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Old 02-04-2014, 02:32 PM   #1
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the suit takes it harder than the coach

John Fox's days are numbered in this town
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Old 02-04-2014, 02:33 PM   #2
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Maybe from a fan viewpoint but he's going nowhere under Bowlen and Elway unless health gets the better of him.
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Fox's answer for something that he could have done differently from play calling perspective was atrocious. He danced around the question, then borrowed a line that Elway had used previously without actually giving an answer to the legitimate and fair question. Elway did not looked pleased. I agree, his days are numbered. He's a players coach, one they want to play hard for, but John Fox does not give us a competitive advantage.
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Maybe from a fan viewpoint but he's going nowhere under Bowlen and Elway unless health gets the better of him.
We will see how next season plays out. I'm not buying this.
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Maybe from a fan viewpoint but he's going nowhere under Bowlen and Elway unless health gets the better of him.
If Elway gives him an extension after what just happened that will tell us a lot about his real expectations and goals. I won't ever believe the "our goal is to win championships" line again.
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We will see how next season plays out. I'm not buying this.
You will know before then. If they don't give Fox an extension this off-season it will be clear that Elway is not sold on Fox as the long-term solution. If they do give Fox an extension, it will become to clear, to me at least, that I was right about Elway when they hired him. I really hope that doesn't happen.
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I'd like to believe it, but I think you guys are reading between the lines a little too much.
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If Elway gives him an extension after what just happened that will tell us a lot about his real expectations and goals. I won't ever believe the "our goal is to win championships" line again.
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"Fox, tough year. You lost Von Miller to suspension and then ACL, lost Vickerson to a hip injury, Rahim Moor could have died, Clady to LF, Champ to LF who is also old, Harris tore his ACL, oh and Wolfe started having seizuers. And you! You nearly died on us and had to have open heart surgury. But the last straw was getting us to the Super Bowl and losing so badly. I mean, it started bad, then it looked like you were missing key players everywhere. You clearly need to go."

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Dmac reporting there appeared to be some tension between the two in the press conference. Hard to argue. Not to kick dirt on Fox here, but what has he done in Denver? I'd give him credit for year 1, but that was all Tebow and Allen. When Fox had Orton in the game, we were 1-4. In year 2, Elway got Manning signed. Not Fox. ELWAY. The team rolled to the #1 seed and the team blew it in round 1 up 7 on a hail mary. In year 2, Denver overcomes to do the same the following year and the team looks epicly overmatched in the super bowl as we get smoked.

The team needs a difference maker on the sideline, don't have one.
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"Fox, tough year. You lost Von Miller to suspension and then ACL, lost Vickerson to a hip injury, Rahim Moor could have died, Clady to LF, Champ to LF who is also old, Harris tore his ACL, oh and Wolfe started having seizuers. And you! You nearly died on us and had to have open heart surgury. But the last straw was getting us to the Super Bowl and losing so badly. I mean, it started bad, then it looked like you were missing key players everywhere. You clearly need to go."

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Would love to upgrade to a badass coach (frankly I think Fox deserves a disproportionate share of the blame) BUT...who would actually be an improvement?

I'm looking for specific names of coaches that could improve the team next year.
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Dmac reporting there appeared to be some tension between the two in the press conference. Hard to argue. Not to kick dirt on Fox here, but what has he done in Denver? I'd give him credit for year 1, but that was all Tebow and Allen. When Fox had Orton in the game, we were 1-4. In year 2, Elway got Manning signed. Not Fox. ELWAY. The team rolled to the #1 seed and the team blew it in round 1 up 7 on a hail mary. In year 2, Denver overcomes to do the same the following year and the team looks epicly overmatched in the super bowl as we get smoked.

The team needs a difference maker on the sideline, don't have one.
Fox has done nothing other than ride the coattails of the greatest regular season quarterback of all-time to division titles. And anyone who give him credit for the Tebow season is an idiot. He wanted to stick with Orton.
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Would love to upgrade to a badass coach (frankly I think Fox deserves a disproportionate share of the blame) BUT...who would actually be an improvement?

I'm looking for specific names of coaches that could improve the team next year.
Dan Quinn would make a lot of sense honestly, but there are never any guarantees with first time head coach hires. If you want guarantees you are **** out of luck when it comes to football.
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Fox has done nothing other than ride the coattails of the greatest regular season quarterback of all-time to division titles. And anyone who give him credit for the Tebow season is an idiot. He wanted to stick with Orton.
I'd hardly call Delhomme the greatest regular season QB of all time.
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I'd hardly call Delhomme the greatest regular season QB of all time.
That was ten years ago on a different team. How exactly is it relevant?
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You will know before then. If they don't give Fox an extension this off-season it will be clear that Elway is not sold on Fox as the long-term solution. If they do give Fox an extension, it will become to clear, to me at least, that I was right about Elway when they hired him. I really hope that doesn't happen.
He will get an extension. It doesn't mean because of it Fox is a lifer Bronco coach.
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That was ten years ago on a different team. How exactly is it relevant?
You said "all he accomplished..."

He took a Delhomme led team to two NFC Championship games and a Superbowl. That tells me he is capable of accomplishing things with a somewhat crappy QB.

He still needs to win one, and I am pissed with the latest effort, and especially the "not too shabby" comment, but let's not act like he's Mr. MaGoo just blindly stumbling into great situations. He's played his part in the team's successes, as well as failures.
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He will get an extension. It doesn't mean because of it Fox is a lifer Bronco coach.
It means that they plan to keep him around for more than one more season, and likely more than that. Firing coaches on the front end of contracts is very costly.
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John Fox looks like Bill Clinton. We need an upgrade.
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It means that they plan to keep him around for more than one more season, and likely more than that. Firing coaches on the front end of contracts is very costly.
Costly? So what. The Denver Broncos have fired coaches before.

While you may not like it, Fox will get an extension.
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"Fox, tough year. You lost Von Miller to suspension and then ACL, lost Vickerson to a hip injury, Rahim Moor could have died, Clady to LF, Champ to LF who is also old, Harris tore his ACL, oh and Wolfe started having seizuers. And you! You nearly died on us and had to have open heart surgury. But the last straw was getting us to the Super Bowl and losing so badly. I mean, it started bad, then it looked like you were missing key players everywhere. You clearly need to go."

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JFE will do the right thing regarding fox and everything else that isn't names Brock.
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can he play the sax ?
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Imagine if Shanahan agreed to come back under Elway as GM? That would be an odd arrangement.








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Dmac reporting there appeared to be some tension between the two in the press conference. Hard to argue. Not to kick dirt on Fox here, but what has he done in Denver? I'd give him credit for year 1, but that was all Tebow and Allen. When Fox had Orton in the game, we were 1-4. In year 2, Elway got Manning signed. Not Fox. ELWAY. The team rolled to the #1 seed and the team blew it in round 1 up 7 on a hail mary. In year 2, Denver overcomes to do the same the following year and the team looks epicly overmatched in the super bowl as we get smoked.

The team needs a difference maker on the sideline, don't have one.
who do you recommend to replace Fox?
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