

Well, if you are a Seahawk fan and want to weaken the competition.
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Old 02-04-2014, 09:21 PM   #128
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Hang on, that's an great plan.

Well, if you are a Seahawk fan and want to weaken the competition.
But he always tackled hard on punt returns!!!!
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Old 02-04-2014, 09:36 PM   #129
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You will know before then. If they don't give Fox an extension this off-season it will be clear that Elway is not sold on Fox as the long-term solution. If they do give Fox an extension, it will become to clear, to me at least, that I was right about Elway when they hired him. I really hope that doesn't happen.
What exactly were you possibly right about in regards to Elway when the hired him? What specifically? Just so, you know, we have another one of your amazing takes really spelled out here for posterity.
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Old 02-04-2014, 09:46 PM   #130
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Would love to upgrade to a badass coach (frankly I think Fox deserves a disproportionate share of the blame) BUT...who would actually be an improvement?

I'm looking for specific names of coaches that could improve the team next year.
AGAIN...DAN QUINN...DC of the Seahawks!!
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Old 02-04-2014, 10:07 PM   #131
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What exactly were you possibly right about in regards to Elway when the hired him? What specifically? Just so, you know, we have another one of your amazing takes really spelled out here for posterity.
When we hired him I saw it as cronyism and did not think he had the qualifications. He's made the Broncos much better since taking the job so I recanted that. But if he extends that ****ing loser coach after this travesty of a Super Bowl I will be convinced that he just got lucky and that he really doesn't have a clue about building a championship team.
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Old 02-04-2014, 10:33 PM   #132
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Old 02-05-2014, 12:05 AM   #133
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Fox is fine, will get extended and the people who dislike him will continue to complain.
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Like it or not there's no way Elway is going to change HQ's while they're doing PFM's swan song. And I'm sure JDR would walk if he was passed over.

Maybe the best we could hope for is for Elway to start channeling a little dark lord himself.... Al Davis. i could see John in a jogging suit and matching golf cart glaring throughout the practices waving a cattle prod.
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:28 AM   #135
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i know this is a joke, but i would actually love it if the team hired him as a Strength and Conditioning coach or consultant in that area.

say what you want about the guy as a human being, but he was always extremely prepared to play, always in phenomenal conditioning, loves the game and knows his **** when it comes to strength and conditioning
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i know this is a joke, but i would actually love it if the team hired him as a Strength and Conditioning coach or consultant in that area.

say what you want about the guy as a human being, but he was always extremely prepared to play, always in phenomenal conditioning, loves the game and knows his **** when it comes to strength and conditioning
PEDS tend to do that. See seabuzzards
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i know this is a joke, but i would actually love it if the team hired him as a Strength and Conditioning coach or consultant in that area.

say what you want about the guy as a human being, but he was always extremely prepared to play, always in phenomenal conditioning, loves the game and knows his **** when it comes to strength and conditioning
Absolutely not. He is borderline psycho. Just because you are a fiery player means nothing. So was Mike Singletary and he is as simple as white paint.
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i know this is a joke, but i would actually love it if the team hired him as a Strength and Conditioning coach or consultant in that area.

say what you want about the guy as a human being, but he was always extremely prepared to play, always in phenomenal conditioning, loves the game and knows his **** when it comes to strength and conditioning
if we hire ****ing romo as a strength coach I'm pretty sure the league would just assign a piss test guy to camp in our locker room every day
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if we hire ****ing romo as a strength coach I'm pretty sure the league would just assign a piss test guy to camp in our locker room every day
Romo never once tested positive for anything banned by the league. he took supplements by the fistful without question, but he was vigilant in knowing what was in them and if or when the league banned a certain ingredient in those supplements he stopped using them.

he stayed ahead of what the league was mandating and was always in great shape without suffering numerous injuries like this team seems to have on an annual basis.

does no one else find it odd, that almost every season we are amongst the teams with the highest number of injuries? something in that aspect needs to be done. and considering that one of the only constants on the team is Greek, he should be the guy looking out for the axe.
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Elway acted like the defense was stellar. WTF over.

I agree with Fox on the D. I'm not a Fox homer but did anyone in this thread hear what Elway said? I agree with DRC, maybe johnny boy was livin it up to much to check on the team. Sure looked like he was coming off a week long bender
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Dan Reeves took us to three SBs before getting fired.
Not even a good comparison. A few years had passed by. Reeves put his ego in the way and tried to eject a HOF QB that had carried Reeves teams to the SB. Reeves lost his mind at the end - Tommy Maddox and was losing the team. We saw this repeat itself in a similar manner with Shanahan. Fortunately, Pat Bowlen recognized what was going on.
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A trade's not going to happen, but I'd PayPal bet $1000 that no NFL team would give up two 1st round draft picks for Von Miller right now. Maybe a dumpster fire team would give up two 2nds. Maybe a team would pony up a low 1st round pick, but I think a lot of Bronco fans are underestimating just how much his stock has dropped. And I'm as big a Von fan as you'll find on this board.
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A year ago at this time, I would have laughed at this particular conversation. Not now. I recognize what a game dominator Von is but there are thoughts in my head that if I could get significant value would I go for it. I just don't know where Von's head is. I would love to know what he has been doing/thinking watching his team go to the SB and him not contributing at all. I know the injury is the reason but it would still eat at a real competitor. Is Von a real competitor? Or is he a young, talented player who has made some poor decisions who is not focused.
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Elway acted like the defense was stellar. WTF over.

I agree with Fox on the D. I'm not a Fox homer but did anyone in this thread hear what Elway said? I agree with DRC, maybe johnny boy was livin it up to much to check on the team. Sure looked like he was coming off a week long bender
John didn't allude to that at all. He basically said they hung in there and gave the Broncos a chance to recover and get back into the game. Just listened to the presser. Didn't really pick up on the tension between Elway and Fox.

He obviously had cold/congestion issues.
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John didn't allude to that at all. He basically said they hung in there and gave the Broncos a chance to recover and get back into the game. Just listened to the presser. Didn't really pick up on the tension between Elway and Fox.

He obviously had cold/congestion issues.
Sometimes sarcasm is lost, sometimes not.

How would Fox know that his defense would be a complete whiff? Don't have to go over game film, just watch any sports outlet.

Elway acted like the defense kept the O in long enough to make a move, did he not? Dagnamit, I was coached to play the entire game. I think Elway was the dick. You win SB by keeping the opposing offense from scoring more than you, not by keeping them in the game.


If seebuzzards had beat us 10-8 (Elway seemed to be fine with that) then he could say PFM lost the game. I thought Elway was childish and maybe he needs to be reminded of his career, I think Fox done a fine job of that
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Sometimes sarcasm is lost, sometimes not.

How would Fox know that his defense would be a complete whiff? Don't have to go over game film, just watch any sports outlet.

Elway acted like the defense kept the O in long enough to make a move, did he not? Dagnamit, I was coached to play the entire game. I think Elway was the dick. You win SB by keeping the opposing offense from scoring more than you, not by keeping them in the game.


If seebuzzards had beat us 10-8 (Elway seemed to be fine with that) then he could say PFM lost the game. I thought Elway was childish and maybe he needs to be reminded of his career, I think Fox done a fine job of that
I think you are over reacting. In context, I agree with what Elway was trying to say. Offensively, it started out bad. The defense kept points off the board in the redzone early giving the offense a chance to right the ship when things looked terrible.

He knows as well as anyone that the Bronco defense was not going to win the Superbowl. We were going to have to put points on the board. The offense covered the weakness of the defense (with 5 significant injuries) all season long. If the offense didn't perform against the Seattle defense the game outcome was a foregone conclusion. Elway knew it.
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"Fox, tough year. You lost Von Miller to suspension and then ACL, lost Vickerson to a hip injury, Rahim Moor could have died, Clady to LF, Champ to LF who is also old, Harris tore his ACL, oh and Wolfe started having seizuers. And you! You nearly died on us and had to have open heart surgury. But the last straw was getting us to the Super Bowl and losing so badly. I mean, it started bad, then it looked like you were missing key players everywhere. You clearly need to go."

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I agree, Dwight, people around here are idiotic MOST of the time. Elway should cut Manning too!!
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Not even a good comparison. A few years had passed by. Reeves put his ego in the way and tried to eject a HOF QB that had carried Reeves teams to the SB. Reeves lost his mind at the end - Tommy Maddox and was losing the team. We saw this repeat itself in a similar manner with Shanahan. Fortunately, Pat Bowlen recognized what was going on.
Denve rlost the AFC Champiosnhip game to Buffalo in 1991. Reeves was fired in 1992.

Denver losing SBs had nothing to do with Bowlen firing him. Reeves wanting to trade Elway for a first round draf pick and Mark Rypien is why he was fired.
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Sometimes sarcasm is lost, sometimes not.

How would Fox know that his defense would be a complete whiff? Don't have to go over game film, just watch any sports outlet.

Elway acted like the defense kept the O in long enough to make a move, did he not? Dagnamit, I was coached to play the entire game. I think Elway was the dick. You win SB by keeping the opposing offense from scoring more than you, not by keeping them in the game.


If seebuzzards had beat us 10-8 (Elway seemed to be fine with that) then he could say PFM lost the game. I thought Elway was childish and maybe he needs to be reminded of his career, I think Fox done a fine job of that
I have to disagree.

Seattle would've scored in the 60's if not for those early defensive stops.

Sure, maybe if the soon to be former Bronco Robert Ayers keeps contain on Wilson on Seattle's first couple drives, they force punts instead of FG's, but the offense totally imploding is what lost the Super Bowl.

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The Seattle Defense outscored the Denver offense. End of story on where the blame lies


Once the game was over after the first play of the 2nd half, the def checked out
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